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The Memory: "The fading memory of a long-dead race". Wasn't Guthix that race? regardless of ascension.

Guthix isn't really a Naragi anymore, just as Saradomin is no longer really a human.

 

Regardless if life status, she is a fading memory of a long dead race, yes.

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The Memory: "The fading memory of a long-dead race". Wasn't Guthix that race? regardless of ascension.

Guthix isn't really a Naragi anymore, just as Saradomin is no longer really a human.

 

Regardless if life status, she is a fading memory of a long dead race, yes.

 

 

I think the basic idea with that line of thought was if Guthix was a member then the race was really only less than 1 year dead gamewise. Although since he wasn't really Naragi since ascending then yes she is.

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Bandos called himself the last member of a long dead race... Though he technically wasn't a member of the race anymore.

 

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How do you get the things to make the weapons? Are they trade goods, or adventurer missions?

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Tsuba and kaseki are drops from the Cross Guard and Fossil Hunter voyages. You can potentially roll them in your standard voyages after you reach 6,000,000 distance.

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They are also (apparently) rewards from the first and second trio missions for the new adventurers.

 

Had my first successful clue mission today. Just as I reported earlier, if you want to be efficient, you need to tell the adventurer in the bar which island they should check(there is a left click option). The island is told by the map table (otherwise it will check a random island, ie 1/5 chance even when the voyage itself is 100%). There are a total of 24 clue voyages (4 each for 6 adventurers).

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nice might just buy a bond and get atleast ports running again for a few pvp goodies^^

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So... How long do people think it will take to max out all the port stuff again? Assuming you were already maxed pre-update.

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Most people have at least 50% of the resources. I had everything, but 4k steel for the bar, 9k azure for the workshop and the 25k azure for the portal. I would suspect it taking a month to get all scrolls. Honestly with reward enhancers and adventure rerolls you could do it fairly quickly.



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So I should replace all 4 of my telescopes with map tables?

 

Well, back to farming cherrywood and jade again lol.

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You can potentially roll them in your standard voyages after you reach 6,000,000 distance.

Anybody even had this yet? I haven't and I have two accounts with max distance.

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Yay, more ports stuff! Though I was hoping to finish what was there before the new set got released and didn't quite make it, I came fairly close.

 

 

 

 

The Memory: "The fading memory of a long-dead race". Wasn't Guthix that race? regardless of ascension.

Guthix isn't really a Naragi anymore, just as Saradomin is no longer really a human.

 

Regardless if life status, she is a fading memory of a long dead race, yes.

 

 

I think the basic idea with that line of thought was if Guthix was a member then the race was really only less than 1 year dead gamewise. Although since he wasn't really Naragi since ascending then yes she is.

 

I would argue that a race could be considered effectively dead even if it has living members, if it doesn't have enough to reproduce and sustain a viable population, which was certainly the case here.

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Yay, more ports stuff! Though I was hoping to finish what was there before the new set got released and didn't quite make it, I came fairly close.

 

 

 

 

The Memory: "The fading memory of a long-dead race". Wasn't Guthix that race? regardless of ascension.

Guthix isn't really a Naragi anymore, just as Saradomin is no longer really a human.

 

Regardless if life status, she is a fading memory of a long dead race, yes.

 

 

I think the basic idea with that line of thought was if Guthix was a member then the race was really only less than 1 year dead gamewise. Although since he wasn't really Naragi since ascending then yes she is.

 

I would argue that a race could be considered effectively dead even if it has living members, if it doesn't have enough to reproduce and sustain a viable population, which was certainly the case here.

 

 

Very true but it is irrelevant to the description of The Memory when it is a 100% stated lore fact of the game that a being ceases to be its origin race when it becomes a god. Armadyl isn't an aviansie, Sradomin is not a human. Zamorak is not a mahjaratt. Brassica is not a cabbage. Marimbo is not an ape and Guthix was not an Naragi.

 

So Guthix was the last living Naragi since Aagi died before he ascended, but he ceased to be a Naragi many thousands of years ago.

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Yay, more ports stuff! Though I was hoping to finish what was there before the new set got released and didn't quite make it, I came fairly close.

 

 

 

 

The Memory: "The fading memory of a long-dead race". Wasn't Guthix that race? regardless of ascension.

Guthix isn't really a Naragi anymore, just as Saradomin is no longer really a human.

 

Regardless if life status, she is a fading memory of a long dead race, yes.

 

 

I think the basic idea with that line of thought was if Guthix was a member then the race was really only less than 1 year dead gamewise. Although since he wasn't really Naragi since ascending then yes she is.

 

I would argue that a race could be considered effectively dead even if it has living members, if it doesn't have enough to reproduce and sustain a viable population, which was certainly the case here.

