Ha! My iron scimmy's better than yours! ~ 41+ Supporters.

[None2None]

Well, my idea is simple, yet would change a lot about the game. As of right now, all of the same items are the same, a whip is the same as any other whip, and a rune scimitar is the same as a rune scimitar. My suggestion is to make it so that some rune scimitars are better than others, and some whips are better than others. This mattering, in some cases, what monster dropped it, while in others, what smithing level that you are.

 

 

 

Experience wouldn't change (in my mind) and levels to wear things would change (also, just in my mind). Durability could come later (like barrows, yet for all armor), but not yet as I know many people hate that part of other games.

 

 

 

They would look somewhat like this:

 

 

 

Yet could also look like

 

 

 

Showing the stats would prevent scamming, and therefore be called the anti-scam ;)

 

 

 

If you understand what I'm saying without the picture, you can reply, else, please wait until I get these pictures up to get the full-scale idea of what I'm talking about.

 

 

 

If you'd like to know in relation to other games what this idea is like, look at some of Diablo II's weaponry and that is very similar. The attributes of these weapons would be the same, we wouldn't add any of the many other attributes that Diablo II has like poison and change of critical hit etc., but it would stay with slash damage, bash damage, stab damage, etc and the defenses, those would just vary.

 

 

 

Clarifier - (Generally) The armor classes would stay the same. i.e. Rune better than Addy, Addy better than mith, mith better than black etc etc etc...

 

 

 

Addressing the scamming issue:

 

Second screen (I'll make a picture later) could look similar to the way it looks now, yet you could click on the item, or hold your mouse over it and the stats could be shown.

 

 

 

If you get what I mean...the second screen would remain looking clean and you could decide which items you'd like to re-view to make sure there isn't a scam in order.

 

 

 

Another idea I came up with on this issue would be to name the lower items differently from the higher items by adding prefixes such as "Low-Quality [item]" as opposed to "Excellent [item]" which would be applied to each item.

 

 

 

For example:

 

 

 

"Low-Quality Whip"

 

"Excellent Whip"

 

 

 

Addressing the economy:

 

... it would also ruin the economy, and if you haven't noticed, the economy is already messed up

 

Not necessarily ruin it, but could in fact possibly save it. Having higher and lower whips/weapons would allow poorer players to be able to buy lower-weapons and richer players to buy higher-weapons. Then, instead of people complaining about how high certain items have gotten in cost, they could buy a lower - yet still effective for what they want to do - item to complete the task. :wink:

 

 

 

No way! 5 separate spots for the same type of item?! Waste of space!

 

Well, I've actually come up with a solution to that and made a visual .gif image to simluate how this problem could be fixed by simply adding a "specific item screen" over the actual bank screen. You could X-out of this second "specific item screen" and you would be brought back to your bank screen.

 

 

 

 

(Best/Worst would be calculated by adding up all stats - including negatives. The one with the highest number is considered the 'best')

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes this would add more words and dimensions to items, but again, no new items

 

 

 

Supporters:

 

1.) None2None

 

2.) Toxicologist

 

3.) mrmyk

 

4.) Gyroman26

 

5.) ThruItAll

 

6.) Artificial_Doom_Flavor

 

7.) Flamebade

 

8.) roguecow1

 

9.) iwatake

 

10.) highlanders

 

11.) FusionX

 

12.) iwldwonu

 

13.) ickdeep

 

14.) nicrune008

 

15.) Domo

 

16.) piman1053

 

17.) Albel_8492ed

 

18.) Chewylobster

 

19.) dsavi_x4

 

20.) Doughnut

 

21.) newb4lyfe7

 

22.) Mouseydude

 

23.) Kilo

 

24.) salim123

 

25.) Jeda45

 

26.) Stewie_Griffen

 

27.) Moonlapsed

 

28.) Silentsurf

 

29.) Legionwizard

 

30.) DarkVincent

 

31.) NinjaChicken

 

32.) dtbrehm

 

33.) deathlord552

 

34.) chiknstu

 

35.) Gabe93walla

 

