lordkafei Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 RuneScape makes the news, but not exactly in a good way: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328922/Teenager-dragged-court-giving-away-friends-VIRTUAL-gold-coins-online-fantasy-game.html I found the sentence to be somewhat hilarious: He was given an eight-month conditional discharge and was ordered to pay £16 compensation by Swansea magistrates. £16 punishment for trashing a six-year-old account. Jagex could score some PR points by doing the wronged player a solid. But we all know they wont. PvP is not for meIn the 3rd Year of the BoycottReal-world money saved since FT/W: Hundreds of DollarsReal-world time saved since FT/W: Thousands of Hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Goddammit, Belmont. [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Reason why you never tell anyone your password. With love to one, friendship to many, and good will to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 First of all, that article is so bad. What's with the pictures, and calling gp 'credits'? Also what's with the whole 'no real world value' thing, I'm sure your collection of holiday pictures is worth nothing, still not a nice thing to remove some >.>. Second, $16 is kind of lame. But I guess it's not about the compensation, this guy needs to be fined for hurting someone (emotionally). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hajutze Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Will they give him a virtual sentence now they have wasted virtually everyone's time. This wins all the internet (the comments from the article) Edited May 23, 2013 by Jeremy841 removed format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheat Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Thats what you expect from Swansea residents - once Cardiff City are playing in the premiership they'll know who's boss again and stop with this tomfoolery. Pedicabo ego vos et irrumaboMinigames: Level 5 in All Barbarian Assault Roles PM me in game or on these forums to play. Over 500 Castle Wars Games with 460+ Tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodAngel Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 First of all, that article is so bad. What's with the pictures, and calling gp 'credits'? Also what's with the whole 'no real world value' thing, I'm sure your collection of holiday pictures is worth nothing, still not a nice thing to remove some >.>. Second, $16 is kind of lame. But I guess it's not about the compensation, this guy needs to be fined for hurting someone (emotionally). It's the Daily Mail, they aren't renowned for doing actual research :P Best used as toilet paper. 9 "Unfortunately, the real world isn't the same as a fairy tale." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emaxganis Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Tell to goldfarmers that "virtual credits" have no value.. lol Rule #14 - Don't argue with trolls, it means they win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 They got the number of accounts wrong, too-we hit 200m, remember? :P "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asandari Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Oh jeez, it's partially her fault anyway. So why is she being looked at as an innocent person? She had to give him the password so he could even do that. This is why if you're sharing a computer, you have two separate accounts on that computer. Your's and the other person; both password protected. Also, you never give out your Runescape password anyway. I don't feel bad for her at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Oh jeez, it's partially her fault anyway. So why is she being looked at as an innocent person? She had to give him the password so he could even do that. This is why if you're sharing a computer, you have two separate accounts on that computer. Your's and the other person; both password protected. Also, you never give out your Runescape password anyway. I don't feel bad for her at all.So if you give a copy of your house's keys to someone you think you can trust, but they end up stealing some of your stuff and giving it away, you should be partially guilty? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 He wants to pursue a career in the Armed Forces... Not being funny but... isn't he a bit too short? (This coming from someone who's only barely five feet tall). | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constrictor Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 6 years of saving all for 16 euro, what a terrible saver. muziclab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS_Qet Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 First of all, that article is so bad. What's with the pictures, and calling gp 'credits'? Also what's with the whole 'no real world value' thing, I'm sure your collection of holiday pictures is worth nothing, still not a nice thing to remove some >.>. Second, $16 is kind of lame. But I guess it's not about the compensation, this guy needs to be fined for hurting someone (emotionally). It's the Daily Mail, they aren't renowned for doing actual research :P Best used as toilet paper. Check out this gem http://www.dailymail...te-minutes.