 

 

Very true but it is irrelevant to the description of The Memory when it is a 100% stated lore fact of the game that a being ceases to be its origin race when it becomes a god. Armadyl isn't an aviansie, Sradomin is not a human. Zamorak is not a mahjaratt. Brassica is not a cabbage. Marimbo is not an ape and Guthix was not an Naragi.

 

So Guthix was the last living Naragi since Aagi died before he ascended, but he ceased to be a Naragi many thousands of years ago.

 

I didn't know that being a god lost your original race also, fail! 

 

Would you class things like dragonkin non-race due to not being able to reproduce? Or just when lack of numbers cause this?

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Yay, more ports stuff! Though I was hoping to finish what was there before the new set got released and didn't quite make it, I came fairly close.

 

 

 

 

The Memory: "The fading memory of a long-dead race". Wasn't Guthix that race? regardless of ascension.

Guthix isn't really a Naragi anymore, just as Saradomin is no longer really a human.

Regardless if life status, she is a fading memory of a long dead race, yes.

I think the basic idea with that line of thought was if Guthix was a member then the race was really only less than 1 year dead gamewise. Although since he wasn't really Naragi since ascending then yes she is.

I would argue that a race could be considered effectively dead even if it has living members, if it doesn't have enough to reproduce and sustain a viable population, which was certainly the case here.

Very true but it is irrelevant to the description of The Memory when it is a 100% stated lore fact of the game that a being ceases to be its origin race when it becomes a god. Armadyl isn't an aviansie, Sradomin is not a human. Zamorak is not a mahjaratt. Brassica is not a cabbage. Marimbo is not an ape and Guthix was not an Naragi.

 

So Guthix was the last living Naragi since Aagi died before he ascended, but he ceased to be a Naragi many thousands of years ago.

I didn't know that being a god lost your original race also, fail!

 

Would you class things like dragonkin non-race due to not being able to reproduce? Or just when lack of numbers cause this?

It was stated that when a being ascends into 'godhood' they forfeit their soul in a sense. What is meant is that usually when a god is killed it is often very violent or a lot of energy is used or taken in the process which shreds the gods soul apart. The killing of a god is so ubrupt and fast that death is unable to salvage anything before it happens.

 

So in essence guthix right before death was still a naragi. The dragonkin are still mortal races. We learned that they hid themselves from the last great revision.



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I didn't know that being a god lost your original race also, fail! 

 

Would you class things like dragonkin non-race due to not being able to reproduce? Or just when lack of numbers cause this?

 

Dragonkin are a weird case. I think I'd need to know more about how many of them there are before deciding whether they qualify as a race or not - if there's just a handful, then probably not; if there's a few hundred, then maybe.

 

It's complicated by the fact that in sci-fi and fantasy, we often use "race" as a combination of "species" and "civilization". They're clearly a species, albeit a sort-of manufactured one, but I'm not sure I'd call them a culture or civilization.

 

(If you're asking about my "dead race" comment, the question would be whether or not I'd call them a dead race, not whether or not I'd call them a race at all. I'd hesitate to call them a dead race without more information about them.)

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Near as I can tell, there has been no sign of the gemstone kaseki or tengu tsuba yet. I am not-so-patiently awaiting mine, particularly the kasekis, as I already have that scroll finished and am excited to finally have an affordable magic weapon higher than tier 75.

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They are also (apparently) rewards from the first and second trio missions for the new adventurers.

 

Had my first successful clue mission today. Just as I reported earlier, if you want to be efficient, you need to tell the adventurer in the bar which island they should check(there is a left click option). The island is told by the map table (otherwise it will check a random island, ie 1/5 chance even when the voyage itself is 100%). There are a total of 24 clue voyages (4 each for 6 adventurers).

 

And how do you know which island to tell him to search ... ?

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Map tables. Apparently there is a limit on how many clues you can get based on how many you have, 4 being unlimited clues (i've stayed with 3 so far, keen to keep my pandoras box).

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Well, obviously you'd now have icons on the 3 new adventurers. And now, it's more important what totems you have. I'm currently using one pandoras box and 3 map tables, but it's likely I will go to 4 map tables when i'm done with most new storylines. Right now, the most important thing for spare voyages is just to guarantee you a daily random event, thus i'm mostly doing low azure voyages with them.

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My crew setup is the same as outlined above, except I have 122 MCS 35k captains lol, cba swapping out

And I already have 2-3 +1% traits for each respective captain, probably not gonna make one have all 4 multi-talented lol

 

I'm going to have to build 4 map tables as well, I still have 4 telescopes right now because I'm scroll hunting. I'm currently focusing on story mode + building upgrades, so I have terracotta focus and my 3 icons are the 3 new adventurers.

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