"120m accounts registered to date, including 8.5m active accounts/month (5m every fortnight) and around 1m premium subscriptions (paying roughly £3.20/$5 a month) " This is what you're source says so let's go with that for the sake of argument. 7.5 Million F2pers vs. 1 Million P2Pers. And so what if PTP players play more on average than F2PErs. Both own ACTIVE accounts. F2P players are both a great advertisement for Runescape and an enormous source of potential revenue. F2P deserves tweaks in the fundamental mechanics of combat(Namely magic), so all of those active F2P players can enjoy the game more. I don't see where you're taking this, Compfreak. It's clearly evident, whatever your philosophy about F2P updates is, that Jagex values F2P as a source of revenue and they do things CONTRARY to what you predict they should. After all, they implemented corrupt items into F2P just recently to give players a taste of membership. Yes, Compfreak, you just implied that Jagex does not have a sound sense of finance by claiming that any F2P updates are nonsense, and that's a hilarious thing to say. When you look at how successful Jagex has become, it's fairly clear that they know what the hell they're doing in terms of profits. I'm sure glad you're not at Jagex to give them advice. Runescape might have died a while ago if that happened :(. Man, I'm really enjoying this conversation. P.S. "And at a cost of only several million GP per hour. Very practical, I'm sure PKers make a fortune." There is nothing more satisfying than using your own argument against you from our previous lovely thread. Remember what you talked about with not needing the staff of Zuriel for every moment of the fight, and how you could preserve it for weeks on end? Yeah, that argument. The very same applies to Corrupt scims. You only need to take them out when the opponent is low on health. I have many Pker friends who have attested to how long the scims last when used properly. Also, you can protect the corrupt scimitar via prayer, if you were going to use that argument. Corrupt is very powerful in F2P, and magic and ranged were left out, as usual. P.S. And by the way, that 70 strength argument you keep making is really invalid. We both know that Runescape players don't train only melee or only magic or only ranged. You could have 2 players with identical combat stats using different types of combat. If one were using magic, he'd be at a disadvantage. Then the essence of the argument does not merely come to levels.