Runecrafts Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm currently trying to build up my bank by high level PvM'ing, I've been doing KK and Nex mainly. I want to start getting into top-tier bosses, (Vorago, Rots), What are some of the minimum requirements to get on teams for these? Currently my best gear is dual Drygores and Malevolent (Or Tetsu). I was talking to someone who said I could base tank at Vorago. If I did, would it be tough to find teams with my gear? For ROTS, Is it possible to kill them efficiently with Virtus wand/book? Or are Ascensions or Seismics a requirement? Hi if you're reading this you are amazing and I love you.Maybe they'll release a bugless update for April Fools. That'd sure be a joke[hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide]Congrats, you reached the end! Now go outside![/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Dash Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 For base tanking, you need drygores, malevolent/tetsu/torva, and a divine/malevolent shield. So you shouldn't have any issues finding a team as long as you actually know what you are doing. “I had a feeling we weren’t coming back from this fight when it began.”“Do you have any regrets?”“I don’t. It seems surprising, I know, but I wouldn’t change a thing. This is how it was meant to be.”“Huh, you never really notice how lovely the day is until you realize you’ll never see it again.”“Mmmhmm.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Your gear seems fine, its more likey the 'if you know what you're doing' part that will make it tricky to get a team. One of them slightly annoying circular dependencies - you need a team to learn what you're doing, but teams won't take you unless you know what you are doing. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Dash Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Having friends or a clanmates that are good at Vorago/ROTS that are willing to take you and teach is pretty important. There might even be some people here that would be willing to teach you. “I had a feeling we weren’t coming back from this fight when it began.”“Do you have any regrets?”“I don’t. It seems surprising, I know, but I wouldn’t change a thing. This is how it was meant to be.”“Huh, you never really notice how lovely the day is until you realize you’ll never see it again.”“Mmmhmm.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 You can join a mass, and if I'm not wrong there's an FC on the Teamwork forums that is sometimes training people for Vorago. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Wave Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Vorago base you have good gear for just need a malev.Bomb tank would be death lotus and elysian Dps seis/ascs Rots mh asc oh dl dart is probably the bare minimum to find consistent teams. Best way to learn would be making friends take you or joining a pvm clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 You may find teams to teach you to do vorago, that is for sure.You won't find a team that will teach you rots. You can be carried there, but only by those that can trio it. Your only options are to PAY people to teach you, or to find three other people who don't know how to do it, and try to learn the boss.Thats the sad truth. Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levells Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 fc: riseofthe6I haven't used it yet but it's on my list to try after comp. There should be a thread in the Teamwork section on rsof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 rots isnt even worth it anymore best drops (reasonably accurate/up to date): 1x Elysian Sigil (LS), 1x Arcane Sigil (cs), 4x Armadyl Hilt (solo at 100m, 100m, 50m, and 5m), 2x Saradomin Hilt (solo at 25m), 5x Draconic Visage (34m,1.2m,1.2m) and various cs/ls/ffa Nex splits. Drygore Drops: 7 Longswords, 3 Maces, 3 Rapiers, 3 Off-hand Rapiers, 5 Off-hand Maces, 3 Off-hand LongswordsROTS Shields: 12 Seismics: 16Ascension Crossbows: 6 Spider Legs: 10Countless Armadyl armour pieces, Saradomin amulets, Dragon Hatchets, and Fremenik Rings.Range~Herblore~Construction~Constitution~Defence~Farming~Magic~Attack~Prayer~Strength~Summoning~Slayer~Mining~Dungeoneering~Firemaking~Agility~Magic Mastery~Summoning Mastery~Cooking~Smithing~Fletching~Thieving~Hunter~Woodcutting~Fishing~Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Wave Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 rots isnt even worth it anymore Asseming say 8 kills per hour and 1.5 end per chest that's 5.4m off end with 300k avg loot per chest 8m p/h+shields. I'd say that's worth it. Not to mention it's also one of, if not the, most fun bosses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 rots isnt even worth it anymore Asseming say 8 kills per hour and 1.5 end per chest that's 5.4m off end with 300k avg loot per chest 8m p/h+shields. I'd say that's worth it. Not to mention it's also one of, if not the, most fun bosses. Rago is 12m+/hr and afk so best drops (reasonably accurate/up to date): 1x Elysian Sigil (LS), 1x Arcane Sigil (cs), 4x Armadyl Hilt (solo at 100m, 100m, 50m, and 5m), 2x Saradomin Hilt (solo at 25m), 5x Draconic Visage (34m,1.2m,1.2m) and various cs/ls/ffa Nex splits. Drygore Drops: 7 