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  1. I mean Norway has the same travel ability as the UK despite not being in the EU

    Fair point. Though the more I read about it, the more it seems like 52% just voted for a lot of short-and long-term uncertainty because... immigrants or something?

     

    What was the leave side arguing for, anyway?

  2. or that travel between countries would be hindered for UK citizens wanting to travel the continent.

    This is apparently because of how much EU membership streamlines the process of living/traveling abroad, but I don't know the exact details. A lot of the people I've heard speak on the matter are worried about losing that if they voted to leave, especially the ones that had plans to study abroad. There might also have been something about how it'd greatly impact British people living abroad as well? Not entirely sure

  3. I feel like you missed the point of my example >_>

     

    If you assume personal responsibility for everything that bothers you, then you don't really need to worry about convincing other people to change. It's not about trying to convince people to become person A or person C; that's a waste of time and that's what B's and D's spend most of their lives doing. It's about focusing on transforming yourself into person A or person C.

     

    It takes a lot of conscious effort to focus on acting and thinking like A/C, since your natural response to unhappiness is usually to blame others for it instead of yourself. But it makes life a lot easier and less stressful in the long run. :)

    As much as you've missed the point of mine.

     

    Assuming personal responsibility for every little act of bigotry is exhausting. Do you know what that does to a person? Expecting others to do it long-term is unrealistic in just about every possible way. It's not a way for them to be happier, it's a way for the people who can't be bothered to filter themselves to be happier. It's selfishness, plain and simple. 

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    If you and the people you know are using them, that's fine, you're all adults and you can think for yourselves.

    Does that mean you disagree with Champion and Tylerelyt, who seem to be arguing that it isn't fine to use it consensually?

    I agree with them and would pretty much just repost Champion's comment if I wanted to mess with quote formatting more. I'm also not fond of it on a personal level for a lot of reasons, but I'll accept that other people don't have that baggage. Plus, they won't change their behavior no matter what other people tell them. Which leads into...

     

     

    You're preaching to the choir here. AFAIK nobody here is defending the word's usage in a malicious context.

    ...How usually they're ignoring the ways that their 'benign' content might actually be malicious, in the same way that you don't have to be a card-carrying member of the Klan to have prejudices. Everyone thinks they're Person A, but few people are willing to look at their biases. It's easier to shift that responsibility on to a hypothetical person C: someone who's generally willing to change so that they don't have to (which, from experience, is exhausting as all hell). People don't behave like that. If they believe they're not bigoted or even progressive, it's very hard to convince them otherwise, no matter how bad their behavior actually is - even the worst of the ones I've personally dealt with thought they were in the right and called it respect.

     

    Hypotheticals and ideal situations are fine, but from my experience Person A isn't much different from Person B if they don't listen and learn. They'll often refuse to do that at all if they're called out on their behavior.

  5. Context is everything. Walking up to a gay couple and calling them f*ggots isn't the same as Milo referring to himself as a 'Based F*ggot'. Removing 'homophobic slurs' from our vocabulary isn't going to do anything against homophobia, there are a million ways to be anti-gay without ever using a 'slur'. I'd even say a world where people joke about each others sexuality, race, etc. in a non-hateful way is far more tolerant than a world where everyone is constantly on edge because saying the wrong thing regardless of intention has severe social consequences.

    This is an easy argument to make when you have no stake in it. It's not your place to decide who gets to be offended by what, or to decide that a slur that still gets actively and casually thrown around as a slur isn't one, especially if it's not one that can be applied to you. It doesn't erase the context, and it doesn't magically make bigotry go away, much as people might think racism and sexism and homophobia are dead. It's basically the equivalent of patting yourself on the back for being progressive when all you've done is not actively gone on a shooting spree or put on a white robe or what-have-you, and buried your head in the sand when other people have.

     

    If you and the people you know are using them, that's fine, you're all adults and you can think for yourselves. But that doesn't change the fact that a pretty sizable portion of the population is going to keep using it as a slur, especially if it becomes acceptable to do so. And it definitely doesn't change the fact that it's still pretty much always used in a negative context even as a joke. Especially since we're still very much in a society where those negative messages are pretty strongly ingrained in everything even today. We're just not there yet and it's going to take a lot of self-awareness to get to the point where we can even begin to think about it - and that's painful and hard because it requires the sorts of introspection that makes us all look bad. Which is why we deny there's a problem in the first place, or make excuses, or move the goalposts.

