Ultimate HAM minigame guide, updated: 8-22-07

check out my other forgotten minigame guide:

 

 

 

http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=642014

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this is a guide how to thieve ham members...how to get your most profit

 

 

 

and what is the smartest way to work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. what is/are HAM

 

 

 

2.requirements

 

 

 

3.suggested outfit

 

 

 

4.first level

 

 

 

5.second level

 

 

 

6. rewards

 

 

 

7.bolts...?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. what is/are HAM

 

 

 

HAM is a group of npc's thats fighting against monsters (especialy cave goblins, if you've done the quest). these npc's are an exelent place to get your thieving lvl up, [wagon] they have also good things you can get, like clue scrolls(lvl1), and other stuff

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. requirements

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

at first a minimum thieving lvl of 15, but i suggest lvl 23 becaus you can get the big rewards(like diamond amulets)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

quests:

 

 

 

The Lost Tribe

 

 

 

(also death to dorgeshuun for the big money)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3.suggested outfit

 

 

 

pic:

 

 

 

 

 

 

wearing:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

• a full ham outfit(you will fail less with a full outfit)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  gloves of silence, (if you dont nhave them, use ham gloves)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  prayer book(for defence, you could also use an other shield, but with this i got the least damage)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  a stafe of your choice (suggest fire(for high alching) or air(for teleport))
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  NO ARROWS!!! you can put the arrows you thieve in it so that will save space
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  ring of wealth, if you can afford it...there are rumours it says it increases your chance of getting good items

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

inventory:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

• boots of lightnes(if you have a clue you need a lot of running)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  energy pot.not realy nesesary)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  tele runes
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  tele jewelry(lots of dueling for easy acces bank)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  high alch runes(only if you go to the second floor)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  a weapon with a special attack suggested(you can use the special attacks to kill guards....its a waste if you not use it. you can get the same things of killing them as if you thieve ham)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  some coins(always handy)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  chisel(you will get lots of low level gems, you can make them into bolt tips, if you dont the gem,s will take a lot of space)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4.first level

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

suggested spot is east from the middle cave, you can easely trap them there so they wont rune away and you can easely thieve them

 

 

 

(note: dont get with 2 or more on 1 trapped HAM member, then they can escape, yes....it is weird)

 

 

 

pic: (red spots are suggested, to trap the HAM member)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you have brought a weapon with special attacks use them on the guards

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5.second level

 

 

 

now this is the fun part.

 

 

 

to get there you need to have done the death to dorgeshuun quest

 

 

 

picklock the trapdoor at the red arrow:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

from these you wont get only the normal stuff but also bronze, silver, iron and steel keys which you can open chest with and get lots of jewelry

 

 

 

first thieve some guards there until you have some keys.

 

 

 

pick lock the door where you want to open the chest.

 

 

 

note: in some worlds the guards are NOT moving. so you wont get caught, if they do move kill them if they spot you picklocking the door.(no lockpick required)

 

 

 

here is a pick which chest is which key:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

note: dont pick the bronze door..there is a crack in the wall where you can easely pass.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you can make tons of money by highalching or enchanting them and selling them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6. rewards

 

 

 

• rewards you can get from both levels:
   
   
   
  LOTS OF THIEVING XP :D
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  item (keep? Y/N)(use? ...)
   
   
   
  feathers(Y)
   
   
   
  (if you also got logs, fletch them into arrow shafts and use with feathers)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  logs(Y/N(choose))
   
   
   
  (see feathers or tinderboxes)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  tinderboxes(Y/N)
   
   
   
  (use to burn logs)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  cowhide(N)
   
   
   
  (not worth it to take to bank)(unless you want to walk or tele a lot)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  iron ore(N)
   
   
   
  (not worth it to take to bank)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  coal(N)
   
   
   
  (not worth it to take to bank)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  buttons(N)
   
   
   
  (if you polisch them before you drop you get some crafting xp) thanks to Kaphias for the information on this
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  low level uncut gems(Y)
   
   
   
  (cut them to bolt tips to save space)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  bronze axe(N)
   
   
   
  (not worth it to take to bank/sell)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  bronze pickaxe(N)
   
   
   
  (not worth it to take to bank/sell)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  steel axe(N)
   
   
   
  (not worth it to take to bank/sell)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  steel pickaxe(N)
   
   
   
  (not worth it to take to bank/sell)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  iron axe(N)
   
   
   
  (not worth it to take to bank/sell)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  iron pickaxe(N)
   
   
   
  (not worth it to take to bank/sell)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  leather body(N)
   
   
   
  (not worth it to take to bank/sell)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  rusty sword(Y)
   
   
   
  (sharpen them at you house to get swords or longswords upto rune, or take them to tindel who will do it for you for a fee)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  damaged armour(Y)
   
   
   
  (repair it at your house, you can get a plate upto mith)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  clue(Y)(solve it!!)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  herbs(N)(only identify for xp, mostly they are guam, tarrorim or marrentil)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  bronze, iron arrows(Y)(put them in your arrow spot, saves space)

 

 

 

MONEY!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

only second level:(from the chests)

 

 

 

also:LOTS OF THIEVING XP

 

 

 

and MAGIC XP(for enchanting or highalching)

 

 

 

also money.....

