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    Back to the thing that unites us, Tip It has taken away Channel Operator Privledges on IRC.

     

    This has been corrected. Next time you run into something like this please contact the IRC staff in #runescape (or forum staff that know who to direct it to) so it can be corrected. It was an artifact of the RuneScript network configuration from before the server was linked.

  2. Also I'll say I use dreamweaver really just for the colored code and the preview, I don't use any of the automated functions.

    Don't ask how I found my way into the gallery of all places, but I had to reply to this. If you're coding by hand and just want syntax highlighting, use Notepad++ or EditPlus. Just set up Filezilla to allow you to edit directly on the server (it will watch for changes and upload on save) so you don't need Dreamweaver's preview. I'm fairly sure it has that ability anyway, I know WinSCP does. Then you can test compatibility in FireFox/Opera/IE directly.

  3. On topic;

     

    Interesting to see indeed, I'm asuming you can zoom in on the graph to see it hour to hour, as well as zoom out to see it all on a monthly scale? If this is the case, some of the guys at the editorial panel might have a few requests in the future for you :)

     

     

     

    Keep up the good work, and if you need a host, let me know :)

     

    As mil already posted, this is old news. My graphs have data at 15 minute intervals going back to May 2007 in the database (though you can't view it atm because of the 1 year limit on the graphs that I never bothered expanding).

  4. Can we try and steer the upgrade period away from next weeks Rs update? The updates are probably one of the forums busiest times, and i know alot of people rely on these forums for their information on all the new updates.

     

    Trying to avoid busy spots is useless. You either update during the week and risk being down when an RS update hits because Tuesday is not 100% guaranteed (as happened this week, it was wednesday), or you do it during a weekend when all the children are home and actually trying to use the update from that week.

     

     

     

    A few days of pain isn't helped by playing thread the needle between busy periods in the week. Just get it done and over with when staff are ready and able to make the switch.

  5. You CAN access other peoples networks via the web and not just by plugging in. The methods involved in doing this are not dissimilar to those used in a proxy, but not idnetical.

     

    Did I say you can't access other networks via the web? No, I didn't. I'm referring to your repeated posts about firewalls and "direct" connections being posted in a thread about DDOS attacks, which are always distributed, remotely executed attacks. This is why everyone is calling you an idiot. Once again, this has nothing to do with proxies. Why you brought that up is beyond me.

     

     

     

    I NEVER said it hides your ip or anything else. I said it stops people being able to READ your ip BECAUSE they are directly on your network. This is perfectly valid

     

    Hiding and "stops people being able to read your ip" are the same thing. If it's unreadable, it's hidden by definition. I then have to ask how you can "stop people being able to read your ip" when they're directly on your network like you just said. A firewall doesn't do this, if they're "on your network", they're past said firewall. :lol:

     

     

     

    Again I NEVER said anything about hiding your ip.

     

    See the above definition.

     

     

     

    I NEVER said it hides ips. It DOES however stop people getting directly onto your network whihc blocks ONE way of reading you ip. I didnt say it helps prevent a DDOS attack.

     

    I'm getting tired of repeating this. You do not need access to the network behind the firewall to get an IP address. Any residential installation will have a modem of some kind which is then connected to the firewall (assuming it is a hardware installation). The IP address is assigned to the modem, which just so happens to be outside the firewalled network and thereby revealing the IP address of the modem. You could argue there's a firewall in front of the modem, but that just as easily negates the entire argument because there will be yet another IP address in front of the firewall routing traffic to it which is just as good as anything behind it.

     

     

     

    I NEVER said it makes you 100% secure. I NEVER said no-one can get your ip off it.

     

    It's perfectly valid that you are MORE likely to get you're ip taken for thing such as a DDOS attack on obscure sites made for the sole purpose. So using only mainstream sites can help to an extent.

     

    Yes, backpeddle on your own advice after I prove you're no more safe here than anywhere else. If someone wants to harvest IPs of Tip.It users to attack it's going to happen. You go ahead and keep telling yourself I can't do anything with the IPs my server logs contain if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

     

     

     

    You're comment refers to clicking links to non-trusted sites whihc goes totally agaisnt what I was advising. This can help.

