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Jagex's new bot punishment: Level resetting


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This isn't doing anything to botting. Everyone just has to come to the reality that botting will always exist and that bots outway the true number of legit players. There has been a drastic increase of botters because this game is truley becoming duller everyday and no one wants to grind out levels.


This. If Jagex was serious about botting they would limit the grinding in the game as much as possible. Obviously, the subscription money means more to them.
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A random person came into my friend's clanchat yesterday saying his WC had been lowered to 89 and that he still had a WC skillcape (that apparently he couldn't equip)
I asked him to post proof on tip.it and he asked if he had to sign up here or not, but in the end he didn't.

I logged off soon after that and I didn't believe him at the time, but now I've seen this I'm not sure.
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i think this is a glitch not a punishment.

if it is a punishment, then i dont really see any gain on jagex's behalf.
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*Bots so he can have turmoil at 1 def*

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in all seriousness, i don't see this as a decent punishment, especially if you do the skill for money.
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*Bots so he can have turmoil at 1 def*

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in all seriousness, i don't see this as a decent punishment, especially if you do the skill for money.

Yeah, they should also remove the money gained from botting. >_> If someone botted red chins to 99 Hunter and got their level(s) reset, but still had the ~30M or whatever they probably wouldn't care.ยจ

EDIT: I will get seriously ****** if they reset my levels because I play way too many hours a day :blink:
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Logically, stat reduction happens through banning anyway. Perm banning is essentially the same as reducing all skills back to level 1. The account in question has only had a few levels taken off them. This is quite obviously a lesser punishment, and it also begs the question as to what happens with non-skiller bots; PC bots, green dragon bots etc

Personally, I wish they'd just go back to perm banning them on the first offence. It's nice and simple.

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This isn't doing anything to botting. Everyone just has to come to the reality that botting will always exist and that bots outway the true number of legit players. There has been a drastic increase of botters because this game is truley becoming duller everyday and no one wants to grind out levels.


This. If Jagex was serious about botting they would limit the grinding in the game as much as possible. Obviously, the subscription money means more to them.

You probably didn't notice, but Jagex released a new skill about 6 months ago that is nearly impossible to bot and much less of a grind than your average skill. I'd like to see more stuff like this.

In addition, distractions and diversions are all quick tasks to take some time away from simply doing the same skill over and over, and although it may be frustrating running from place to place, it's something different.
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Adventure log is probably bugged and displaying someone elses info or not updated his own info properly. I mean seriously how many times has this happened to everyone? Its very common I see someone elses info in the past. I know I didnt get 54 slayer last month because I have had it like years.. Nor have I gained 99 rc last week because I only got 96. I havnt noticed any bugs in a long time but that dont mean it hasnt happened or that logs could be old info despite the dates so its not reliable. (Even if its displaying it live now it could be an old bugged recording being displayed.)

Then there no real proof and it wouldnt make any practical sense to do it. Thats not to say they havnt done this.. Just I havnt seen any evidence of it yet.
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This isn't doing anything to botting. Everyone just has to come to the reality that botting will always exist and that bots outway the true number of legit players. There has been a drastic increase of botters because this game is truley becoming duller everyday and no one wants to grind out levels.


This. If Jagex was serious about botting they would limit the grinding in the game as much as possible. Obviously, the subscription money means more to them.

You probably didn't notice, but Jagex released a new skill about 6 months ago that is nearly impossible to bot and much less of a grind than your average skill. I'd like to see more stuff like this.

In addition, distractions and diversions are all quick tasks to take some time away from simply doing the same skill over and over, and although it may be frustrating running from place to place, it's something different.


True and true, unfortunately this doesn't hold true for the other 20 skills in the game.
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Dungeoneering relies on all of your other skills to be on the same level as each other, so while botting can't actually do the footwork for you at that point, all the grinding necessary before that which hasn't gone away and probably never will can be attended to by automation.

In a way the demand for it has increased since dungeoneering is basically the "reward" for slaving over a hot chinchompa patch all day, so people feel even more inadequate and are more eager to find shortcuts to the prize.

Jagex really just wants to avoid turning off those who did do the dull stuff fair and square, so this is stopping them from just pitching the whole grind system out in favor of increasing the exp gains of actions performed in dungeoneering.

In the meanwhile we all have to suffer for the ghosts of the past, and really while the situation is unfortunate I find it hard not to point fingers at those who wish to preserve their fleeting superiority by holding everybody else back in the stone age

Although I do have to chuckle a bit at how they are chipping away at the face of the old school bit by bit, even if it will take forever to change people's minds

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Provided they still ban alongside this, I'm alright with it.


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Bots get a perm bann... so why would they change their stats anyway? :mellow:

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Bots get a perm bann... so why would they change their stats anyway? :mellow:

No they don't. I've known a few people to bot 99 magic and get off with a 3 day ban. It's maddeningly stupid. Even more outrageous is the fact that J mods will outright deny this to our face, even though we know for a FACT that not everyone punished for macroing is perm banned.
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Dw lol it's just a glitch.

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Hmm...

"all accounts associated with this have been permanently banned."
Not true. Searching 'reset' on the RSOF returns plenty of threads where the OP hasn't been banned.
IDK whether to trust Poppy or Matt >_>
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Hmm...

"all accounts associated with this have been permanently banned."
Not true. Searching 'reset' on the RSOF returns plenty of threads where the OP hasn't been banned.
IDK whether to trust Poppy or Matt >_>


Those Jmod posts are almost a month old

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Hmm...

"all accounts associated with this have been permanently banned."
Not true. Searching 'reset' on the RSOF returns plenty of threads where the OP hasn't been banned.
IDK whether to trust Poppy or Matt >_>


Those Jmod posts are almost a month old

Oho. Didn't notice that. =D> Guess they're fake then.
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IDK whether to trust Poppy or Matt >_>

Why choose when they both say the same thing? But if they'd have different opinions, obviously Matt would be the guy who knows more. Poppy is just in the community management.


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Maybe they are using it as a second test for macro users? Reset the level by x amount, if the account carries on training it again without stopping or noticing, chances are it is a bot leading to a ban?
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