 

 

 

item(enchant them to....)

 

 

 

gold ring(n/a)

 

 

 

gold necklace(n/a)

 

 

 

gold amulet(n/a)

 

 

 

saphire ring(ring of recoil)

 

 

 

saphire necklace(game necklace)

 

 

 

saphire amulet(amulet of magic)

 

 

 

emerald ring(dueling ring)

 

 

 

emerald necklace(binding necklace)

 

 

 

emerald amulet(amulet of defence)

 

 

 

ruby ring (ring of forging)

 

 

 

ruby amulet(strenght amulet)

 

 

 

diamond ring(ring of life)

 

 

 

diamond amulet(amulet of power

 

 

 

and cut gems upto diamond

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

things i suggest to keep or sell to other people rather than high alching:

 

 

 

(they are worth the waiting)

 

 

 

spahire ring(recoil)

 

 

 

emerald ring(dueling)

 

 

 

emerald necklace(binding)

 

 

 

ruby ring(forging)

 

 

 

diamond ring(life)

 

 

 

diamond amulet(power)

 

 

 

the other from the second lvl you may high alch or try to sell...selling gives more money, but takes time...its upto you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7. bolts????

 

 

 

as i already said...you get some gems which you can cut into bolttips and make bolts of them.

 

 

 

you probardly think why for the love (fill in a god of your choice) would i make those????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

example:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you have jade bolts and you enchant them, they have an extremely usefull special attack, they can stun people and monsters!!!

 

 

 

i tested iton CW and i have a not really high ranged lvl, but 1 of the 6 shots was an special attack(bolts have special random attacks, they dont consume power so you still can use your ddp or something else)

 

 

 

the rocks came down(the animation of the attack), and they couldnt move anymore(lol, hahaha, lol :XD: )so they get slain by other bolts with special attack, and they life happy for the rest of their life :XD:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and the fun part is...you can still wear shields.

 

 

 

all the time i get asked: what kind of special attack do you use, so i said bolts....every "victim" understand now the power of bolts..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so i really suggest to make bolts, i know they are not good to train with but in wildy or on CW theyre handy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you have comment or tips please post...will add them

Very good guide, 8/10. IS a very good think to do in HAM when you don't have nothing to do. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: First post :XD:

thanks!!!:D

Great guide! Especially about the second level, i had no Idea there was a mini-game there . . . I might ( erm.. will) go try it out! :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

edit : Change the topic name to "Ultimate HAM minigame guide" it will get more views :) (in my opinion)

Great guide! Especially about the second level, i had no Idea there was a mini-game there . . . I might ( erm.. will) go try it out! :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

edit : Change the topic name to "Ultimate HAM minigame guide" it will get more views :) (in my opinion)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you cant enter the 2nd lvl id you didn t do the quest...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you did you wonld know about it...

Yay for hams!

Great, simple, easy, cuts to the chase.

 

 

 

Much praise from me.

 

 

 

9/10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

=D>

 

 

 

~Leed

I never new HAM theiving was so profitable! 10/10!

 

 

 

=D>

i was going to make a guide on the very same thing.. :-k but i hate writing

great guide, i'll try the 2:nd level thing :D

also thanks...!!!!! :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

edit : Change the topic name to "Ultimate HAM minigame guide" it will get more views (in my opinion)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i will try :wink:

 

Great guide! Especially about the second level, i had no Idea there was a mini-game there . . . I might ( erm.. will) go try it out! :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

edit : Change the topic name to "Ultimate HAM minigame guide" it will get more views :) (in my opinion)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you cant enter the 2nd lvl id you didn t do the quest...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you did you wonld know about it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duh of course i did the quest #-o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I did not knew you could come back to steal keys, or if I knew I forgot.

Great guide I never knew there was so much to do at hams

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10/10 :thumbsup:

There were two guides about this before, they got locked because its already said in the tip.it guide to theaving.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also you have it all wrong, you should bring full HAM, dds/ whip, 1k natures, fire staff, some food depending on your level(high levels bring cakes) once you thieving a piese of jewlery, alchemy it then try to get another piece, if you do it right you will have around 1m+ per 1k natures you bring. Although it would take ALOT of time to get 1k jewery.