     

    I suggest you acquaint yourself with the purposes of the Keylogger forum. It was implemented with the purpose of dissecting keyloggers posted ON TIP.IT with the intention of helping users remove any infection they gained by clicking the links before a mod removed them. Good try though.

     

     

     

    This is what I've been saying all along you complete [wagon].

     

    Sweet, I have 4 wheels now. :lol:

     

     

     

    My points I posted are ways to HELP avoid them getting you're ip, they in no way claim to be flawless and I acknowledge this early on. Just because something isn't flawless doesn't make it wrong.

     

    Um, yes it does make it wrong. Flawed information is wrong information. Arguing that "2+2=5" is both a flawed argument and wrong for anyone that isn't working on an advanced math degree. Add this to the fact that ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOU POSTED HELPS AVOID IP DISCLOSURE and you have the foundation for someone's ego getting destroyed.

     

     

     

    They ARE flawed and they WILL NOT 100% stop people getting your ip as this is impossible

     

    Thank you for negating everything you claimed about added protection above.

     

     

     

    , but they CAN and DO help avoid some ways people can grab your ip.

     

    Maybe I spoke too soon. Same crap, new wrapper. I think we need a lock.

  6. You can connect to someone else network via the worldwide web, in a way not dissimilar to how proxies work you don't have to be in range or plugged in.

     

    Duh. That's what everyone saying you're wrong has been saying, but your argument is so convoluted and broken nobody knows exactly what you're saying. This also has nothing to do with "how proxies work" (once again demonstrating you're talking out your [wagon]).

     

     

     

    Equally a method of getting your IP, all be it unlikely for any serious DDOS attacker, could be to infect your system with something that reports back to them. Unlikely cause it beats around the houses, but never the less possible. This can also be diverted by a firewall.

     

    Does your firewall block port 80 (along with the roughly 64000 others)? Do you strictly define what can and can not pass for legitimate traffic? Do you know that said virus/trojan isn't capable of hiding information inside what looks to be legitimate traffic? Your entire argument is flawed because you clearly don't understand what a firewall is actually for or what it does.

     

     

     

    My entire firewall point was a tiny passing issue as a general basis of advice to at least attempt to avoid some the basic ways people grab you're IP (whihc incidentally encompass a few obscure ones). It's been blown out of all proportion by people sticking other things into it to try and say I was wrong, when I wasn't. And now by people having to return to a dead issue with blatant flame baiting and further basing it off things I haven't said and by implying I made some huge point about firewall will save all.

     

    And once again, this is the entire problem. A firewall does not even attempt to "avoid the basic way people grab you're IP". It physically can't do this while maintaining communication with the outside world. If you want a firewall installed while still being able to do anything at all online it has to reveal your IP address.

     

     

     

    Hopefully this "argument" will die out now, but as a finisher I'd just like to return to what my original point was, but with some extended wording since people are so insistent that it can't be "kept simple"

     

     

     

    For those out there concerned about getting this kind of attack who aren't so tech savvy:

     

    It won't die because you're intent on spreading misinformation. A firewall doesn't stop IP discovery. It doesn't stop a DDOS attack. It doesn't help people that already don't understand how the topic at hand actually works. You continuing to repeat your misguided and wrong information doesn't make it correct and DEFINITELY doesn't help those that truly don't understand what this topic is actually about.

     

     

     

    1) Make sure your network is protected, usually via a firewall built into you're router or modem. This does block out some simple, though some what obscure ways people could get your ip. Doesn't do a huge amount as using the net puts your ip out there, but even so worth having regardless to save you from keyloggers and such-like.

     

    Again, none of the above help a DDOS, you know, the thing the topic started out talking about until you started spreading BS. The only thing a firewall really helps as far as RS players are concerned is dropping inbound port scans looking for vulnerable machines. It doesn't hide IPs, it doesn't stop a virus from phoning home, it doesn't magically make you secure after you install it.