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estoc Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Oh jeez, it's partially her fault anyway. So why is she being looked at as an innocent person? She had to give him the password so he could even do that. This is why if you're sharing a computer, you have two separate accounts on that computer. Your's and the other person; both password protected. Also, you never give out your Runescape password anyway. I don't feel bad for her at all.So if you give a copy of your house's keys to someone you think you can trust, but they end up stealing some of your stuff and giving it away, you should be partially guilty? Not guilty of the theft, but of poor judgement. Edit: If you want to give your password/items/services away then you should be ready to have them taken with no compensation. It's your stuff, and so your responsibility to hand them out (or not at all) only to people you find trustworthy. Since people cannot force their way into your account except by your action or inaction, (barring extreme circumstances) your account and it's content's safety rests with you. Nobody is accusing the "innocent victim" as being responsible for carrying out the theft, but they effectively opened the door for the accused. From the empty days of hope, deny the darknessFollow my voice, we'll run far away from hereIf only to hide, to escape this lifeAnd live forever, forever in the sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Based on his article, Bond seems to be ridiculed by the whole episode being played out in the court. But imo Belmont's action is wrong regardless of whether the gp (and in fact any kind of virtual money in future reference) have any real monetary value or whether the victim is partially or fully responsible for trusting others and sharing log-in details. I think £16 is a little bit of a joke. In consideration of the abundance of online games at the present, this is not going to be the last of such cases, I believe the magistrates need to make a statement to everyone that actions along the line of theft or unauthorised access to computer and contents of any forms that are under some extent of restricted access, cannot be tolerated by imposing more severe punishments. As for Jagex, from the advertising point of view, any publicity is good publicity. A low profile story like this is just another free advertising opportunity...I'm sure they can work out a good spin if they want to take on this. 'Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.' T.S. Eliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Oh jeez, it's partially her fault anyway. So why is she being looked at as an innocent person? She had to give him the password so he could even do that. This is why if you're sharing a computer, you have two separate accounts on that computer. Your's and the other person; both password protected. Also, you never give out your Runescape password anyway. I don't feel bad for her at all.So if you give a copy of your house's keys to someone you think you can trust, but they end up stealing some of your stuff and giving it away, you should be partially guilty? Oh geez not this discussion again. You should go pass through Off Topic amd check out the discussions over there regarding this principle :twss: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 That article is really poorly researched (but as expected from the Daily Fail). The £16 compensation was for the booze he stole the same night, he also paid £85 prosecution costs and a £15 victim surcharge. A total fine of £116 which considering he is of "no fixed abode" must have felt pretty harsh. He wasn't charged with the theft of the virtual items, he was charged with gaining unauthorised access to a computer and making unauthorised modifications to computer material and for that he was given eight-months conditional discharge. It's one of the lowest punishments a court can give and as long as he stays out of trouble for the next 8-months then he'll be fine. I'm sure Jagex will have given the girls stuff back (as they have done on rare occasions). The biggest punishment for this kid is that he'll probably be ridiculed by his mates for playing RuneScape and his relationship with the girl now over. 5 Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Saying the ingame "credits" don't have any real world value and comparing it to monopoly money is just blatant ignorant... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blyaunte Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Saying the ingame "credits" don't have any real world value and comparing it to monopoly money is just blatant ignorant... If anything, it demonstrates how out of touch both the "journalist" and his editor are with the technology involved ... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golvellius Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 What is he some kind of homeless chav? Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) Aaaand if he is...? What are you some kind of no-life gamer virgin? Oh geez not this discussion again. You should go pass through Off Topic amd check out the discussions over there regarding this principle :twss:Don't you dare! We've been going around this circle for days. :( Edited May 23, 2013 by Ginger_Warrior 2 | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Mike Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Thats what you expect from Swansea residents - once Cardiff City are playing in the premiership they'll know who's boss again and stop with this tomfoolery.Haha, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Virtual currency has well established exchange rates for real currency which vary over time, just like any commodity. I don't know why people are so surprised when stuff like this does happen. A £100 fine does seem a bit low though, considering she'd been playing for 6 years I'd imagine the items he took were worth more than that. Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Except that the fine wasn't for the virtual money, it was for the stolen alcohol, valued at £16, and the remaining £100 a mixture of prosecution costs and victim surcharges. In fact:"Teenager Keiron Belmont in court for decimating man`s online RuneScape fantasy game profile"[/i].']No separate penalty was imposed for the computer game offence.It's only been mentioned three times in two pages, so it's pretty clear to see why you'd have missed it. :-| | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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