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While i actually agree with you, that argument has no foundations, without prostitutes there would be not prostitution, just because their is demand doesn't mean that these men and women HAVE to open their legs/bend over.
Where theres a market there will be a product yes, but sometimes the product drives/creates demand and not the other way round.
If that were in any way true then I would be able to make a fortune by gathering up leaves and selling them.
The simple fact is, that unless there is someone willing to buy what you are selling (ie demand)... then you have no sale and no supply. Is it sometimes immoral to fulfil a demand... yes certainly... I don't see methamphetamine manufacturers as being innocent victims forced into a life of illegal drug making to satisfy the incessant demand for meth. But if there weren't people out there looking for a cheap high, then the meth labs would cease to exist.
Were the original Ipod's multimedia devices? Anyway thats not really the point. The point was that Ipod's drove demand for players that could read the MP3 format, there was no demand for them before the Ipod.a) The demand for personal music players has been around since the 80s.
B) The iPod shipped in late 2001... prior to that we saw the release of the MPMan in '97, the RIO in '98 and Compaq's Personal Jukebox in '99.
c) It is quite possible for there to be a demand for things well before they are available on the market.
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You're right on the money there m4tty. Blaming the gold farmers for the problem is like blaming hookers for prostitution. Neither would be doing it if it wasn't for the people paying for their services.
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so bias its not even funny.
when your giving a 1 sided argument at least give space so that it isn't so extreme.
Its like me saying "all" Americans are gay. Duh, of course not everyone of them are gay.
Dwarfie apparently u were having a tantrum when your writing this...several things to point out.
I am sure not all americans are buying the gold
Silver platter and the society that teaches that? u'll been watching way too much movies man. I am sure ur mentioning the lil rich kids who are like 10 asking their millionaire parents to buy them stuff... but in other cases, there are still amount of poor ppl that can barely provide the internet access to play the game let alone buy gold.
WDF is with the double cheese and bacon. Cuz i am not sure "again" that everyone likes cheese and bacon!
:wink: Okay i am pretty sure u just skipped all that so lets make it simple.
Get your facts straight.
While we're on the subject of fact checking and the like... perhaps you could point out where I said anything at all about "all" Americans buying gold.
Really dude.... think... then post.
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My goals are usually getting particular levels, or groups of levels (all skills 70+ is my current long-term aim) with smaller short-term goals popping up into the mix when needed... like getting 73 smithing so I can close off my Varrock Achievement diary.
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They wouldn't be doing it if there was no market to sell the gold into. If you want to blame anyone, blame the fat, greedy little american piglets who buy the runescape gold because their society teaches them that everything should be handed to them on a silver platter with double cheese and bacon.
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Does anyone know if JAGeX plotted Tutorial Island on the world map? If so, where is it located (in perspective of other major cities)?
Well you know you could always look at the map yourself.
Tutorial Island is pretty much south of the Wizards Tower. If you're mining at the addy/mith/coal mine south of there you can see tutorial island and maybe catch sight of a newbie running around.
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I'd like to see agility come into the equation.
Perhaps not by boosting stats as has been suggested, but as a series of combat specials that you can invoke once you reach a particular agility level. Similar to the combat enhancing prayers. Each special would drain 1/10th of the agility level needed to invoke it from your agility points.
Strata say eight different specials across level 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 and 80 agility level requirements alternating between offensive and defensive moves.
Examples of defensive enhancements could be:
Evade - Player has a chance of dodging the attack
Parry - Player has a chance of mitigating the damage from the attack
Deflect - Player has a chance of turning some of the damage back on their opponent (like a recoil or vengeance)
Examples of offensive enhancements might be:
Double Strike - Two hits for the price of one, think DDS spec
Vital Organs - Your agility allows you to strike at the heart of your opponent (literally), doing increased damage.
Roundhouse - Go Chuck Norris on your opponent with a flying headkick that leaves them stunned for three seconds.
Mechanically it would act much like the prayer and special bar interfaces currently behave. A player would select an enhancement, then - on their next offensive or defensive turn - the special would have a chance to be effective. The points drain would occur regardless of whether the special was effective.
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We do, it's here:
http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=516149
now what we really need is a special forum that mods can move these posts to called "I didn't read the stickies, you may now all mock me"
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Jebo ti pas mater
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This is basically spam
yup... so's this I suppose.
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If not for the abyss pkers runecrafting nats would be without risk (oh, one of the bugs in the abyss might hit a 9 on you as you stroll to the right passageway). No-risk nats through the abyss would mean everyone would do it, which would mean the price of nats would plummet.
RC pkers keep the price of nats high enough to make crafting nats through the abyss worthwhile.
If you don't want to be killed when crafting, don't skull - use the bracelets, that's what they're for. If you're not skulled then even the thickest pker knows that you won't be leaving a glory behind.
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It's just plain ignorance to say that notes are for non-talented people.
And the sort of ignorance which confuses "notes" which are the tones that the instrument produces and "notation" which is the requirement to have each of those notes dictated precisely in terms of pitch, duration and volume before one can play a piece of music would be?
Notes are certainly for everyone. Notation is "paint by numbers" for people learning how to play.
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fm worst u get no money and you literally set your savings on fire
Spoken like someone who can't burn decent shades.
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just play it by ear
Exactly. Notation is for musicians without talent. You may as well run a pianola roll.