     

     

     

    2) Try to avoid chat servers and forums with/run by people you do not trust. Every chat service and forum very obviously monitors your ip, though this info is usually restricted to moderators on non-main stream sites moderators can easily be collecting ips for DDOS attacks.

     

    For the 50th time, you don't know what you're talking about. Using known sites does not protect you. The signature in my post? Loaded off my server. My avatar? Same thing. I now have the IP of everyone viewing this thread in my server logs. And here you thought Tip.It was safe. The same goes for "trusted" chat systems. Tip.It's IRC server hides IP addresses by default. It's still possible for non-staff to get an IP out of people with some simple social engineering if you know how (and yes I do know, I run the place).

     

     

     

    3) Be careful with links you're clicking. Non-mainstream RS sites strangers link to can easily be embedded with keyloggers or ip harvesting coding. Keep to tip.it, runeHQ etc and you can dodge most of this kind of attack.

     

    So can links posted on trusted sites. Why do you think we have the Keylogger support forum in Tech and Computers? Links get posted, people click them before a mod is notified, game over. Another useless piece of "advice".

     

     

     

    4) If someone is planning to attack you there is very little you can do other than contact your ISP to get a new ip address. There isn't really any effective way of blocking such attacks

     

     

     

    5) No matter how careful you are its still extremely easy for people to get your ip as its public as soon as you use the internet.

     

    Hey! Something correct! It only took 4 pages and multiple other people already saying this though...

     

     

     

    Better?

     

    Nope. Still spewing the same wrong explanations.

  7. You can quite easily connect to another network across the web and not via direct lan connectivity.

     

     

     

    And i explained very early on what the point was and that I had kept it simple for the non-tech savvy.

     

     

     

    The whole issue has been everyone inferring things into what I said, fair enough querying my first post where it kept it very basic. But after I explained and it made explicitly clear the firewall point was referring to the method of direct (or indirect via the web) connecting to a network and thus being able to read off their ip with ease. And in no way related to blocking the attack, blocking you're ip or other internet activities; yet every argument thrown up added in how I was "wrong" because there are other easy ways to get the ip on the net etc, which was never an issue.

     

     

     

    Keeping it simple for the non-tech savvy is exactly why crap like this gets spread through the community. You have to be blunt, clear and know WTF you're talking about in the first place if you're going to go trying to "calm the masses". If you aren't, they brush it off and keep on going. Bringing up a direct, wired connection in a discussion about DDOS attacks is beyond stupid. Further muddying the waters by flipping your definition of direct makes the situation more unclear and undermines your own point. Yeah, I can DDOS your LAN if I plug into it, but that isn't anything close to what is being talked about here, so please, shut up and go home before you do more damage to the already basic understand most RS players have of the internet.

     

     

     

    This, just like the CastleWars "lower IP makes you faster" claim, is nothing more than someone thinking they found some new activity, spreading the rumor and the stupider people in the community latching onto it and spreading it like it's the truth because they think they know what they're talking about. DDOS has been around longer than many RS players have been alive. Sitting here arguing over the finer details because you think you know how to protect everyone isn't going to help a damn thing. If anything it will only make it worse by giving them yet another boogy monster to worry about while they play.

     

     

     

    There is nothing you can do to "hide" your IP address. It's public information. The fact your modem is turned on makes your IP public. The firewall you installed (software or hardware) doesn't hide it. You trying to be smart by not visiting links doesn't hide it. You want to hide it? Unplug your modem and go outside. Sitting here trying to "secure" yourself from DDOS is akin to thinking you can shut off the city water system by turning off the water to your house. The city is still sending water, you may not see it at your faucet, but it's still there pushing on the valve to your house whether you like it or not.

     

     

     

    Anyone worrying about this is wasting their time. If someone wants your IP, they're going to get it whether you like or not. If you think you can hide it, you're wrong. Go learn about networking. For those that just don't understand it, don't worry about it and go play your game.