Longswords, 3 Maces, 3 Rapiers, 3 Off-hand Rapiers, 5 Off-hand Maces, 3 Off-hand LongswordsROTS Shields: 12 Seismics: 16Ascension Crossbows: 6 Spider Legs: 10Countless Armadyl armour pieces, Saradomin amulets, Dragon Hatchets, and Fremenik Rings.Range~Herblore~Construction~Constitution~Defence~Farming~Magic~Attack~Prayer~Strength~Summoning~Slayer~Mining~Dungeoneering~Firemaking~Agility~Magic Mastery~Summoning Mastery~Cooking~Smithing~Fletching~Thieving~Hunter~Woodcutting~Fishing~Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Wave Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 rots isnt even worth it anymore Asseming say 8 kills per hour and 1.5 end per chest that's 5.4m off end with 300k avg loot per chest 8m p/h+shields. I'd say that's worth it. Not to mention it's also one of, if not the, most fun bosses. Rago is 12m+/hr and afk so Did the math earlier. let me recalculate with curent split/ens prices. (1225+237)/2=731/6=121.83 drop worth 1/40 drop rate with ~20 minute kills (including banking and waiting) you should expect a drop every 40*20=800 minutes or every 13.3 hoursYou gain 280/6 energies=46.6 energy=.365m*46.6=17m.During 13.3 hours you use:160 ovl doses- 19k*160=3m160 super restores- 8.8k*160=1.4m400 rocktails- 2.1k*400=840k40 pnecs- 4.5k*40= .18m160 prayer renewal doses- .25m200 adrenaline potion doses- .27m13 yak pouches- 50k40% of your tectonic- .4*40.7m=16.28m130% of seismic wand*- (1.5m/100)*130=1.95msing*- 1.95m/2=.975mvboots*- .05m/100*130=.065mvgloves*- .065m Total costs= 3+1.4+.84+.18+.25+.27+.05+16.28+1.95+.975+.065+.065=25.325m Total profits per hour=121.83+17-25.325=113.5/13.3=8.53m. *Assumed you’re 99 smithing and using POH anvil cause I’m lazy. So where'd you get 12m p/h from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 bc i bomb tank and get 4 normal drops/kill I'm kinda just trolling for rago but in all seriousness if you have a friend group bigger than four people who are regularly on then it's for sure better to do rago than rots. I still maintain that rots is more effort. best drops (reasonably accurate/up to date): 1x Elysian Sigil (LS), 1x Arcane Sigil (cs), 4x Armadyl Hilt (solo at 100m, 100m, 50m, and 5m), 2x Saradomin Hilt (solo at 25m), 5x Draconic Visage (34m,1.2m,1.2m) and various cs/ls/ffa Nex splits. Drygore Drops: 7 Longswords, 3 Maces, 3 Rapiers, 3 Off-hand Rapiers, 5 Off-hand Maces, 3 Off-hand LongswordsROTS Shields: 12 Seismics: 16Ascension Crossbows: 6 Spider Legs: 10Countless Armadyl armour pieces, Saradomin amulets, Dragon Hatchets, and Fremenik Rings.Range~Herblore~Construction~Constitution~Defence~Farming~Magic~Attack~Prayer~Strength~Summoning~Slayer~Mining~Dungeoneering~Firemaking~Agility~Magic Mastery~Summoning Mastery~Cooking~Smithing~Fletching~Thieving~Hunter~Woodcutting~Fishing~Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 If you have gear + know how to do speed kills duo nex is the best gp/hr pvm atm. 1 Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Wave Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 If you have gear + know how to do speed kills duo nex is the best gp/hr pvm atm.Is there proof for that? I assume sub 5 minute kills? Edit: Math time! I'll be using stefanssb's nex drop statistics as my source (http://www.twitch.tv/stefanssb) and assuming 4 minute kills with 1 minute spawn time, or 5 minutes total per kill. Banking will be assumed to be 3 minutes and 1 flask trips so 33 minutes per trip. Drop rate of an item=1/21 or1/3.5 trips= 1 drop per 115.5 minutes. Let's say 2 hours to keep it easy. Average price of a nex item= 27.783 so splt=13.892 per 2 hours= 6.946 per hour.Now for the normal drops.You could expect to get on average these drops: 1.75 onyx bolts1.4 green dhide1.4 rune ore1.4 grimy torstol1.4 magic seeds1.3125 magic logs1.235 coal1 torstol seeds.913 avantoe+dwarf (Ignored b/rs, pess etc) So that's worth:Onyx: 5.6GDH: 1.54Rune ore: 1.218Grimy t: .3402Magic seeds: 1.0822Magic logs: .6403Coal: .6165Torstol seeds: .1826Avantoe and dwarf: .9906 Which is worth: 12.2104 ever 2 hours=6.1052 split with your partner= 3.0526 So 6.946+3.0526 per hour= 10m per hour. This makes speed duo nex better gp/h than Vorago and potentially rots. Idk the shield drop rates for rots so I can't find the actual gp/hr. Edit2: was told shield drop rates of 1/64 and keeping shields you should expect a shield every 8 hours on average (ew)Average shield is 31m, but a bit lower in ge so we'll say 30m this adds 3.75m profit per hour so rots is 11.75m p/h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 assuming you need 90 tribrid for speed duo nex? dks is also very solid money although i'm not sure how much, but it seems like at least 6-8m/hr without having too high requirements (80 mage/range + drys are probably sufficient) best drops (reasonably accurate/up to date): 1x Elysian Sigil (LS), 1x Arcane Sigil (cs), 4x Armadyl Hilt (solo at 100m, 100m, 50m, and 5m), 2x Saradomin Hilt (solo at 25m), 5x Draconic Visage (34m,1.2m,1.2m) and various cs/ls/ffa Nex splits. Drygore Drops: 7 Longswords, 3 Maces, 3 Rapiers, 3 Off-hand Rapiers, 5 Off-hand Maces, 3 Off-hand LongswordsROTS Shields: 12 Seismics: 16Ascension Crossbows: 6 Spider Legs: 10Countless Armadyl armour pieces, Saradomin amulets, Dragon Hatchets, and Fremenik