     

    Plus, it's just kind of a dick move in general to refer to someone that way if they're not okay with it. It's absolutely your responsibility to know your audience before you tell a joke, that's like the most basic part of comedy. And that's the message here - not "don't say these words" but "know your audience and know what you're talking about". It's like... Fine, you're not using it as a slur. Can you guarantee that the next person won't? Can you guarantee that someone who hears you on the street will be as cautious? Can you guarantee that someone who's had it used as a slur against them is going to know the difference? Can you guarantee that people won't actually use the word hatefully and then try to write it off as a joke and complain that everyone's too easily offended or- wait, that's exactly what's happening today. Imagine that.

     

    For people that pride ourselves in personal responsibility, we're very eager to push our own responsibilities on to other people. If there are actual consequences for that sort of carelessness now, maybe things can improve.

     

    ...I need to make posts here that aren't heavy arguments or shitposts, maybe. Is there any point in making something in the art and media section anymore?

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    Because I follow US politics. I know that it isn't necessarily the case elsewhere, but here it is.

    I was hoping to steer clear of this shit show, but here we go...

    Because I can very clearly see who's supporting legislation designed to strip us of our basic right to exist in public places here.

    A little perspective here: some members of the GOP want to keep bathrooms single-gender. Muslims all over the world are literally murdering homosexual people. They are not remotely comparable.

    Because I've seen the statistics and murder rates and I really don't have the energy or willpower to dig them up tonight, but I've personally spoken to people younger than I am that supported the same and worse.

    I'm not even sure what this means. Some people are bigoted idiots? I agree, but there's a pattern here: homosexuality is illegal (in some cases punishable by death) in the vast majority of muslim countries. Once again; have some perspective. It doesn't mean all muslims should be demonized, but western/white/christian transgressions against the LGBT community in most cases amount to an annoyance at best, not literal murder and torture.

    Because the guy who was arrested bringing an arsenal of guns to LA Pride was a young white guy.

    And the guy who actually killed 50 gay men was a muslim who pledged allegiance to ISIS.

    Because the reason people are in the closet isn't rare chance of a Muslim terrorist, and it isn't a Muslim terrorist that's responsible every single time someone is murdered or pushed to suicide for existing out in the open.

    Uh, how many people are actually murdered for being gay in the states? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I haven't seen any evidence it's anything other than extremely rare. Yet in the middle east, people are regularly murdered (or put to death "legally") for being gay.

    If that's not representative of Trump's supporters on Reddit, good for them. I'll believe it when I see it. Especially when the shooter himself was apparently not motivated by religion whatsoever (and didn't even practice), according to his family.

    He pledged allegiance to ISIS, shouted "Allah Akbar" at the cops, and was proud of the Tsarnaevs. But it had nothing to do with religion, right? Give me a break.

     

    Let me google that for you. I'm sorry that it's nothing concise or organized but as I said earlier, I really do not want to look at these statistics again. I don't really even want to reply again but god knows you're not going to look it up for yourself. And yes, things are worse in the middle east. This isn't about the middle east, just that the right cares more about exterminating Islam than the dead. The shooter was as American as I am, and by some accounts (read: people that knew him), probably less religious. But yes, this is all a minor annoyance at best and I'm just overreacting because... politics, probably. Or I'm inherently excitable. But not because I've been seeing this bullshit for a long time and only avoided the literally murderous part of it myself through pure dumb luck.

     

    [bleep] off. You wouldn't give a shit if the shooter didn't justify your own beliefs. This lets everyone look the other way because 'hey we're not as bad as we could be'. Never mind that earlier this week someone put an actual bomb in a Target bathroom in the name of public safety. But all terrorists are Muslims, so we can't bother with that. And did you even know about conversion therapy? Which is pretty explicitly torture, that the vast majority of the country has yet to ban?