  8. Yes, unlike the crew, I can voice my own opinions :D (im kidding)

     

    You need to better voice it then, instead of saying "this conversation is over" when I challenge your stance and you find out I'm from the US. :lol: Works both ways man. You can't scream that we're over here doing it wrong and then just walk away when you can't back up your opinion. ;)

     

     

     

    The following occurred in #runescape, Tip.It's IRC channel.

     

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    NightShade is [email protected] * Tal Shiar Leader

     

    NightShade is connecting from *@212-*.ip.telfort.nl

     

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    TS_Stormrage was [email protected]*.ip.telfort.nl * Tal Shiar Leader

     

    TS_Stormrage using phoenix.il.us.tip.it Fri May 8 12:29:01 2009

     

     

     

    8.34.48a oh, hi TS

     

    8.35.03a nice of you to use your real name when spamming your crap :D

     

    8.35.11a now i can call you an idiot directly

     

    8.35.30a on top of the fact that doesn't belong in RS general

     

    8.35.54a yeah i wondered why my name keeps switching to NightShade

     

    8.36.04a i decide dnot bother with changing t back anymore

     

    8.36.29a took you a while to figure out though :P

     

    8.37.06a not really, it took all of 30 seconds once i actually decided to whois you

     

    8.37.55a i still think it's funny the EU thinks they have any kind of "right" to help control the internet outside the EU

     

    8.38.08a if you guys don't like how it's done, build your own

     

    8.38.25a nobody is forcing gyou to peer with the rest of the world and use the ICANN roots

     

    8.39.16a would make for a much more interesting show when everyone over there gets cut off from the rest of the world because someone wants to fix what isn't broken

     

    8.42.10a it's political BS that happens every few year

     

    8.42.20a nothing will happen, and it'll just come up again next election cycle

     

    8.42.28a BUT OMG THE US CONTROLS OUR INTERNETS

     

    8.42.31a ha

     

    8.42.55a fine but next time read the whole thing

     

    8.42.58a it isnt just that

     

    8.43.19a i did read the whole thing, your post is useless, the links mean 0 to me cuz i'm not in the EU

     

    8.43.32a when again was the last time DNS failed?

     

    8.43.37a what? never? oh yeah!

     

    8.43.59a there has never been a 100% outage of teh roots, because ICANN does their damn job

     

    8.44.14a for someone not int he eu you make an aweful lot of nosie abotu this :P

     

    8.44.31a because people in the EU are trying to force their way into crap that isn't theres

     

    8.44.36a YOU are MAKING it my problem

     

    8.44.57a theirs*

     

    8.45.06a because people in the EU are trying to force their way into crap that isn't theres <--- says someone from... lemmy guess... the states?

     

    8.45.52a yes i am

     

    8.46.13a then this conversation is over

     

    8.46.16a lmao

     

    8.46.19a great logic dude

     

    8.47.12a like i said in my reply, it's nothing more than a political power grab, ICANN hasn't exactly done a horrible job maintaining IP allocations and DNS

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  9. Their position on internet related politics (such as Net Neutrality) is, seeing the predictions for the left vs right balance in the EP, what will also ultimately provide a European and multi-national counterweight to the American state-controlled domain name and IP provider (ICANN).

     

     

     

    I'm sorry, but just like your political junk on IRC, this is just as useless.

     

     

     

    ICANN is not state controlled. ICANN is a private corporation BASED in the US. It is held to US law, NOT "state-controlled". All the Euro-rage about ICANN being "US based" is nothing more than political power grabbing. Don't like it? Build your own root TLD servers and mirror the ICANN roots so you "control" your own TLDs. IPs are already an international affair due to blocks being allocated to the 5 RIRs. Don't like your allocations? Go scream at RIPE and move to IPv6 so you can address every rock you ever find and never have to worry about US "control" (I just have to LOL at "state controlled" IP provider).

     

     

     

    Given all the other "freedoms" over in EU I can only image what kind of BS would be created if they were to get a hold of some of the more important pieces of the internet substructure.

  10. For now he's right, as far as I can tell Tip.It is giving RuneScript free advertising and we're getting back diddly squat. If there was some new Tip.It feature that ran off RuneScript that would be well and good, but I'm seeing this as a one way partnership, a kind of parasitic relationship.

