God Of Lego Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 For christ's sake can't Jagex just admit defeat and replace EOC with this.EOC's implementation was garbage and the playerbase isn't the same as WOW.We don't want WOW-lite.This legacy mode, revolution mode, normal mode all in one game combat system is nonsensical and retarded.Why would I want to play a mode where I have to press 7 buttons to do the same as a mode that presses one button when equally balanced?This type of retarded thinking is WOW-esque where different classes require far more button pressing and complexity for the sake of complexity so some elitist reject can run around telling everybody how special he is because he has mastered the "hard" DPS class.Im sorry, but im not part of your 'we'. I think EOC has great potential in allowing variety for pvm encounters. You cant honestly say from a pvm standpoint that simply DPSing down a boss is fun. Whats fun is learning an encounter, knowing how to handle the situations and overcoming them. That is what makes pvm great and builds prestige in the pvm world. Thats the thing, EoC doesnt really expand on PVM. The monster itself has to be creative. Not the combat system. All EoC adds is the HP and the Abilities. At a boss. All these can be added, all abilities then do is DPS. So its not really that great of an expansion. Jagex lack creativity in fighting. They have 1 main boss maker. Thats pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 For christ's sake can't Jagex just admit defeat and replace EOC with this.EOC's implementation was garbage and the playerbase isn't the same as WOW.We don't want WOW-lite.This legacy mode, revolution mode, normal mode all in one game combat system is nonsensical and retarded.Why would I want to play a mode where I have to press 7 buttons to do the same as a mode that presses one button when equally balanced?This type of retarded thinking is WOW-esque where different classes require far more button pressing and complexity for the sake of complexity so some elitist reject can run around telling everybody how special he is because he has mastered the "hard" DPS class.Im sorry, but im not part of your 'we'. I think EOC has great potential in allowing variety for pvm encounters. You cant honestly say from a pvm standpoint that simply DPSing down a boss is fun. Whats fun is learning an encounter, knowing how to handle the situations and overcoming them. That is what makes pvm great and builds prestige in the pvm world.Thats the thing, EoC doesnt really expand on PVM. The monster itself has to be creative. Not the combat system. All EoC adds is the HP and the Abilities. At a boss. All these can be added, all abilities then do is DPS. So its not really that great of an expansion. Jagex lack creativity in fighting. They have 1 main boss maker. Thats pretty bad.They are making the efforts. They have chain abilities, AOE abilities and combos. Thats certainly a lot of progress from back when it was thinking about using a scimitar and two hander. They need to have more ability unlocks though. Maybe something on par to ancients in use. 1 Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uade Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Can't wait. I like the EoC but this looks awesome too. RuneCrafting addict Divination addict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I hope it's the same as the old method, though I have gotten used to using the NIS layout for personal preference. For me, If I want to play ability masher 9000, I play Final Fantasy XIV for that. I play Runescape for the simple click of a button and relaxing gameplay. None of this "chain-spam-ability effiency bullshittery" that RS has been lately, just relaxing simplicity. Popoto.~<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 An update I'm actually happy to see. 2 RIP Michaelangelopolous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Dan3HitU Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 My opinion? It's too late, I genuinely think that the people that like EoC now may leave the game (as I believe they may remove EoC in the future) and Jagex will be back at square-one. The reason I think they'll remove EoC:I just don't see how in say 3 years time from now they can keep bringing 2 types of updates for the game (one that works with Legacy and one that works with EoC) it seems far too much work and there needs to be just one, simple system in place otherwise in time, things could get very confusing. One example could be boss killing or quests, it could be easier to do a quest/beat a boss in EoC because of all the added abilities rather than Legacy mode. 1 [-- DYNAMIC SIGNATURES FOR RUNESCAPE 3 & OLDSCHOOL 2007 RUNESCAPE --] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aneron Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Can someone explain the difference between this and just using momentum? It looks like legacy mode is going to be integrated with EOC-world so are they planning on having people running around with 990 hp and others with 9000? So monsters do different amounts of damage to people in one mode or the other? I really don't understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartsimps Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Im so ready! I wonder how drygores/new content will work though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levells Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 All damage is an Illusion. Legacy users will see x/10 damage. Ex: General Graador has a hit of ~2200 for normal eoc, ~220 if using legacyNot sure about the difference between legacy/momentum in terms of normal damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Can someone explain the difference between this and just using momentum? It looks like legacy mode is going to be integrated with EOC-world so are they planning on having people running around with 990 hp and others with 9000? So monsters do different amounts of damage to people in one mode or the other? I really don't understand this.There isn't a difference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Only difference is legacy will have buffed damage compared to momentum, and the former won't be using abilities every so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 They should probably just replace momentum with it. No real need for it anymore. 1 I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 ????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 i enjoyed fighting opponents over mining them EOC is like mining them except you have to click a few more buttons to do it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Legacy is live on the beta servers. AND THE PUBLIC CHAT FILTER WORKS THERE. WHY NOT IN THE MAIN GAME???????? JAMFLEX JOBBLEPLX WE PAY WE SAY!!! 1 Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inner fears Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 really jagex ffs , you DO realise that theres more players than 2 crappy servers? ( no point to play atm unless they add more servers asap , lag spikes every 0.33 seconds ) tho , ags specs woot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Dash Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Or you could play on the servers provided to you. Or you could wait 2 days and play when there will be almost nobody playing on them. “I had a feeling we weren’t coming back from this fight when it began.”“Do you have any regrets?”“I don’t. It seems surprising, I know, but I wouldn’t change a thing. This is how it was meant to be.”“Huh, you never really notice how lovely the day is until you realize you’ll never see it again.”“Mmmhmm.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Dusting of ye ole R2H Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouwzie Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I really don't care for Legacy, all I want is the fantastic fixed interface. I absolutely love it. EDIT: No summoning tab though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I didn't realize we were playing SimCity 4. (Because you know, shitty servers and never seem to get it through their head big event = lots of users at once.) 1 Popoto.~<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wkw Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I didn't realize we were playing SimCity 4. (Because you know, shitty servers and never seem to get it through their head big event = lots of users at once.) you mean sim city 5 Runescape player since 2005 Ego Sum Deus Quo Malum Caligo et Barathum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylez Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Can someone upload some pictures? I can't get on til tonight >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Did they put the update for barrows equipment graphics yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 yeah. gmaul is very op, but eoc is moreso. impossible to compete with meta/zerk best drops (reasonably accurate/up to date): 1x Elysian Sigil (LS), 1x Arcane Sigil (cs), 4x Armadyl Hilt (solo at 100m, 100m, 50m, and 5m), 2x Saradomin Hilt (solo at 25m), 5x Draconic Visage (34m,1.2m,1.2m) and various cs/ls/ffa Nex splits. Drygore Drops: 7 Longswords, 3 Maces, 3 Rapiers, 3 Off-hand Rapiers, 5 Off-hand Maces, 3 Off-hand LongswordsROTS Shields: 12 Seismics: 16Ascension Crossbows: 6 Spider Legs: 10Countless Armadyl armour pieces, Saradomin amulets, Dragon Hatchets, and Fremenik Rings.Range~Herblore~Construction~Constitution~Defence~Farming~Magic~Attack~Prayer~Strength~Summoning~Slayer~Mining~Dungeoneering~Firemaking~Agility~Magic Mastery~Summoning Mastery~Cooking~Smithing~Fletching~Thieving~Hunter~Woodcutting~Fishing~Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Yeah but people will be pking on legacy-only worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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