unkn0wnwarrior

Please, do us all a favor and never type like this again... And this is far from worst idea... I actually think this one is good. Maybe not every item, but the ones that look sort of weapon-like. Harpoon, hammer, knife... Those should be wieldable for sure.

Yes, lets throw some snowballs! Skip the snow damage, lets just throw 'em! Most people wear armor so snowballs wouldn't really affect them... We gotta keep it somewhat realistic while we make it fun.

Who said anything about "frequent updates"? All that is now being suggested is giving F2P a new quest or two. As for the demo thing, its not, P2P is the expansion. And I already know they aren't going to give us more quests, but it would still be nice.

if his parents wont let him its not jagex fault, f2p is lucky they get this game for free anyway So let me guess... You are a member? Typical view for a member. Without F2P, runescape loses its population without new members joining. It dies. Jagex goes bankrupt. End-o-story. With F2P people get a chance to try it out, see if they like it, if not they quit, Jagex barely notices. If they like it, they continue, most eventually buying a membership. Those that don't contribute to the income through ads. Either way, Jagex gets money, even if it is a little less than members provide. What did he say wrong? Are you saying that the statement "If parents won't let them pay, it isn't JAGeX's fault" is false? So... does JAGeX have to BEG parents to let their kids pay for membership? As for F2P is lucky to get a free version, yes; F2P is lucky. No one is denying that F2P holds quite an importance in Runescape, but neither can you deny that it is lucky that Runescape has an F2P version. Remember, most other MMORPGs of any sufficient quality are not free at all. However, even if we agree F2P holds quite some importance, explain to me why this justifies F2P getting updates. Do you really think F2P getting more stuff will attract more people? I doubt it. People don't just play F2P and immediately see all that it has to offer: it is a gradual process. And those who are able to pay for membership would generally be convinced to get it before they have finished through all the contents of F2P. Giving more stuff to F2P will not increase in influx of members by much, although some bitter members may leave. There is nothing in it for JAGeX except for kindness, so it is highly unlikely they would update F2P to any great degree. If you read my post, I mention nothing about parental permission. I was simply showing why we are not LUCKY we get to play for free. Look at what you are typing. So we are seriously NOT lucky to be able to play Runescape for free? What would your definition of lucky be then? Having JAGeX release the game totally free, in one huge selfless act? Don't you think that is a bit greedy, not to mention selfish, of you? And I understood you had nothing against parental permission. I just caught the handle and decided to make the most of it. Force of habit. Now you are blowing my comments completely out of proportion. All I have said is that we, as F2P, are not LUCKY to get a free version, because, without F2P, Runescape would not be as popular.

I must agree about the autoer thing and also the chances of F2P receiving maples, but it would still be nice. Off Topic: I love your sig, jwrm22, very nice.

if his parents wont let him its not jagex fault, f2p is lucky they get this game for free anyway So let me guess... You are a member? Typical view for a member. Without F2P, runescape loses its population without new members joining. It dies. Jagex goes bankrupt. End-o-story. With F2P people get a chance to try it out, see if they like it, if not they quit, Jagex barely notices. If they like it, they continue, most eventually buying a membership. Those that don't contribute to the income through ads. Either way, Jagex gets money, even if it is a little less than members provide. What did he say wrong? Are you saying that the statement "If parents won't let them pay, it isn't JAGeX's fault" is false? So... does JAGeX have to BEG parents to let their kids pay for membership? As for F2P is lucky to get a free version, yes; F2P is lucky. No one is denying that F2P holds quite an importance in Runescape, but neither can you deny that it is lucky that Runescape has an F2P version. Remember, most other MMORPGs of any sufficient quality are not free at all. However, even if we agree F2P holds quite some importance, explain to me why this justifies F2P getting updates. Do you really think F2P getting more stuff will attract more people? I doubt it. People don't just play F2P and immediately see all that it has to offer: it is a gradual process. And those who are able to pay for membership would generally be convinced to get it before they have finished through all the contents of F2P. Giving more stuff to F2P will not increase in influx of members by much, although some bitter members may leave. There is nothing in it for JAGeX except for kindness, so it is highly unlikely they would update F2P to any great degree. If you read my post, I mention nothing about parental permission. I was simply showing why we are not LUCKY we get to play for free.

if his parents wont let him its not jagex fault, f2p is lucky they get this game for free anyway So let me guess... You are a member? Typical view for a member. Without F2P, runescape loses its population without new members joining. It dies. Jagex goes bankrupt. End-o-story. With F2P people get a chance to try it out, see if they like it, if not they quit, Jagex barely notices. If they like it, they continue, most eventually buying a membership. Those that don't contribute to the income through ads. Either way, Jagex gets money, even if it is a little less than members provide.

perfectly said, jagex spolied them with all the new updates, now they think they "deserve" an update every couple months. Those updates were a 1 time thing stop asking for things you dont deserve. I agree there will be no new skills and no mini-games for F2P. Why? Because we do not NEED them. However, I also believe that F2P does need some of the other things suggested. Bank space, being the major one.