     

    You can call it parasitic all you like, but Tip.It has had the benefit of having RuneScript in their chat far longer than most places. Tip.It is also getting advertising in many of the IRC rooms that would otherwise just ignore the place and go elsewhere. "Hey look, we <3 RuneScript and they use Tip.It, we should try them out!". Just because there isn't any amazingly noticeable benefit the day of release doesn't mean it's suddenly "parasitic". Many of the RuneScript staff have worked with Tip.It staff behind the scenes in various forms for years whether you see it or not and that isn't going to change (hell, I run the Tip.It IRC server and have worked on RuneScript since day one, who'd have thought). Thanks for the laugh I got when I read that though.

     

     

     

    Just because you don't see a tangible benefit via a simple news post doesn't mean there hasn't been or won't be.

  11. I'll just tack this on here, as the title isn't specific.

     

     

     

    For 'hard' section rewards the guide states "This allows you to change your lyre teleport location to Waterbirth Island, as well as persuading Ghrim to purchase unnoted flatpacks of construction items from you at Grand Exchange median prices, in addition to the Boots 2's abilities'." (bold mine).

     

     

     

    This statement is rather vague. Does MTK use your coffer money to buy the flatpacks like it does for supplies? Are they bought by MTK without effecting your coffers? The little one liner isn't all that useful when looking for the actual information before you've done any of it.

  12. I think they disabled that feature after some users *cough*me*cough* abused it in Forum Games, and other places.

     

    I know thinking you were the cause of a feature removal is epic but that isn't the case.

     

     

     

    Hide tags can't be nested because of how the custom BBcode system in PHPbb3 works. The hide tag in PHPbb2 was hard coded into the system and used various methods of tagging each section so it knew when tags were embedded within each other. The PHPbb3 system is much simpler and only checks for a start and end tag for the custom BBcode, meaning it only sees the opening hide tag and the first end-hide tag it finds. Everything else treated as normal text.

  13. The problem and solution was rather clear in my first reply. Why you feel I should be nice to you when the information you asked about is available right in front of you in my reply or by clicking the chat button and the 'about' box in the client is beyond me.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    1) You ask if it's still PJIRC, the client is right there for you to check the version on.

     

     

     

    2) You ask if the fault is in the client, I stated in my first post that yes, that is the case and we'll be fixing it.

     

     

     

    3) You then go on to assume Peter can't fix it based on the previous assumption, which on it's own is a rather stupid thing to do. Add to that the fact I already knew how to fix it and simply had to wait for Peter to actually implement it and we're up to 4 strikes.

     

     

     

    4) Not being satisfied with that you ask the same question again by musing if it's a problem with the IRC server itself, when once again I have already said it's a problem in the java client setup we'll be fixing.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I'm not going to spare your ego when you don't read and think about the replies that came prior to your first post in the thread. You simply replying to this like you did shows me nothing has changed since I stopped posting here (unless you're amazing computer skills somehow vaporize when I post in a thread, which I'd find hilarious).

  14. Cruiser, if my memory serves me right, Tip.It is using the Java PJIRC Chat Client, right? Or was it changed since the rollback crash? :-s

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Also, if PJIRC is being used, wouldn't the fault be with the author of the Java PJIRC Client? Which might mean it is beyond the limits of what Peter can handle? Or is the fault really with Tip.It's own server? :?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    ~D. V. "Curious a bit about what's up with the IRC system..." Devnull

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Did you read my post at all?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    IRC doesn't allowed nicks to start with a number (as already stated). It's part of the RFC that outlines the protocol (but you wouldn't know that cuz you'd rather guess on everything). The java client implemented this as it was suppose to. The problem appears because the client allows locking of the nickname using html parameters, so the java client was also doing it's job by not allowing nick changes when disconnected. Neither are "wrong" but thanks for asking more irrelevant questions after the problem was looked into and a fix was already known.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    You also assuming Peter can't handle it is a bit idiotic. The client is open source (Yes it's PJIRC, stop being lazy and go check it) so even if Java is outside Peter's or my own skills, it isn't exactly hard to find someone that can make the change.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Good to know you still make the same stupid assumptions and think you can add to an already handled situation months after I stopped paying attention to T&C (anyone with a clue knows why I stopped).

