Laikrob Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Hi all, Following the feedback we received in the Conclave, we are looking at the possibility to change the points system. This will only happen if we can find a system which will reflect both the strength of a clan and activity in a better way than the present one does, and that is relatively simple to manage. When/if a new system is in place it would be necessary to restart the points to zero for all clans. As clan staff we feel this is worth it if we can make a better points model. The following are suggestions we have come up with: Suggestion 1: Include a bonus % for pvp and/or full out wars:100 points + (any % bonuses for PVP or full out) + Ending for winning.The loser would get 50 points and the same bonuses (just not the ending). Reasoning: Encourages clans to have full outs and/or do PVP while not penalizing them for not doing it.Balancing strength and activityAdapted to CWA, full outs, PVP, matched etc... Makes full outs more attractive So theoretically it could be 100 + 30% (10% for full out and 20% for PVP) + Ending. The loser would get 50 points and the same bonuses (just not the ending). [hide=Example:]Suppose a war occurs with clan A having 50 people, clan B having 45. Clan A wins with 30 people left. Full out:Points given in a pvp or cwa, would be:Pvp war points: Winner gets 100 + 30 + 30 = 160Loser = 65 CWA war pointsWinner gets 100 + 10 + 30 = 140Loser = 55 For matched ops fightsMatched ops fight example: 20 v 20. Winner has 6 left. CWAWinner gets 100 + 6 = 106Loser = 50 PVP Winner gets 100 + 20 + 6 = 126Loser 70[/hide] Suggestion 2: Points given based on pull and rank. Full out fights100 + your ending + double the difference in ranks if the clan is higher ranked30 pts if you lose Capped Fights60 + your ending 20 if you lose Reasoning:Strength, bigger reward for taking down stronger clansRewards performance more heavily by incorporating ending into points awardedNo bonus for rank difference in a matched fight because the number factor difficulty is nonexistantTop clans don't get rank bonuses because... they're already top. They have proven they are the bestMemberlist factor removed, as cmb level is not an indication of a large or skilled clanDefault points still awarded to reward and incite activity, but significantly lowered Suggestion 3: 100 for winning + 50 for Warring + Ending(Half of the opts goes towards the point aswell if in PvP) Reasoning: Simple to manage and understandEasy to calculate for clansPvP bonus Like the previous suggestion, no ML or rank difference includedHigh default points to encourage activity (can be adjusted, please give feedback here) Suggestion 4 : Leave it as it isIncluded in this would also be the halving of points for wars with 10 or less pull (as mentioned in the other rule change topic) - this number is arbitary, we can make it up to 15 ... Again, feel free to discuss. :) Please give your ideas on these suggestions and improvements you think could be made. The least thing we want is a convoluted points system that no one can understand.Also note that this is a public poll where everyone can see what you voted. As the poll mentions, this poll will only be open for 2 days. Laikrob,on behalf of the Clan Staff You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Voted for option one. I've always been a proponent of bonuses for pvp wars and full outs, so I'm glad to see this is now on the table. The one thing that does make me hesitate though is the size of the bonus - I think 30% is reasonable but that number should be open to change in the future. The key here is to provide an incentive to clans who can pvp /full out without seriously hurting the chances of those who don't want to or can't. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentry_Wolf Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I like the 3rd suggestion. It's simple and easy to understand. Option one would get my second vote though. Seems nice, but for the sake of simplicity for this type of thing and not over-complicating anything - 3rd option gets my vote in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Think your vote through carefully guys, you don't want to regret your vote. :P With love to one, friendship to many, and good will to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimingo Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I like option two because it makes people leap higher in TWR rankings and get better clans/teams to war, eventually improving their performance. Option one is also good :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaer Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Suggestion #1 -- anything to get TWR clans into more PvP :thumbup: Plus, I think it might get more clans to join the TWR.. [2010] Proud Member of Downfall[2004-2005] Former Leader of The Unbreakables, Former Member of Corruption, Former Member of 'The' Clan(...and Anarchy for a few weeks... shhh...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Points system is fine as it is. Genesis LeaderEnding Templar & Trial Caller of The RisingEx-Leader of Silent Ember - Ex-Leader of True Ownage - Ex-Leader of LegendzFormer Tip.It Clan Community Leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzyy Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Suggestion 1. Bonuses for PvP is a good idea. Team Flip Flops Retired - New Destiny Officer Ex - Member of The Titans Ex - FA Manager of Tempted Killers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krist115 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 1st 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vannaka1992 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Sure a few clans on Tip.It do PVP, but alot others just suggest it to follow trend I think. I don't think changing the system will get some clans encouraged to do PVP Wars more. Voted for Suggestion 3, cause it has the least to do with Ending Options and more about Effort. But it's also fine as it is Too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I voted for number 1 because yes I believe that there should be bonuses for those doing full outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Gdheart Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Option #1 seems good, that's what my vote goes to. Warlord of Runescape ElitesEx Shadow-Elf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumkinpie37 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 other-challenging cr to a uncapped saturday pkri all styles should give the declaring clan 10k points. if they win they get 200k points. just kidding :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelKiller Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 #1 nuff said Elite Member of Ascension | Senior Member of Silent Ember | Old School of TPRAscension's Forums | #Rs-Ascension | Ascension's Memberlist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuru72 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Suggestion 1. In order to influence cwa clans to step into pvp, you have to give them a reason to. The number of twr clans actually stepping into pvp cause of this might not be large but it's better than just sitting down there and not trying at all. Retired on: June 30, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abkb24 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 option #1 cuz clans are scared to go in pvp so if they do u should reward them with extra points for actually stepping in pvp. |PRIDE|DEDICATION|HONOR| |PRIDE|PASSION|BELIEF|:::Violent Resolution:::If you dont like my posts , Deal with it Lol Eos , Keep begging :D http://imgur.com/gsvgD.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianishere Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Suggestion 1 and 2 both are good. Voted for one of the two :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XpLiCiT_ Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 suggestion 1 ftw :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter_00777 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I voted for the first suggestion, it seems I was absent while discussing these suggestions but I'm more than happy with the outcome! :thumbup: 12,079 Profile views. Get on my level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_T Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Points system is fine as it is.This. M on my Chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeeeeee Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 its between option 1 and keeping it the same... overall i decide to reward full outs/pvp cause it hopefully will motivate people to get more active in pvp etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_TeamDan Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Seeing as im not a participant of TWR I won't vote, but I'm glad some stuff is happening regardless of the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthorm Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 I hope we are not suffering from the Alvin Green effect :P [Guild Wars 2-In game screenshot, the MMORPG you are waiting for. Click for thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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