Deaths Near Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Data collection complete for now. Questions, comments, suggestions welcome. I recently decided to test out some siphon rates at Runespan. These rates are with 92 Runecrafting, probably applicable from 90-95, and hopefully still interesting otherwise. When siphoning a node, a siphon attempt is made every two ticks. This attempt results in a fail (either 0 or 2.0 xp) or a success (xp depends on node). Undead Souls, Bloody Skulls, and Nebulas (Nebulae?), along with other, lower, nodes, have two possible runes, leading to three possible results (fail, rune 1, rune 2). When collecting data, I did not differentiate between a 0 xp and a 2 xp fail. For this reason, when doing the math, I assumed all fails result in 1 xp, without any data whatsoever to back it up. [spoiler=Data]Node Name A attempts, F fails, R runes.F/A% chance of a fail, R/A% chance of an X xp siphon.(F/A)(1 xp per fail) + (R/A)(X xp per siphon) = Y xp/attempt -> Y(60/1.2) = approximate xp/min Undead Soul Req level 95 Living Soul 1064 attempts, 868 fails, 196 Soul runes.81.58% chance of a fail, 18.42% chance of a 213 xp siphon.40.05 xp/attempt -> ~2002.5 xp/min Bloody Skulls 1168 attempts, 873 fails, 164 Death runes, 131 Blood runes.74.74% chance of a fail, 14.04% chance of a 144 xp siphon, 11.22% chance of a 175.5 xp siphon.40.66 xp/attempt -> ~2033 xp/min Blood Pool 1059 attempts, 832 fails, 227 Blood runes.78.56% chance of a fail, 21.44% chance of a 146.3 xp siphon.32.15 xp/attempt -> ~1607.6 xp/min Skulls 828 attempts, 597 fails, 231 Death runes.72.10% chance of a fail, 27.90% chance of a 120 xp siphon.34.20 xp/attempt -> ~1710.1 xp/min Jumper 1200 attempts, 805 fails, 395 Law runes.67.08% chance of a fail, 32.92% chance of a 107.8 xp siphon.36.16 xp/attempt -> ~1807.9 xp/min Shifter 995 attempts, 606 fails, 389 Nature runes.60.90% chance of a fail, 39.10% chance of an 86.8 xp siphon.34.55 xp/attempt -> ~1727.4 xp/min Nebula 963 attempts, 450 fails, 277 Cosmic runes, 236 Astral runes.46.73% chance of a fail, 28.76% chance of a 63.8 xp siphon, 24.51% chance of an 85.6 xp siphon.39.80 xp/attempt -> ~1989.8 xp/min Chaotic Cloud 856 attempts, 453 fails, 403 Chaos runes.52.92% chance of a fail, 47.08% chance of a 61.6 xp siphon.29.53 xp/attempt -> ~1476.5 xp/min The Lineup (92 Runecrafting): Bloody Skulls: 40.66 xp/attemptLiving Soul: 40.05 xp/attemptNebula: 39.80 xp/attemptJumper: 36.16 xp/attemptShifter: 34.55 xp/attemptSkulls: 34.20 xp/attemptBlood Pool: 32.15 xp/attemptChaotic Cloud: 29.53 xp/attempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I love that warm, fuzzy feeling I get when I see hit/miss data Living Soul 16.5-20.3% Accuracy Bloody Skull 23.1-27.3% Accuracy 50.8-60.4% Death 39.6-49.1% Blood Blood Pool 19.4-23.5% Accuracy Shifter 58.3-63.4% Accuracy Nebula 50.6-55.9% Accuracy 50.3-57.6% Cosmic 42.4-49.6% Astral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Seeing as I'm probably gonna live at span for rest of month, I might do some testing for level 80-85 on Nebulae/Shifters. Would it be viable to just type numbers to record data? Nothing or 2xp:1 , 65 xp:2 , and 86xp:3? Same for shifters with 1s and 2s ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 You can type 1 for a hit and 0 for a miss. If you need a tool to help you record, I can sort you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 You can type 1 for a hit and 0 for a miss. If you need a tool to help you record, I can sort you out.Easy enough to just have a few word files open, can just search the doc for 0s 1s 2s etc when done. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaths Near Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 You can type 1 for a hit and 0 for a miss. If you need a tool to help you record, I can sort you out.Easy enough to just have a few word files open, can just search the doc for 0s 1s 2s etc when done.That's what I did, it works :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaths Near Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 Updated with Skulls, Jumpers, Chaotic Clouds. That's all the data I'll be collecting for now. And intervals for those, since the skulls and clouds were smaller sample sizes, 90% confidence: