Maxingmck Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Apparently 07s form of botwatch is transferring 'suspected' accounts over to a server meant to monitor accounts more heavily. The pretense was to give bots a world where they can be alone to be confirmed as guilty/not. However I have been constantly switched over to these worlds just by training agi at 40k xp/h. This is no where near the optimal rate at lvl 68 and also I constantly talk/get distracted. So there are a few reasons I am opposed to such worlds 1. The majority population now is given the mirage idea that bots are gone2. Bots now have even less competition3. Innocent accounts like myself get moved over for doing nothing wrong4. JaGeX could honestly be lying and just want to give bots their own world with no repercussions5. If the system was as flawless as a bot detection resource should theorhetically be (loljagex), a special world would be redundant (since they can be determined innocent/guilty by a botwatch)6. Any player can use these worlds to avoid the majority of RS players by manipulating the URL7. Kids get on that world and just report anyone they see8. The pretense of 'monitoring suspects more closely' makes zero sense since they had to have been 'monitored' to be sent to the world in the first place9. Kids think its ok to bot on those worlds10. Jagex was being shady again in sneaking these worlds in without a newspost11. It is not a long-term solution12. The idea is in beta testing yet somehow still was officially released way before it was ready (just like EOC/Botwatch) So what is TIFs opinion on 07 "purgatory" worlds Noobs: We pay we sayJaGeX: How much will you pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sa121 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 They're working, believe it or not. If you check bot sites, plenty of sites are reporting a lot more bans of lately, and people I know who run botfarms are getting accounts banned pretty fast. OSRS actually has a full time anti-bot guy now too, so I dunno if it's really the bot worlds doing the work or him. The only thing I dislike about the bot worlds are the possibility of getting moved while PvMing, but it's still rare. Also, there was definitely some sort of pres-release about the worlds in response to your 10th point. The worlds have been online for a month or two now. R.I.P Shiva and The Old NiteVisit My Huge Goals!!! <---- Click ThisMy Pk GalleryGWD: 3x Saradomin Sword, 2x Saradomin Hilt, 2X B Boots, 1x Tasset, 2X B Plate, 2X Shard, 1X D MedTDs: 3x Solo Claws, 1x Solo Armour Piece99 Untrimmed HP, 0% Pc'd and before Soul Wars -- Trimmed July 1, 2009First Untrimmed HP Cape to 96 summon, top 300 to 96 summonProud owner of the strength, magic, range, and hitpoints capes.Spa_Ins/LOLCANADA on IRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I just don't understand how it can take people doing DKs and transfer them into the bot worlds. 1 In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I just don't understand how it can take people doing DKs and transfer them into the bot worlds.They don't move you to a bot world/ban you right when they catch you for botting. They wait a random amount of time, so that bot developers can't look at what their bot was doing right when it got punished and fix that issue. This is why you hear of people getting banned for botting while mhing and saying, "Obviously I wasn't botting. How can you bot dks???" Regarding the separate world issue, I think it's a good way to gather more information on the behavior of bots. If you just ban a bot right away, you only know what they were doing up until they were caught. If you quarantine them, you can continue to gather data for as long as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxingmck Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 I agree but when people who have never botted or even have any idea how stuff like that even behaves get forced into a world for no accurate reason, the system clearly isn't working as intended and therefore probably should be removed/altered until it behaves correctly. I never had the slightest clue of either worlds existing until I recently started training agi for Sara GWD, then bam 2 force-hops in 2 days. Im not a bot and i dont expect to be treated as one. Noobs: We pay we sayJaGeX: How much will you pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Just curious, how does it transition you from 1 world to the bot world? If you notice you're put in a bot world can you just change worlds? I think theoretically it could be useful to monitor bots and gather data, I dunno how well they are handling it though. I've personally not seen many bots at all in the past few weeks, but i don't skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Just curious, how does it transition you from 1 world to the bot world? If you notice you're put in a bot world can you just change worlds? I think theoretically it could be useful to monitor bots and gather data, I dunno how well they are handling it though. I've personally not seen many bots at all in the past few weeks, but i don't skill.You'll see a message that you're transferring worlds, and it'll take a few seconds. You can hop right out of it again, but chances are it will just put you back. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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