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It's dolomite, baby!
Dark matter, a pound of which weighs over ten thousand pounds.
lolwut?
Dolomite is calcium magnesium carbonate... it's actually white to light pink in colour and a pound of it weights around about one pound.
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You're seriously all that stupid?
You can't see that Jagex twiddling a number in a database to create some new gold is no different from an autoer running a computer program to harvest a couple of thousand yew logs overnight and flood those onto the market?
Fine... then don't complain about the autoers. They're obviously smarter than you.
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Yes, but to "undermine" the autoers, gold would become extremely cheap
Cheaper than the autoers can sell it for at any rate. Remember they have to work for it, Jagex can simply fiddle a number in a database.
and more people would be buying it due to the fact that it was official.Possibly... I can't say that anyone who would buy large amounts of gold would be the type to stick around and play the game for any real length of time. But yes, more people might be tempted to get that whip, full guthans etc.
Both of these facts would bring huge amounts of inflation into the gameWhich would be completely offset by the fact that there are now no-longer large numbers of autoers and goldfarmers flooding the market with cut-price resources, making it far easier to make money by training skills.
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Its the fact that the price of items go up....while your money remain the same.
Are you really that thick? If the price of items go up, then the amount that you sell items goes up at the same rate as the price that you buy items... so the net gain/loss is zero.
I did explain that in my original post to you but I imagine you were too busy practising writing your name to read it.
~Ddaanniiellh (and yes, i post my name at the bottom of everything I write)Most of us grew out of that after kindergarten.
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And exactly how low would this be? =/....50 cents per mil?
Who cares how low it is. If they do it, it gets rid of 99.9% of the autoers and all of the goldfarmers.
The difference is that the value of the amount of money you have now would be worth waaaayyyy wayyy less. Same thing with US Dollars now, back then it was 5 cents for something like a ice cream, now like $2.00. would you prefer all your previously earned money to be lowered to 1/10 of its current value?Again... what does it matter what the percieved 'value' of a GP is? In case you missed it, it would happen to everyone. If the value of my GP goes down, so does yours. If it takes me 2000gp to buy a shark, and it costs you 2000gp to buy a shark, we're still on an even footing.
You still haven't addressed my question as to how it would be any different to the current situation where the money is simply purchased from other players instead of Jagex.
~DdaanniiellhYes, we know... your name is beside your post, above your avatar... there is no reason to put it under your post as well.
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If you could do afros, I'd make myself a /b/tard (black afro, black suit).
Pool's closed.
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That wouldn't stop it, all it would do is lower the value that the autoer "program runners" would sell the gp for per mil.
I'm guessing you missed the bit where I said "undercut the gold farmers to the point where there is no way they can recover their bandwidth costs, let alone make a profit", so here it is again in big red letters:
undercut the gold farmers to the point where there is no way they can recover their bandwidth costs, let alone make a profit
Also, it would mess up the in-game money system, because now money is completely free flow and could be generated by Jagex 24/7...causing inflation.Right... and people buying money from Jagex is different to people buying money from autoers and gold-farmers in what way? People already buy money. What difference does it make who they buy it from? What does inflation matter anyway? If today you're selling flax at 100gp and buying sharks at 1k, would it be any different if tomorrow you are selling flax at 200ea and buying sharks at 2k?
~DdaanniiellhAt least you got that right.
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I would love if Jagex sold gold. But it's an unfair advantage to poor people.
So is membership. So is owning a computer in the first place.
Poor people would worry more about putting bread on their family's plates than the amount of gold they had in an online game.
And what does it really matter to you if someone else has more gold than you do? Everything in game is achievable with hard work (more enjoyable that way too IMHO). If someone simply wished to buy their way to a few levels and some neato items, it's not going to take anything away from our experience.
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With that kind of incentive there is now way jagex can stop autoers....
Sure there is. Jagex can sell RS gold themselves. All they need to do is undercut the gold farmers to the point where there is no way they can recover their bandwidth costs, let alone make a profit and there is no incentive to auto (except for the rare case of the player who simply wants to get high levels with minimal effort)
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Let's say some newbie is offered by a higher level to trim his armor for 100gp, not aware of either the trimming aspect or how much he would pay even if it was possible.
He should take responsibility for educating himself about what trimmed armour is, and how one would go about getting it. The same way as you wouldn't go to a foreign country without doing some basic research about local customs, exchange rates etc.
In this case, the player honestly has no idea he would be scammed, neither is he looking for an easy profit.Not looking for an easy profit? Just trying to get one of the most desirable items in the game for a bargain price without putting in the hard work that you would normally have to in order to obtain such an item.... No... not looking for an easy profit there at all. :roll:
Anyone who doesn't have the IQ to realise that if you could get your armour trimmed for 100gp then everyone would be walking around in trimmed armour shouldn't be playing the game. And if they continue to play the game knowing how utterly stupid they are, then they have no-one to blame when they lose their items than themselves.
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31 years old... Married with 2 kids and a dog. Have my own IT consultancy firm in conjunction with my business partner. Been playing computer games since before a lot of you were even born. Outside of which though I run every day (first marathon coming up in just over a week), hit the gym five mornings a week, play guitar, serve on various committees for my kids' school and kindergarten. Enjoy going out to our friends houses for dinner or having them over to ours... usual sort of life I suppose.