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    Ethics and Morality

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    Doublepost because

     

    http://news.yahoo.com/bin-laden-told-children-live-peace-west-163431838.html

     

    Slain Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden urged his children to go live peacefully in the West and get a university education, his brother-in-law said in an interview published Sunday.

    Zakaria al-Sadah, the brother of bin Laden's Yemeni fifth wife Amal, told Britain's Sunday Times newspaper that the Saudi-born extremist believed his children "should not follow him down the road to jihad."

    "He told his own children and grandchildren, 'Go to Europe and America and get a good education,'" al-Sadah told the Sunday Times.

    Al-Sadah said bin Laden told them: "You have to study, live in peace and don't do what I am doing or what I have done."

     

    Not sure how I feel about this - did the guy actually have a heart, or was he just protecting his own children (he used to use child soldiers and child suicide bombers, not often, but still)?

    Ethics and Morality

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    I must agree that child indoctrination is immoral. I don't care what you personally believe/want to believe, but children are incredibly impressionable and teaching them that your religion is correct and others are wrong is preying on their ignorance. I don't think it should be illegal or anything, I just think it's immoral to take advantage of them at that stage.

     

    I would say that the best approach would be to teach them about all different beliefs as well as yours, and why you chose yours over others. And let them make their own decision with that information.

     

    Skeptic, I disagree that it objectively limits the kids. If the kid is smart enough to be limited by it, then he is also smart enough to wind up choosing his own beliefs at some point rather than blindly following. If the kid isn't smart enough to choose his own beliefs, then he wasn't going to be limited in the first place now, was he.

     

    But then again, this also happens with all beliefs of the parents. They teach their kids about what they think in all aspects, religion, politics, psychology. It's not limited to religion.

    Ethics and Morality

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    You mean talk about the ethics of each?

     

    religious ideals - fine to have them and preach them, but not force them on others

    marijuana - if you think it should be illegal then you had better also think fast food, alcohol, and cigarettes should be illegal too

    prostitution - fine to dislike, but not to criminalize

    abortion - can't talk about this in one sentence

    polyamory - fine if you like it or don't, but it objectively should be legal

    cheating - i don't really care, i probably wouldn't do it. don't know how i'd feel if my partner cheated on me.

    Ethics and Morality

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    It's true - we each hold different moral values, and different systems to judge whether an action is moral or not. The objective of this thread is to find the most meaningful, practical system that could be applied to every day life to maximize welfare.

     

    An important part of doing so would be to clarify which systems we use - e.g. consequentialism, emotivism, divine command, etc.

     

    Could any of them be deemed superior to the other?

     

    Casuism.

    Looking for a Routine

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    I've seen plenty of progress pictures of victims of SS. Follow it for any good length of time and T-rex mode will happen. And assuming you are actually following SS only, you'll be doing plenty of squats and some deadlifting without a lot of upper body work.

     

    Not to mention that despite what bodybuilders may want/believe looks good, most people (especially girls) don't like T-rexes.

     

    Starting Strength is not called Starting Aesthetics for a reason.

     

    And if you're bulking (you cycle bulking and cutting, I assume you know this) then you eat a lot.

    Looking for a Routine

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    Please don't do SS. SS creates T-rexes and your goal is to look good. SS will not make you look good.

     

    1. Fat can't be spot reduced, you must run a caloric deficit. Which just means you have to find your maintenance and eat a little under that.

     

    2. Get a barbell. Find a push/pull routine. Good lifts in general for both health and aesthetics would be plenty of bench press, rows, deadlifts, some squats, overhead press, calf raise, shrugs. Get a pullup bar. Do pullups and chinups, preferably with progressive weights (in a backpack). You can also use the pullup bar to do hanging leg raises which are godly for abs. Abs are made in the kitchen though - you can do a thousand hanging leg raises or situps and not have a sixpack.

     

    Assuming you're looking for aesthetics, place a higher priority on lifts that target aesthetic muscles. Most likely meaning biceps (chin ups) pecs (bench press) and abs (diet, hanging leg raise). Don't neglect the others, just do less of them.

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