Blaze The Movie Fan Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Before the toolbelt was invented, you had to kill a zombie or a greater demon in Eterna dungeon to get a steel/bronze hatchet. Otherwise you couldn't finish the quest. But nowadays you can slice a tree with a dragon hatchet directly from your toolbelt, and yes even of Eterna, trust me I tried. So that leads me to believe that the part of that quest where you needed to kill a zombie or a greater demon is no longer there. So has that part of the quest been removed challenge-wise? I really am wondering about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 That's indeed true, you can skip the step with having to kill zombies for a hatchet since your toolbelt hatchet will work. I'd still say that's a small part of the quest personally. Hatchets are an uncommon drop so probably killing ~10 of them would be enough, and since they are low level I doubt it would be much of a challenge aside from relatively low level players. 1 "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 That's indeed true, you can skip the step with having to kill zombies for a hatchet since your toolbelt hatchet will work. I'd still say that's a small part of the quest personally. Hatchets are an uncommon drop so probably killing ~10 of them would be enough, and since they are low level I doubt it would be much of a challenge aside from relatively low level players. It might be a minor part but it's still something. The zombie and greater demons serve no purpose there anymore since nobody bothers killing zombies unless they don't care about awful drops, and there are countless better places to fight greater demons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Well, whether or not that one part removes the challenge of the quest is a rather subjective question, so I was just giving my input on the matter ;). But yeah I doubt anyone fights them down there. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 See the thing is getting the hatchet wasn't really the challenge. The challenge is in defeating the tree spirit with next to no gear, I'd say that element still holds up today especially as they have tightened up on several old tricks (ie taking materials to fletch/craft ranged gear after you arrive) Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 I'd say that element still holds up today especially as they have tightened up on several old tricks (ie taking materials to fletch/craft ranged gear after you arrive)Could you explain how they tightened up on that? I guess it could be that you can no longer bring logs and dragonhides to Eterna, but that wouldn't make sense since they don't count as armor or weapons. But then again Zamorak robes aren't either but these stubborn monks don't allow these for some reason. Might have to do with their blind hatred towards Zamorak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Unless something has changed again recently they added in a block that stops you making weapons and armour on the island. So that it no longer allows you to complete a bow or arrows or w/e Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Are you not allowed to say, bring a bunch of dragonhides to Entrana and make them into d'hide armor anymore? I'm genuinely curious because both the Wiki pages on Entrana and the Lost City quest itself seem to indicate that you can. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 Unless something has changed again recently they added in a block that stops you making weapons and armour on the island. So that it no longer allows you to complete a bow or arrows or w/e I guess that applies to the dungeon too? I guess that makes sense, except it does make me wonder if that's stopped the zombie and greater demon from dropping weapons/armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I brought spider silk and runes to Entrana just fine, and made a wand in the dungeon on my im account. 1 In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Unless something has changed again recently they added in a block that stops you making weapons and armour on the island. So that it no longer allows you to complete a bow or arrows or w/eLike saradomin mage said, I had no problem creating magic armor on the island, and I did it on my ironman account. The boss is a joke with magic/range because it can be safe-spotted. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKN Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I redid it on my alt account recently and I honestly expected it to be difficult like it was on my main account back in the day, but it wasn't at all. It was quite easy, maybe even too easy. "Be a rainbow in someone else's cloud"[spoiler=RS Stats] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddish DIY Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 It was never difficult, people just struggled due to lack of knowledge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 I guess that boss is also easy with melee as long as you bring a shit ton of sharks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I guess that boss is also easy with melee as long as you bring a shit ton of sharks.I tried that on my low level account and I seemed to miss a lot of the times fighting bare-handed (not sure if it was against that boss though), it looks to me like EOC made bare-handed fighting impossible (at least for low stats). Also making magic weapons/armour and bringing along runes is pretty easy :P so why not do that. http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 I guess that boss is also easy with melee as long as you bring a shit ton of sharks.I tried that on my low level account and I seemed to miss a lot of the times fighting bare-handed (not sure if it was against that boss though), it looks to me like EOC made bare-handed fighting impossible (at least for low stats). Also making magic weapons/armour and bringing along runes is pretty easy :P so why not do that. Nobody said you have to fight it bare handed, there is a demon and a zombie you can kill for a weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 are you gonna kill those barehanded or what? 1 In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze The Movie Fan Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 are you gonna kill those barehanded or what? Alright I will admit maybe that's difficult also. But there is a legacy mode. Normally I'm against it, but isn't fighting bare-handed easier there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddish DIY Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Yeah legacy should work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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