Rings.Range~Herblore~Construction~Constitution~Defence~Farming~Magic~Attack~Prayer~Strength~Summoning~Slayer~Mining~Dungeoneering~Firemaking~Agility~Magic Mastery~Summoning Mastery~Cooking~Smithing~Fletching~Thieving~Hunter~Woodcutting~Fishing~Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Wave Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 assuming you need 90 tribrid for speed duo nex? dks is also very solid money although i'm not sure how much, but it seems like at least 6-8m/hr without having too high requirements (80 mage/range + drys are probably sufficient) Idk for sure. seis+ascs would be best, but maybe drys+ascs for the dps could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Seis+drys+ascs would be best because if it's praying mage anywhere but zaros phase you should be meleeing (tbh you should probably usually be meleeing because melee dps are so good) best drops (reasonably accurate/up to date): 1x Elysian Sigil (LS), 1x Arcane Sigil (cs), 4x Armadyl Hilt (solo at 100m, 100m, 50m, and 5m), 2x Saradomin Hilt (solo at 25m), 5x Draconic Visage (34m,1.2m,1.2m) and various cs/ls/ffa Nex splits. Drygore Drops: 7 Longswords, 3 Maces, 3 Rapiers, 3 Off-hand Rapiers, 5 Off-hand Maces, 3 Off-hand LongswordsROTS Shields: 12 Seismics: 16Ascension Crossbows: 6 Spider Legs: 10Countless Armadyl armour pieces, Saradomin amulets, Dragon Hatchets, and Fremenik Rings.Range~Herblore~Construction~Constitution~Defence~Farming~Magic~Attack~Prayer~Strength~Summoning~Slayer~Mining~Dungeoneering~Firemaking~Agility~Magic Mastery~Summoning Mastery~Cooking~Smithing~Fletching~Thieving~Hunter~Woodcutting~Fishing~Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Wave Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Seis+drys+ascs would be best because if it's praying mage anywhere but zaros phase you should be meleeing (tbh you should probably usually be meleeing because melee dps are so good) Yea but you take a lot of damage on some phases, plus I see most speed duos using seis/ascs. Also melee tanking sucks compared to mage/range tanking imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runecrafts Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Since the original question was answered and the thread is alive still, I'll ask another rather then making a new thread. What would the best way to find a Vorago learning team be? I'm in a high level clan, but most people in it that do Vorago do it privately and don't want to teach someone.I've searched on the forums and found a FC that teaches Vorago, but it was sort-of out-dated. Hi if you're reading this you are amazing and I love you.Maybe they'll release a bugless update for April Fools. That'd sure be a joke[hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide]Congrats, you reached the end! Now go outside![/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Wave Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Since the original question was answered and the thread is alive still, I'll ask another rather then making a new thread. What would the best way to find a Vorago learning team be? I'm in a high level clan, but most people in it that do Vorago do it privately and don't want to teach someone.I've searched on the forums and found a FC that teaches Vorago, but it was sort-of out-dated. Make some friends in your clan and ask them to take you. Go to clan events for vorago or just ask if people are willing to teach you.On that note what gear do you currently have and what experience do you have at other bosses? Also don't underestimate Youtube guides. I know JusticeRS has a lot of vorago guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlskid Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 A good way that my clan practices and uses to teach newbies to kk and Vorago is by using the Combat beta, that way if you die you can automatically relog with full inventory and everything. Summoning help:[hide=Wio, lol][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runecrafts Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Make some friends in your clan and ask them to take you. Go to clan events for vorago or just ask if people are willing to teach you.On that note what gear do you currently have and what experience do you have at other bosses? Also don't underestimate Youtube guides. I know JusticeRS has a lot of vorago guides. The only role I'd be able to do (as far as I understand) is base tanking with melee, so with that my gear is: Dual Drygore longswords, full Malevolent, Razorback gauntlets, Kiln cape, Saradomins whisper, Steadfast boots, and then a Divine for my shield.Gear really isn't the issue, I could swap to Tetsu if I did need that extra HP/defense boost. I've looked at plenty of Vorago guides on youtube and read some on the RSOF, now I just need to get out there and actually attempt it. As far as other bossing goes, the only ones that I have not done are rots and Vorago. Hi if you're reading this you are amazing and I love you.Maybe they'll release a bugless update for April Fools. That'd sure be a joke[hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide][hide]Congrats, you reached the end! Now go outside![/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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