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The rules changed from:

 

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The Old Rules on Real-World Trading

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What is real-world trading ?

 

Real-world trading is the term used for the real-world purchase of services with the intention of advancing your Jagex character. This includes, but is not limited to: purchasing gold or items in Runescape, buying a Runescape account as well as paying someone to increase your account** experience(XP) in a skill or for them to complete quests and activates on your behalf.

 

 

Why do we have this rule ?

 

We have this rule for two reasons:

 

1. We dont want players to be able to buy their way to success in Runescape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues Runescape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldnt affect your ability to be successful in Runescape.

 

2. Often when players sell items in Runescape for real cash, the items are actually stolen. When a player purchases a Runescape account, there is a high probability that the account may have been stolen. Stolen accounts will always be returned to the original owner.

 

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The New Rules on Real-World trading

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What is real-world trading?

 

Real-world trading is the term used for activities which occur outside of the game environment which result in the real-world sale or purchase of items, gp or services with the intention of supplying or advancing a Jagex in-game character other than by the means which are incorporated into the game.

This includes, but is not limited to: purchasing gold or items for RuneScape on 3rd party websites, buying a RuneScape account on 3rd party websites, paying someone to increase your account's experience (XP) and paying someone to complete quests and activities on your behalf.

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Why do we have this rule?

 

 

 

 

Nobody has our permission to sell RuneScape accounts or any RuneScape related virtual in-game item. All RuneScape accounts and virtual items are the property of Jagex Ltd and players are only granted a limited, revocable permission to use accounts and virtual items.

 

The activities of people obtaining items with the intent of selling them, often involves cheating practices such as using macro scripts (botting).

When a player purchases an existing RuneScape account, there is a high probability that the account may have been stolen. Stolen accounts will always be returned to the original owner.

 

For another player to use your game character they will require access to your account. This means your security becomes compromised and the account as well as the virtual items on the account, are then likely to be sold on to a third party.

 

When items in RuneScape are not supplied by Jagex Ltd., the items are often taken from the stolen accounts of innocent players.

Any attempt to real world trade is a serious breach of a players agreement with Jagex. Jagex does not recognise any attempted transfer of accounts or virtual items outside of the game environment.

 

Well, for me, the most unreliable RWTer out there is Jagex themselves, by most players, their way of RWTing is even called gambling isn't it?

But ok, maybe it's just me ;), last time I checked over 20% of the players liked 2012 the most of all years ever.

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We dont want players to be able to buy their way to success in Runescape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues Runescape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldnt affect your ability to be successful in Runescape.

That is was actually gone. I figured I was just looking on the wrong page. Thank you for confirming that for me! :).

 

Something to keep in mind, if this thread is to continue... There are two different types or RWT. There is the now legal RWT (Buying things in-game from Jagex - Mod Mat K even calls it this in HLF) and buying from other companies. Keep in mind that encouraging or accusing anyone of the second one will be removed.

 

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The rule was just outdated for quite some time. For Jagex RWT always was that what they say now. But the first point of "why we have this rule" was something they always said when people asked about micro transactions. That probably changed when the investors took over.

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I just want them to remove medium and small lamps from the SoF. Well rather have them move it all together, but that's the best compromise I can think of.

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I just want them to remove medium and small lamps from the SoF. Well rather have them move it all together, but that's the best compromise I can think of.

 

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Oh, and Jagex aren't actually able to sell rsgp or tradable items, as that would set a real world price on gp, which then makes SoF gambling.

Expect to see exp-boosting items and untradable gear however.

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TBH read the TIF times article on who virtual goods belong to. They actually DO NOT belong to Jagex.

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The rule was just outdated for quite some time. For Jagex RWT always was that what they say now. But the first point of "why we have this rule" was something they always said when people asked about micro transactions. That probably changed when the investors took over.

And yet, they only changed the rules found on their pages when people had thrown their own definition in their faces numerous times...

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They have been hypocritcs or become that because of investors.

I hope this makes more people do "illegal" RWT because i don't like "the rule applies only to players" crap.

 

Jagex is not always clear about things. If RWT rule applied to players only then it would have said so CLEARLY in beginning, but it didn't.

So they are just defending the critism they have received. And if they get ddos attacked i will be very happy because that's what money greedy scums deserv.

 

Let me elaborate my thoughts on "The rule applies to players only":

If JAgex decides they wanna sell 10K EXP lamps, or Bandos tasset, ARmadyl, or a Party hat...

 

They can then tell you player, no matter how DEVOTED and LOYAL you are, "The rule applies only to players". There is no defending a company that has said "We will nto do microtransaction".

Their defence against Squeal being GAMBLING "You always win something", what? 50 coins? Cabbage? A brone dagger? Wow what a win!

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I don't see fit as they're a RWT'er. If it's their game, they do hold sole right to make any type of monetary gain from it. This term can only be directly expressed toward any outsiders, as recently updated, that have intentions to gain money off a Jagex product.

 

As in terms of Gambling, Squeal of Fortune is no where near anything that can be judged as gambling. When you're playing it, you NEVER receive nothing in return. Seeing as you're rewarded something for your efforts, it ultimately serves as a prize. If you were to legitimately gamble, you're up against the odds of losing whatever you were staking. Just because you're given something that doesn't have some sort of interesting/valuable sense to it, doesn't mean you lose. It is strictly set at probability, you can't rig it so that you're always going to lose, and you can't set it to where you're always going to win.

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Honestly people are overreacting about this. How many people do you know are dropping a lot of money for SoF spins? It's cheaper to buy a powerleveling corporation to level for you. Not much changes.

 

Of course this opens the gates for other buyable things, but I don't see that happening while the player base is this vocal and influential.

