Lallanaboat Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 So a few things then, I have recently started a new account and have just gone through the tutorial, they use a task system based around Taverly and Burnthorpe, altogether I did 68 tasks before being able to really venture out into the world on my own. My complaints; 1. It's not in Lumbridge, which is just odd.2. It is far to long.3. Although I do plan on going P2P, I do not see the need to heavily go into members skills.4. I did 4 quests, why does questing have to be involved in the tutorial, although I did do The Death of Chilvary, which I suspect wasn't needed to progress. I just think it was a bit silly that I had to do so much before I could get out and start, rant over! Keepin' it real since '93. #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 The tutorial does have issues, but some of your points are kinda unfounded as 'problems.' 1) It not being Lumbridge does not matter. All told Lumbridge did not even serve as a tutorial for the majority of the games existence, most of that time was Tutorial Island. But ultimately the location is meaningless other than returning player nostalgia. 4) Perhaps because, like skills, quests are a HUGE part of Runescape. Plus none of the 3 quests actually come in to the first bit of the tutorial which is kinda the 'mandatory' bit they come at the stage where it suggests things to do but you can freely wander off and ignore it. Also you can leave the tutorial at any time, in fact to do DoC you clearly did leave the tutorial as it happens exclusively in the Burthorpe/Taverly area whilst DoC is off near edgeville. 1 Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBearBlue Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 On the point of 1 and 4, I agree with Sy. 2) Tutorial Island was just as long back in 2005 as the current tutorial is now. Only difference here is that Tutorial Island was it's own location with a tutorial feel, so you didn't get the urge to go off into the world as bad as you do now, since your world is a tutorial. Now the tutorial takes places in Burthope/Traverely with other players who are moving faster than you are. It makes you anxious to go out and do something rather than learn some basics. 3) We've talked about this in a suggestion thread for EOC (can't remember which) and I generally agree going into members skill so earlier is too much. In fact, going into all the skills so heavy as the current tutorial does is too much. I think they should supply the basics for survival (this is how you light a fire, this is how you cook raw meat on it, this is how you fish for more food) with later tutorials showing a bit more advance stuff that appear as you interact with the world (Did you know you can also cook on a range? Would you like to see how? Did you know you can make your own armor? Would you like to review that? You're becoming a better farmer. Would you like to try farming something bigger?) 4) Some of those quest actually work also tutorials for Herblore, Summoning, etc which I think is a nice way of switching up teaching about new skills. "Goals dont have a deadline." -xxxgod quoting Lady Shahdie [slayer "Essentials"][click pic for main blog][click quote for mini blog][Worthwhile Auras] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallanaboat Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 All valid points no doubt, I was just putting over my opinions, maybe I just am old school and crave the tutorial island to then complete and just end up in Lumbridge with the world at your feet! Keepin' it real since '93. #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Slayas Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I would have to agree Lumbridge was a better starting area (so simple, with absolutely everything you need for low level training in plain sight and very on-the-nose) although with the Battle Of Lumbridge currently going on, I imagine most new players would generally head towards the flashing lights. I would have to agree the tutorial is far too long, and the fact that it's a chore to turn off / get out of the tutorial is another flaw i completely agree with you about. The fact it gets into member's skill is really a matter of preference.... do you show new players a taste of all the available content (and risk overwhelming them?) or do you show them a fraction of it and risk them leaving after not being impressed. My Pure F2P Blog: CLICK ME6th Maintainer of the Pure F2P Highscores / The Top 250 F2P Skill Total Lists : May 16th, 2012 - March 30th, 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHave999Int Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 It really doesn't make any difference if the tutorial is in lumbridge or not.The reason the tutorial is so long is because it takes you through each and every skill which in my opinion is a good thing.The quests are a big part of runescape since they actually differ from quests in other games where the quests are like kill x things also 2 of them sort of work like tutorials for herblore and summoning which i think is nice. I could write something clever or witty down here but i'm too lazy to do that. If you're bored check out my youtube channel i post videos of playing browser and retro games:http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOkjD5iYUrhBeYP6eg4HHuQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazarabbit Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I disagree, I never found tutorial island that long or hard to complete. Honestly, that was why they revamped it because at the time everyone was kicking up a fuss over the autoing that was going on. Maybe I'm semi-old school, I'm just mad at how simplified everything is appearing and the million notifications I get now. Location? Really? You can get the exact same learning experience from either, its a minor factor and shouldn't affect anything. Proud Tip.It Moderator December 07 - October 2009Proud TETAU Member 2006 - 2007 <3"I had a standing agreement with god. I'd agree to believe in him, barely, so long as he let me sleep in on Sundays." - Rose Hathaway[ Posting & You ] [ Forum Rules ] [ Next Tetau Event ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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