     

    You're not a devil's advocate, you're just a bigot who didn't bother to do the research. And yes, I'm mad, because I very much like not being dead because I showed affection in front of the wrong person - which, according to the shooter's family, is what motivated him more than a religion he didn't seem to be practicing (was he fasting at all?). I don't doubt that if the LA shooter succeeded that the right would be at best defending him as a poor mentally ill person who would have been stopped if it weren't for California's gun laws, if they didn't quietly celebrate him.

     

    Edit: jesus [bleep] Obfuscator DO THE DAMN RESEARCH. Or cite your sources. This is ridiculous. You're literally making things up. If this is what passes for intelligence and maturity on this site I want nothing to do with it. It's not a difference of opinion or a debate or anything of the sort anymore, it's just you spouting bigotry in an attempt to justify more bigotry. What the [bleep] even happened to this site

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  7. How on earth can you say conservatives are the biggest threat to LGBT peolpe when a islamic terrorist just gunned down 50 people at a gay bar and further attacks have been promised?

    Because I follow US politics. I know that it isn't necessarily the case elsewhere, but here it is.

    Because I can very clearly see who's supporting legislation designed to strip us of our basic right to exist in public places here.

    Because I've seen the statistics and murder rates and I really don't have the energy or willpower to dig them up tonight, but I've personally spoken to people younger than I am that supported the same and worse.

    Because the guy who was arrested bringing an arsenal of guns to LA Pride was a young white guy.

    Because the reason people are in the closet isn't rare chance of a Muslim terrorist, and it isn't a Muslim terrorist that's responsible every single time someone is murdered or pushed to suicide for existing out in the open.

     

    If that's not representative of Trump's supporters on Reddit, good for them. I'll believe it when I see it. Especially when the shooter himself was apparently not motivated by religion whatsoever (and didn't even practice), according to his family.

  8. The Liberal Media coverage has been far worse. It seems the modern left would rather defend Islam than protect LGBT people.

    And the modern right would rather attack Islam than accept that LGBT people exist in the same capacity as anyone else. It's more sanctimonious for the right to pretend to have even a shred of concern for the victims when they themselves were the biggest threat to them before today, and probably will be again tomorrow.

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  9. I was making plans to see Allison Weiss and Soupy in Orlando with my sister tonight. If you guys follow the "what are you listening to" thread, you know I'm a pretty big Allison fan and my sister is a huge Soupy fan, but we're terrified of going to the show tonight. If you guys aren't aware, Allison is gay and there will be a lot of LGBT people there, so I'm just hoping everyone who makes it there stays safe. Security will be doubled and everyone will be patted down, but I still have a really bad feeling about it.

    Hoping for the best.

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    I need to use you guys as a litmus test. Is it passive-aggressive to write a letter with "PLEASE BE MORE CONSIDERATE" in handwritten all caps?

    I feel like that's just normal-aggressive.
    Yeah there's nothing really passive about all caps and underlines.

    At best it's like normal aggression that's trying to be passive

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    And somehow stuff like collecting vampyre dolls can be a comp req.

    I think the main issue is that these cases are time-limited comment so I don't know how they would handle reqs...

     

     

    If you didn't play in may 2016 you can never comp....ever.

     

    Problem solved!

     

    It makes the cape more exclusive, and is therefore automatically a great idea. I am in favor.

  12. Watching 'Red' right now. Re-reading the comic it was based on last night reminded me of how good it was. If you haven't seen it, I have six words for you: Bruce Willis, John Malkovitch and Morgan Freeman. If that doesn't make you want to see it, then you've exposed your true identity alien robot from outer space! :P

     

    Edit: oh yes, I almost forgot. Two more words: Karl Urban. Resist now robot shapeshifter. ;)

    Helen Mirren though

  13. You can't even really call it a spoiler.

     

     

    Everyone and their mother knew that he wasn't going to stay dead.

     

    I mean, true, and they basically spoiled it themselves in the several months prior to the release. Considering how nobody would stop talking about it then, I can't imagine they would do so now.

     

     

    That feeling of surprise is pretty fun though, at least if the work is actually worth it. A well-written twist will still have an impact even if you know it's coming, but it could maybe have more of one if you've really immersed yourself into trying to figure out what happens next.

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