One thing Jagex wants is for runescape's inflation to stop. If prices drop, inflation becomes far less of a problem.

But I could have SWORN the post said "quests" not "quest". :-k Anyways, I think F2P could use some updates, but you have to think about this on a larger scale. Be happy that there even IS a free Runescape available to play. Since there are so many people paying to play already, Jagex could easily make it ALL have to be paid for and you only get to play the game for free for a few days to try. Not to mention if they did that, they'd be able to expand their servers with the new profits, make RS better, etc. etc. My point is that you have to be greatful for the kindness Jagex has already shown to you, allowing you to play their game at absolutely no charge whatsoever. Beggers can't be choosers, y'know? :? This has been said many times and it has been shot down just as many. If Jagex dropped F2P, no new members would join. (Who wants to pay for a month of a game they might not even like?) As members quit, no new members come in to replace them. Runescape ultimately fails. Now you should see why F2P has not been removed.

Even though I'm F2p, I agree. I think the only thing F2p needs is a new quest. And a lot less "noobs". And please, your spelling, creator this thread, hurts my eyes. Honestly.....5 bucks is nothing. I spend almost that on lunch when I have to buy school lunch. Off topic: The only reason I'm not a member is I can't get the 5 bucks to Jagex. Or the 60 bucks. Or whatever. $5 is nothing to you... Some families cannot afford to waste $5 on a game. The main reason I am not a member is because I have to choose between meals and the "expansion set" of runescape. (By the way, I'm in Canada so it is about $8 or more, depending on how I would have to pay.)

Wow... You just summarized the point of this thread. We can burn them but not cut them! Thats why they want them toadd trees to F2P. They have already established that we can burn and not cut. I support this idea.

If Jagex doesn't care about F2P, they in turn don't care about runescape. Face it, F2P is not a demo, P2P is an expansion. F2P is the game. According to what you say, if F2P was completely eliminated, Jagex would make just as much money, which is a blatant lie. If Jagex dropped F2P, nobody new would play because they don't want to pay for a game and find out they don't like it. As members slowly quit, the Runescape population would die and Jagex would go out of business. And you think Jagex cares very little about F2P??

All the originator wanted to make was arrows, so it would only take a few minor changes... However, I am not sure if this idea would work out so well... Members would get angry, non-members would get greedy... I think this should probably be avoided.

I assume you mean every 3 hours of playing? If not, then its way too much... I'd make it at least weekly... And increased rate for members is stupid. So you pay... They still want you to work for your money. And the idea as a whole, isn't bad, but realistic bank interest rates would be better...

F2P is not the demo, P2P is the expansion set of sorts... no actually it is a demo If it were a demo, it would have level limits in each of the skills or a limit on how long you can play without paying for members... And at the very least, it wouldn't receive the updates that we do get on occasion. And I still agree that F2P needs lvl 40 mage armor, though I have come to realize that nothing we need will be granted...

F2P is not the demo, P2P is the expansion set of sorts...

Actually, yes I would. By giving free players something, you show that you respect what they have done for you. Without F2P, Jagex can kiss their sponsors goodbye. Without any updates, F2Pers will either quit or get members, but many of them, like myself, don't have the money for members.

This wouldn't be a bad idea to add to the game... Whether it be members only (as it likely would be), or if it were for all players.

You actually have it backward... F2P is the game, P2P is the expansion set of sorts... As for the matter at hand, it would be nice to be able to fletch as an F2Per, but I agree with the members on this one... If we were to get some fletching abilities, there would be demand for more, and more, and more... The balance of power wouldn't change much when you think about it, but if Jagex caves in on this one, they will start feeling that they have to cave in on other ones and then it would be chaotic...

I must agree that based on lvl-requirements, it only makes sense to have a lvl 40 mage armor... Though it won't happen, at least not in the near future, I must say I like the idea.

What year did the game start? I started either 2000, or 2001, depending.

He said it would change as does the place it is based. So worlds based in Australia will become winter in australian winters. Worlds in Toronto will turn to night at a certain time in Toronto.

Count me in. I had enough trouble storing everything before the latest random event clothings came along. ~Dougymc

it costs $7 where i live (canada- so around $5 american, give or take)