Merre Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Hey guys, I've been playing RS for ten years now and once in a while Jagex scares me away by releasing stupid new things or changing stuff that is so pointless.I've quit RS when they introduced the trade limit (like 7yrs ago or something), then I quit RS again when they made dungeoneering into a skill forcing me to grind stupid minigames/puzzles if I ever wanted that awesome max cape...Then the bots screwed up the game completely making it impossible to slayer certain tasks... So I took a break againLast time I quit was at EOC because I'm oldschool and I liked RS for the simplicity and suddenly they wanted to create some kind of low-graphics World Of Warcraft with skill/ability bars, screwing up special attacks, armor sets etc etc.I ragequit because I didn't (want to) understand the EOC system and Jagex made it impossible for me to finish quests that required high level combat (maxed in every cb skill, though) but without using abilities alot of hardcore stuff won't die. I came back a month ago in F2P noticed 99% of bots were gone so I became member again, I leveled my div to L75 yesterday and I thought I should finish the 'Fate of the gods'-quest, but guess what: although Jagex claims momentum drastically increases auto-attacks and I would assume it should take a little longer to kill off mobs, eventually you should be able to...Guess I was wrong, the combat part with the 4 different mobs is just impossible without the usage of abilities. I get owned every time, die, fill invo with rocktails and take out a new BOB filled with rocktails, lodestone Eagles Peak, run back in and get owned again.Basically if you wanna unlock new stuff for skilling or get awesome amounts of skill XP they force you to do quests, but if you're too oldschool to keep adapting and relearning every new (lame!?) thing Jagex introduces then you are basically screwed.Imo RS is dying bit by bit, new players don't like it because it's totally screwed atm. And the old veterans are all leaving... Shame Jagex doesn't realize they had a nice concept, Runescape has always been one of its kind. Why try and be like the rest? Why remove stuff people like to replace it with stuff that has been done sooooo many times in other MMORPG's except here the game isn't made for those cb changes. I don't get it... It frustrates me and takes my courage away to keep going... What a shame! 2016 goals: all skills +30mil xp - Completed this goal 11th December 2016 2017 goals: get at least 3 more master capes (start xp: invention done@21st Jan, mining done@2nd April & ranged 76/104mil done@June 20th) & all skills +40mil xp (done 24th August) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 It's possible that you're dying because of bad gear instead of momentum. What's your setup? In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merre Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 Full bandos, the glacor melee boots, rapier main hand & excalibu off hand, glory ammy, neitiz helm, extreme att def & str + some super restores & invo filled with rocks + yak full of rocks...Doubt that is the problem, surely not the best setup but as I'm not doing melee anymore except in quests I don't wanna keep all the best stuff in bank losing their value over time... 2016 goals: all skills +30mil xp - Completed this goal 11th December 2016 2017 goals: get at least 3 more master capes (start xp: invention done@21st Jan, mining done@2nd April & ranged 76/104mil done@June 20th) & all skills +40mil xp (done 24th August) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merre Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 I'm seriously considering trying with magic. I've killed some celestial dragons this week and it went very fast using the hardest fire attacks on momentum. Alot faster than ranging in momentum... Maybe it does the trick in this quest too 2016 goals: all skills +30mil xp - Completed this goal 11th December 2016 2017 goals: get at least 3 more master capes (start xp: invention done@21st Jan, mining done@2nd April & ranged 76/104mil done@June 20th) & all skills +40mil xp (done 24th August) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Why use momentum when you could use revolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merre Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Ok I managed to do it with magic in Momentum mode. Just used fire surge spell auto-attack and that went very easy.Pingouin7 if you would have read my post then you would have seen I'm against using abilities. Jagex made combat very unbalanced and I refuse to follow every weird change they make.I'm oldschool, so I play oldschool... 2016 goals: all skills +30mil xp - Completed this goal 11th December 2016 2017 goals: get at least 3 more master capes (start xp: invention done@21st Jan, mining done@2nd April & ranged 76/104mil done@June 20th) & all skills +40mil xp (done 24th August) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 EoC made combat unbalanced? Ranged and magic weren't even useful before EoC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmser Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Remind me to share my revolution-action bars with you in-game :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I read your post just fine.The thing with revolution is that it's not you actually using the abilities. You never specified if your problem with abilities was having to hit keys to use them every time or if it was their existence at all.Revolution fixes the first problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merre Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Hedge I don't agree at all. I hit L99 ranged before EOC and magic had it's uses vs certain enemies (like strykewyrms, metal dragons etc) because you could kill without being hit and the drops were worth the runes you spent.Also magic was uber for pvp'ing (although I never did that)Ranged on the other hand was perfect for safespotting alot of tasks and for the enchanted bolts, not sure why you say they weren't needed before.Practically every minigame was owned with magic (stealing creation, castle wars...) And ping, ok from your post I concluded you just didn't read it very well and assumed I should just use revolution to finish the quest. I just do not see the point of EOC tbh, if you only have 10'ish abilites where other games have +50. It makes it kinda restricted to fine the perfect setup... It's like wanting something good, but failing at establishing it. Fail update imo, which screws the dinosaurs among us who don't adapt easily :p 2016 goals: all skills +30mil xp - Completed this goal 11th December 2016 2017 goals: get at least 3 more master capes (start xp: invention done@21st Jan, mining done@2nd April & ranged 76/104mil done@June 20th) & all skills +40mil xp (done 24th August) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I just do not see the point of EOC tbh, if you only have 10'ish abilites where other games have +50. It makes it kinda restricted to fine the perfect setup... It's like wanting something good, but failing at establishing it. Fail update imo, which screws the dinosaurs among us who don't adapt easily :POkay but what does this have to do with not using Revolution? 1 In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Hedge I don't agree at all. I hit L99 ranged before EOC and magic had it's uses vs certain enemies (like strykewyrms, metal dragons etc) because you could kill without being hit and the drops were worth the runes you spent.Also magic was uber for pvp'ing (although I never did that)Ranged on the other hand was perfect for safespotting alot of tasks and for the enchanted bolts, not sure why you say they weren't needed before.Practically every minigame was owned with magic (stealing creation, castle wars...) And ping, ok from your post I concluded you just didn't read it very well and assumed I should just use revolution to finish the quest. I just do not see the point of EOC tbh, if you only have 10'ish abilites where other games have +50. It makes it kinda restricted to fine the perfect setup... It's like wanting something good, but failing at establishing it. Fail update imo, which screws the dinosaurs among us who don't adapt easily :PDo the math. Ranged wasn't worth using in any scenario, except maybe Armadyl GWD, which forced you to use ranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 EoC made combat unbalanced? Ranged and magic weren't even useful before EoC. Meh, I saw mage/range as addition to melee. Effictively you'd use all three styles in one. RIP Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 EoC made combat unbalanced? Ranged and magic weren't even useful before EoC. Meh, I saw mage/range as addition to melee. Effictively you'd use all three styles in one. RIP RSC in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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