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I don't see fit as they're a RWT'er. If it's their game, they do hold sole right to make any type of monetary gain from it. This term can only be directly expressed toward any outsiders, as recently updated, that have intentions to gain money off a Jagex product.

 

As in terms of Gambling, Squeal of Fortune is no where near anything that can be judged as gambling. When you're playing it, you NEVER receive nothing in return. Seeing as you're rewarded something for your efforts, it ultimately serves as a prize. If you were to legitimately gamble, you're up against the odds of losing whatever you were staking. Just because you're given something that doesn't have some sort of interesting/valuable sense to it, doesn't mean you lose. It is strictly set at probability, you can't rig it so that you're always going to lose, and you can't set it to where you're always going to win.

Ok, so thats an opinion, but legal precedent says otherwise.

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I don't see fit as they're a RWT'er. If it's their game, they do hold sole right to make any type of monetary gain from it. This term can only be directly expressed toward any outsiders, as recently updated, that have intentions to gain money off a Jagex product.

 

As in terms of Gambling, Squeal of Fortune is no where near anything that can be judged as gambling. When you're playing it, you NEVER receive nothing in return. Seeing as you're rewarded something for your efforts, it ultimately serves as a prize. If you were to legitimately gamble, you're up against the odds of losing whatever you were staking. Just because you're given something that doesn't have some sort of interesting/valuable sense to it, doesn't mean you lose. It is strictly set at probability, you can't rig it so that you're always going to lose, and you can't set it to where you're always going to win.

 

Right, so casinos could just give me 1 pence everytime I lose and it wouldn't count as gambling? Rejoice, now all those casinos can rip off 13-year olds too! Yeah?... NO.

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Of course this opens the gates for other buyable things, but I don't see that happening while the player base is this vocal and influential.

 

Ha! That's where you're wrong. This is only a taste of what is yet to come.

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Of course this opens the gates for other buyable things, but I don't see that happening while the player base is this vocal and influential.

 

Ha! That's where you're wrong. This is only a taste of what is yet to come.

 

Vocal? Influental? The playerbase can scream all it wants, nothing is going to change unless a big enough number quits, and since everyone believes it's not going to change anything anyway and puts his personal enjoyment over the development of the game (Which is not wrong, I'm not judging this), the only possible way for that to happen would be a drastic 180° turn for the whole game.

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I'm more worried about the line in the new rule that states

 

This includes, but is not limited to: purchasing gold or items for RuneScape on 3rd party websites, buying a RuneScape account on 3rd party websites, paying someone to increase your account's experience (XP) and paying someone to complete quests and activities on your behalf.

This makes it sound like soon Jagex will be selling not only gold and items via SOF, but also accounts.

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I'm more worried about the line in the new rule that states

 

This includes, but is not limited to: purchasing gold or items for RuneScape on 3rd party websites, buying a RuneScape account on 3rd party websites, paying someone to increase your account's experience (XP) and paying someone to complete quests and activities on your behalf.

This makes it sound like soon Jagex will be selling not only gold and items via SOF, but also accounts.

 

I think they just took the old rules and added "on 3rd party websites" everywhere. Doesn't have to mean anything. Not that I would put it past Jagex though...

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The great part of predicting slippery slopes is that you have an infinite amount of time to be proven correct, and can never be proven wrong.

 

"It hasn't happened."

"But it might."

"It's been a few years now."

"But it still might."

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The great part of predicting slippery slopes is that you have an infinite amount of time to be proven correct, and can never be proven wrong.

 

"It hasn't happened."

"But it might."

"It's been a few years now."

"But it still might."

 

My favorite is when someone says something's not ever going to happen, but it does.

 

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I'm more worried about the line in the new rule that states

 

This includes, but is not limited to: purchasing gold or items for RuneScape on 3rd party websites, buying a RuneScape account on 3rd party websites, paying someone to increase your account's experience (XP) and paying someone to complete quests and activities on your behalf.

This makes it sound like soon Jagex will be selling not only gold and items via SOF, but also accounts.

 

I think they just took the old rules and added "on 3rd party websites" everywhere. Doesn't have to mean anything. Not that I would put it past Jagex though...

 

They changed it a lot more than just adding "on 3rd party websites" everywhere.

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I'm more worried about the line in the new rule that states

 

This includes, but is not limited to: purchasing gold or items for RuneScape on 3rd party websites, buying a RuneScape account on 3rd party websites, paying someone to increase your account's experience (XP) and paying someone to complete quests and activities on your behalf.

This makes it sound like soon Jagex will be selling not only gold and items via SOF, but also accounts.

 

I think they just took the old rules and added "on 3rd party websites" everywhere. Doesn't have to mean anything. Not that I would put it past Jagex though...

 

They changed it a lot more than just adding "on 3rd party websites" everywhere.

 

I was referring to that particular sentence, illustrating that just because it said "buying Runescape account" didn't necessarily have to mean that Jagex thinks about doing it.

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I just want them to remove medium and small lamps from the SoF. Well rather have them move it all together, but that's the best compromise I can think of.

 

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Oh, and Jagex aren't actually able to sell rsgp or tradable items, as that would set a real world price on gp, which then makes SoF gambling.

Expect to see exp-boosting items and untradable gear however.*

Yeah if they removed at least those it'd be a lot more reasonable. Large lamps are pretty rare still and very good xp, but constant xp like that from small/med is ridiculous..

They probably won't remove them without removing the buy option though. It's really what's going to sell those spins at this point :/. Friggin' momo squealbuyers.

 

*I would kind of like this..Well, not the first one so much. Untradable gear that's not like what's currently in-game (Auspicious Katana except not copied stats ffs..).

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Typical behavior for hypocrites.

 

The solution? Stop giving them your money.

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