  15. Most (if not all) IRC servers don't allow nicks to start with a number, so your name causes some problems. If you are using mIRC, change your default nick to something that doesn't start with a number and reconnect.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    If you're trying to use the java chat embedded in the forum you're currently out of luck after looking at it. It doesn't allow nick changes when disconnected so there's no way to fix your 0 problem at the moment. I'll be poking one of the other admins so they can fix this in the client.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    In the mean time you can use the CGI client found here. I don't know how long it'll take to fix this particular issue with the java chat until Peter wakes up.

  16. That's a good way to start playing around with system setting, etc, but with hardware it's a bit different, because one little mistake can turn your pc into an expensive brick. So it's better to watch somebody doing it or strictly follow guides

     

    Plugging in RAM is about as simple as it gets. You shut down, unplug the power cord, make sure you don't have any static charge (ground yourself), plug it into the slot and boot back up. There's no drivers, no software installation to follow and if the machine doesn't boot for some reason you simply take it back out and put the old one back to get working again.

     

     

     

    As long as he has the sense to ask questions and read a guide or two on how to install it before doing so he won't have any problems with a RAM upgrade outside of the freak bad stick that doesn't work out of the box.

  17. This "guide" is all over the place and won't be helpful to anyone that doesn't already have a clue what they're doing.

     

     

     

    You will need to make sure that you have either 2 256s you can't mismatch amounts of ram.

     

    You should have a talk with my laptop. It appears to be defying your "can't" statement there since it's running 1 512mb stick and 1 256mb stick.

     

     

     

    The entire guide is littered with incorrect information and more 'I wrote wordy stuff' than actual helpful info. Anyone looking for actual information they can understand should be reading Nadril's guide.

  18. find of those companies that pay you to click ads and fill out surveys, and use a bot to do them over night

     

    Not a bad idea but is it a big deal to maintain? I know with captchas and all that the site are specifically trying to weed out the people with bots im just wondering if it is worth the time for setting up and maintaining the bots.

     

    One of the stupidest ideas you could ever even consider. Putting your business into the crosshairs for potential fraud lawsuits over gaming the ad or survey system will do more damage than you would have earned over the ads.

  19. Is there ANYthing I can do to stop this guy? :wall:

     

    Changing to WPA (which you should have done way back in the thread) will keep him out as long as you used a reasonably secure password and not something like "bubbles".

  20. Doesn't matter. There are plenty of legal torrent services, and torrenting is used a lot for legal filesharing, but all of the other threads involving it have been locked. :cry:

     

    They're always locked because the content the people posting are trying to download is blatantly pirated or not freely distributed. I've messaged the moderators a few times for incorrectly locking torrent related topics and if you properly explain why it shouldn't have been locked it will get get fixed.

  21. On top of the previous reply, I want to note that WEP encryption is flat out useless at this point. There are extremely mature tools that allow you break any WEP pass phrase in a matter of minutes. If you're serious about securing your wireless you need to use WPA or WPA2 with a long alpha-numeric password. Hidding the SSID is also just as useless. People with the ability to crack the WEP key will be able to find the hidden SSID regardless. People that can't see the 'hidden' SSID won't be able to crack it. Both are equally useless in properly securing wireless.

     

     

     

    If you don't know the password to get back into the router or the pass you had set is no longer working someone likely changed it. You'll need to reset the router (pin hole on the back most of the time) and reconfigure it with a new password and new wireless encryption keys. You aren't going to be able to solve your problems if you can't get into the router to check security in the first place.

  22. You aren't going to be able to download said 'private' file without leaving whatever encrypted or private folder you use unlocked and accessible. You either sit there and make sure it stays unlocked and nobody uses the machine the whole time or you get up and risk people seeing said unlocked folder.

     

     

     

    I fail to see what someone still using a family computer may have to hide from said family, especially files ranging into the gigabytes in size.

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