Maxingmck Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 In 07RS I was wondering the relative DPS (which are best) on Graardor and Zilyana for a few setups: Assume 99 atk/str boosted to Avg 114. Other gear slots give +43 str and +23 slash Bandos Armor + Whip/DefenderBandos Armor + Kraken Whip/Defender (kraken whip is +8 slash +4 str over whip)Bandos Armor + BGS and the same weapon sets except this time in guthans top/bottom Noobs: We pay we sayJaGeX: How much will you pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 http://www.xp-waste.com/post15978.html?sid=688308e60b17ed2f4b081d4316f4be67#p15978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I recently tried calculating this but couldn't wrap my head around it at all. For anyone interested in trying, here are some good sources of information for you to work with: http://www.xp-waste.com/the-bandos-project-major-update-t72.html http://www.xp-waste.com/oldschool-staking-odds-calculator-and-accuracy-formula-t3810.html I'm interested in the results. Based on experience and anecdotal evidence I suspect the whip, and certainly the kraken whip, will reign supreme, but godsword being better wouldn't shock me too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxingmck Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 But do these statistics prove one over the other? See, if i was any good at using those formulas I wouldnt have asked tho Noobs: We pay we sayJaGeX: How much will you pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 They provide well tested defense rolls of Graardor as well as proven accuracy/DPS forumla for weapons, so if someone with some math skills and time to calculate it, yeah you should be able to find some definitive answers for bandos using that information relatively easily. I got a job interview to go to in an hour or two, when I get back I may take another crack at this depending on how the interview goes! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 It's algebra 1, and I know that mck has taken that :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxingmck Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 Except I see variables like A and D being used multiple times and get confused eg. AD/CD vs A>D if 1-(D+a)/2A and have no idea which letter correlates Plus IDK zil and graars def Noobs: We pay we sayJaGeX: How much will you pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Gonna calc lots of different setups today but for now just max str kraken whip vs max str godsword. For reference "Max strength" means with fury and defender because true max str is impractical Graardor's max slash defence roll is 639.46777770196506550218340611418 Tent whip (max strength) 130 slash - 134 strength Max hit = 49Average hit = 24.5 Effective attack level (E)= 118 * 1.2= 141.6= 141Attack roll (A)= (E + 8) * (1 + Bonus / 64)= (141 + 8) * (1 + 130 / 64)= (149) * (1 + 2.01375)= (149) * (3.01375)= 449.04875AccuracyC = (A - 1) / 2(D)C = (449.04875 - 1) / 2(639.46777770196506550218340611418)C = 448.04875 / 2(639.46777770196506550218340611418)C = 448.04875 / 1278.9355554039301310043668122282C = 0.35032941895DPSAccuracy * Average hit / (seconds per hit)0.35032941895* 24.5 / 2.4DPS = 3.57627948511 Godsword (Max Strength) 153 slash - 175 strength Max hit = 60Average hit = 30 Effective attack level (E)= 118 * 1.2= 141.6= 141Attack roll (A)= (E + 8) * (1 + Bonus / 64)= (141 + 8) * (1 + 153 / 64)= (149) * (1 + 2.390625)= (149) * (3.390625)= 505.203125AccuracyC = (A - 1) / 2(D)C = (505.203125 - 1) / 2(639.46777770196506550218340611418)C = 504.203125 / 2(639.46777770196506550218340611418)C = 504.203125 / 1278.9355554039301310043668122282C = 0.39423653746DPSAccuracy * Average hit / (seconds per hit)0.39423653746 * 30 / 3.6DPS = 3.28530447883 In conculsion, max strength Kraken whip is a good bit better than the godsword. It's close enough to make me curious to test the godsword stats in attack gear too though see how it changes. Coming soon: Max attack armours (fighter hat, warrior ring) etc... Let's see what the true best gear is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I should also mention that their stats in 07 aren't necessarily what their stats were in 2007. I'll see if I can get an answer from a developer for you though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Thanks Hedge, I'd really appreciate that. Tent whip (max attack) 143 slash - 123 strength Max hit = 46Average hit = 23 Effective attack level (E)= 118 * 1.2= 141.6= 141Attack roll (A)= (E + 8) * (1 + Bonus / 64)= (141 + 8) * (1 + 143 / 64)= (149) * (1 + 2.234375)= (149) * (3.234375)= 481.921875AccuracyC = (A - 1) / 2(D)C = (481.921875 - 1) / 2(639.46777770196506550218340611418)C = 480.921875 / 2(639.46777770196506550218340611418)C = 480.921875 / 1278.9355554039301310043668122282C = 0.37603292282DPSAccuracy * Average hit / (seconds per hit)0.37603292282* 23 / 2.4DPS = 3.60364884369 Godsword (Max Attack) 166 slash - 164 strength Max hit = 57Average hit = 28.5 Effective attack level (E)= 118 * 1.2= 141.6= 141Attack roll (A)= (E + 8) * (1 + Bonus / 64)= (141 + 8) * (1 + 166 / 64)= (149) * (1 + 2.59375)= (149) * (3.59375)= 535.46875AccuracyC = (A - 1) / 2(D)C = (535.46875 - 1) / 2(639.46777770196506550218340611418)C = 535.46875 / 2(639.46777770196506550218340611418)C = 535.46875 / 1278.9355554039301310043668122282C = 0.41868313672DPSAccuracy * Average hit / (seconds per hit)0.41868313672 * 28.5 / 3.6DPS = 3.31457483237 Attack is better with Whip and godsword! Kraken whip with attack is the ultimate thus far. I have one more test to do though. Fighter hat with zerk ring. This will be the ultimate conclusion, as it's 5 slash for 3 str, whereas the rings are 8 for 8. Hope that justification makes sense to you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Tent whip (Fighter hat, zerk ring) 135 slash - 131 strength Max hit = 48Average hit = 24 Effective attack level (E)= 118 * 1.2= 141.6= 141Attack roll (A)= (E + 8) * (1 + Bonus / 64)= (141 + 8) * (1 + 135 / 64)= (149) * (1 + 2.109375)= (149) * (3.109375)= 463.296875AccuracyC = (A - 1) / 2(D)C = (463.296875 - 1) / 2(639.46777770196506550218340611418)C = 462.296875 / 2(639.46777770196506550218340611418)C = 462.296875 / 1278.9355554039301310043668122282C = 0.36147003111DPSAccuracy * Average hit / (seconds per hit)0.36147003111* 24 / 2.4DPS = 3.6147003111 AHA!!! AS SUSPECTED! Zerk ring + Fighter hat is the best. Warrior ring is not worth using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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