Skulls: 25.3-30.5% accuracyJumper: 30.7-34.9& accuracyChaotic Clouds: 44.2-49.8% accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I've got some Runespan data lying around, it's miss/rune data based off siphoning individual nodes. undead soul zero 78 death 13 soul 7 undead soul zero 115 death 20 soul 10 bloody skulls zero 78 death 11 blood 17 living soul zero 85 soul 18 undead soul zero 57 death 7 soul 4 bloody skulls zero 78 death 12 blood 15 undead soul zero 116 death 21 soul 16 bloody skulls zero 103 death 23 blood 11 bloody skulls zero 102 death 20 blood 16 bloody skulls zero 67 death 17 blood 7 blood pool zero 47 blood 11 undead soul zero 152 death 21 soul 23 Probably not that big enough to be useful, eh, but still a bit. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Okay, here's some data on Nebula at level 80:[hide=%ages to come in a sec]1=Miss/2xp, 2=Cosmic Rune, 3=Astral Rune2-2-2-1-2-1-2-1-3-1-3-3-1-2-1-1-3-3-2-2-3-3-2-2-3-1-1-2-1-2-1-1-1-2-1-2-2-1-2-3-3-1-3-3-2-1-2-1-1-1-1-3-1-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-2-1-3-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-2-3-2-3-1-1-2-1-2-2-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-1-2-2-3-1-2-2-3-3-2-1-2-1-1-2-2-1-3-3-3-3-3-2-1-1-1-2-1-2-2-1-3-1-2-2-1-1-1-3-3-1-3-2-1-2-1-1-1-1-2-3-3-3-2-1-1-3-1-3-2-1-1-2-1-3-3-2-1-1-3-1-2-1-3-1-3-2-2-1-3-1-2-3-1-2-1-1-2-1-1-2-1-2-3-2-1-1-1-1-1-3-3-1-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-3-1-1-1-3-1-1-3-1-2-1-3-3-1-1-3-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-2-3-1-2-1-3-1-2-1-3-1-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-1-3-1-1-3-2-1-1-2-3-2-1-2-1-1-1-1-3-1-3-1-1-3-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-3-2-1-2-1-1-2-3-1-1-2-3-2-1-1-3-2-1-2-1-2-1-1-2-1-1-3-1-1-2-2-3-3-1-1-3-3-3-1-1-2-1-2-2-3-1-1-3-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-2-3-3-1-1-1-3-3-2-2-1-2-2-2-2-2-1-1-3-3-2-1-1-1-3-2-2-1-3-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-3-2-1-1-1-1-1-3-3-3-1-3-2-2-3-1-1-1-1-1-2-3-1-1-3-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-2-1-1-2-1-2-3-1-3-2-1-1-2-1-2-1-1-3-1-2-1-1-2-2-1-2-2-1-2-1-1-3-2-1-3-2-2-1-3-1-3-1-2-1-1-3-1-3-1-1-2-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-3-1-2-2-1-2-3-3-1-2-1-2-2-3-3-2-1-3-3-3-2-1-3-2-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-1-3-3-1-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-1-1-1-2-3-1-2-1-2-1-1-1-1-2-3-1-3-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-3-1-2-2-1-2-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-2-1-2-1-1-2-1-2-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-3-1-1-3-2-3-3-2-1-1-1-3-1-2-2-1-3-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-3-1-3-2-2-1-3-2-2-1-1-1-3-1-2-2-3-1-3-2-1-1-1-1-3-2-1-1-2-1-3-3-3-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-2-2-1-3-1-1-1-1-2-3-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-1-1-1-3-3-2-2-1-2-2-1-1-3-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-3-1-3-2-3-3-1-3-1-2-1-1-3-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-2-1-1-2-2-1-2-1-1-2-1-3-1-2-2-1-2-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-3-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-2-3-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-2-3-3-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-3-2-3-1-1-1-2-3-1-1-3-2-2-2-1-2-2-3-1-3-2-3-3-1-1-1-2-1-2-1-3-3-2-2[/hide] Total Results so far: 426 Misses, 213 Cosmics, 161 Astrals, 800 Total attempts Rates:Miss- 53.25% (1xp) 1564.27xp/hourCosmic- 26.625% (63.8xp) 49,899.76xp/hourAstral- 20.125% (85.6xp) 50,605.6xp/hour Total/hour on Nebula: 102,070xp/hour at level 80 (102,069.63 not rounded) Pretty sure I've done it right, if I have, I'll draw myself a spreadsheet to put the data in for later use. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 When you guys gather hit/miss data, can you put it in this spreadsheet (File->Make a copy) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AheuzHmAkHUNdE04LWNodzB5QjlqU1dJbmgzNlZXdUE ? Only edit the green cells. Tbh, don't mess with the 95% either. Post your hits, misses, lower bound, and upper bound, please. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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