 

 

Great guide! Especially about the second level, i had no Idea there was a mini-game there . . . I might ( erm.. will) go try it out! :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

edit : Change the topic name to "Ultimate HAM minigame guide" it will get more views :) (in my opinion)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you cant enter the 2nd lvl id you didn t do the quest...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you did you wonld know about it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duh of course i did the quest #-o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I did not knew you could come back to steal keys, or if I knew I forgot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the quest only shows you how to sneak through, not that you can come back to steal valuable stuff. so thank you for the guide, i had no idea

thanks again...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There were two guides about this before, they got locked because its already said in the tip.it guide to theaving.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also you have it all wrong, you should bring full HAM, dds/ whip, 1k natures, fire staff, some food depending on your level(high levels bring cakes) once you thieving a piese of jewlery, alchemy it then try to get another piece, if you do it right you will have around 1m+ per 1k natures you bring. Although it would take ALOT of time to get 1k jewery.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

at first, .......this isnt locked...yet...and if i see all those good replyes it wont happen really fast

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

second, ..... i said a dds OR an other weapon with an good special attack

 

 

 

i suggest dds becaus you can use it 4 times...whip only one...and if youre a bit high you wont need the attack at all.

 

 

 

its just an waist ofthe spec. bar if you dont use it, that was the point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

third...yes, it might be profitable to high alch them immediately, but you will get tonns of more money if you enchant them and sell them (only look at the diamond amulet)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AND you get sÃÆÃâÃâóoooooooooooooooo much clues that you will be at the bank almost every trip....

I never knew this! :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10/10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

doing it now and got about 2 lvl 1 clue scrolls at a time with this in 1 day! :thumbsup:

at first, .......this isnt locked...yet...and if i see all those good replyes it wont happen really fast

Pokemama will, shes the one who closed the last ones.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

second, ..... i said a dds OR an other weapon with an good special attack

 

 

 

i suggest dds becaus you can use it 4 times...whip only one...and if youre a bit high you wont need the attack at all.

 

 

 

its just an waist ofthe spec. bar if you dont use it, that was the point.

Whip can hit as fast as a dds but higher, a whip also has 2 specs but that really don't matter because with a whip you hit 2 times as high as a dds so with the spec you would just hit what a whip would normaly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

third...yes, it might be profitable to high alch them immediately, but you will get tonns of more money if you enchant them and sell them (only look at the diamond amulet)

Thats to stay there for a long time and make money, it also takes time to enchant and sell, even if you sell to store if won't give you hi-alchemy value so your only option is selling to opther players whitch takes time even if you lower the price a few k.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AND you get sÃÆÃâÃâóoooooooooooooooo much clues that you will be at the bank almost every trip....

you can only have like 5 or so clues at once, once you get 5 or what ever number it is you don't ever get another clue until you drop one of them and have less then 4 or slove one and get less then 4.

 

 

 

AND you get sÃÆÃâÃâóoooooooooooooooo much clues that you will be at the bank almost every trip....

you can only have like 5 or so clues at once, once you get 5 or what ever number it is you don't ever get another clue until you drop one of them and have less then 4 or slove one and get less then 4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can only have 1 clue at a time..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But very nice guide! I might actually do it! =P~

captainkid.......at first...its already 4 days on...i think pokemama or an other mod would already closed it by now if its has to be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

second.ITS ONLY FOR THE SPECIAL ATTACK TO LET IT NOT GOING TO WASTE AND ITS SIMPLE A DDP BECAUS YOU CAN DO IT 4 TIMES,YOU MAY CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON< BUT I RECOM A DDP otherwise i would simply kill the guards, but then you willl not gt the keys....its only a thing so you wont get bored

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

third...some things (like amulets) may take a lot time to sell.

 

 

 

but dueling rings or rings of forging can you get rid of withing 15 minutes

 

 

 

(at least i sold 50 duelings and 35 forging....took me 12 minutes)

 

 

 

and ITS YOUR OWN CHOICE LIKE I WROTE. but i said this will get you the most money, but might take longer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fourth, max is 1 clue....so you have to get a lot to the bank AFTER you did the clue....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hope this is now finished, and we can res now.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but if you have tips, could you write them out?

 

 

 

if they are really better, in my opinion i will add them

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thanks

nice guide man! =D> keep up the work!

thanks!! :

good guide lol i never knew about this thx

some minor changes, and added a list for the second lvl which i suggest to keep(the others you may high alch)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

: thanks........

added a small note about bolts..... :