36.) shadow_hawk

 

37.) Borschwicz

 

38.) mininpure

 

39.) GlowinRedM

 

40.) Masterthias

 

41.) go461

 

 

 

A related idea that I liked, suggested by ThruItAll but not included in the support list, just for Jagex or others to look at and ponder: (comment on it if you like/dislike it. If there are enough I'll make a new support list)

 

 

 

The suggestion made was to have only the basic weapon tradable - All higher and lower variations of the weapon could only be gotten through drops from monsters, and most likely only sold to a general store for a certain amount based on the quality - Nobody else could see this item appear. This would make slayer more useful as well as add a point in looking for drops like a rune scimmy.

[m1cha34l]

That would destroy the whole point of ahaving ja prestigeous item wouldn't it?

[The_Gabe]

Really bad idea, people would be out to find the strongest rune scimmy for f2p pking and etc.

[LordOfWar]

not a great idea there is already enough items that we all want no need to add more

[None2None]

That would destroy the whole point of ahaving ja prestigeous item wouldn't it?

 

Not at all. In fact, what this would do is make the better items of the same class even more prestigious than the lower ones. Someone with a whip would still look like... erm... a person with a whip. The appearance of the item wouldn't change... And generally, the effectiveness of an item wouldn't change. It would just add a new twist to items in making them different as opposed to all the same.

 

Really bad idea, people would be out to find the strongest rune scimmy for f2p pking and etc.

 

Erm... Yea... that would be the point. But that's not to say that the *best* rune scimmy would be common. As of now everyone has a rune scimmy, all the same. If they were different, a person just training for the sake of training could buy one with lower stats, while a pker could buy one with higher stats. Of course the economy would change, but it does with every update...

 

not a great idea there is already enough items that we all want no need to add more

 

No items would be added at all. The same items would be in RuneScape. The only thing that would change is the potential of those items. Some would be better, some would be worse. If you were buying a whip (for instance) you could either buy a perfect, or greater one, for more money, or a lesser one for less money. either way it would remain a whip though. It would also add to the anticipation when you get a whip-drop ;)

[RayOxide]

Actually, if you change it to...

 

 

 

Like, one is stronger than the other in a certain strength thing (Slash, Crush, Stab, etc) And the other is stronger in another. It all works out there.

 

 

 

One stronger than the other in every way would unbalance the game.

[Toxicologist]

Sure. A Rune Scimitar with two extra strength, or maybe four, is going to unbalance the game. I really see the logic there.

 

 

 

I think this is an excellent idea. Of course, you would need to be able to see the statistics in a trade screen... however, considering this idea is a tad bit complicated, I really don't think JAGeX would do it. I would also like to add that this idea of same weapons with variable stats is used widely in other MMORPGs. It does add a bit of spice, especially (in my opinion) to trading. Not saying Runescape should copy everyone else, but...

[Huta]

Scamming ftw eh?

 

 

 

That's all this is asking for.

 

 

 

People won't even check the second screen long enough to notice if their set of armor they're buying has two skirts, or if the entire set says "verac" or "guthan" before the armor piece. You really expect them do wade through this?

 

 

 

Your Offer;

 

Coins x 8,250,000

 

 

 

Opponants offer;

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Abyssal whip x 5

 

 

 

 

 

Can you even imagine how messy the second screen would be?

[None2None]

Well, at least Toxicologist agrees :P

 

 

 

But Huta, I was actually thinking about that last night.

 

 

 

Second screen (I'll make a picture later) could look similar to the way it looks now, yet you could click on the item, or hold your mouse over it and the stats could be shown.

 

 

 

If you get what I mean...the second screen would remain looking clean and you could decide which items you'd like to re-view to make sure there isn't a scam in order.

 

 

 

Another idea I came up with on this issue would be to name the lower items differently from the higher items by adding prefixes such as "Low-Quality [item]" as opposed to "Excellent [item]" which would be applied to each item.

 

 

 

For example:

 

 

 

"Low-Quality Whip"

 

"Excellent Whip"

 

 

 

 

 

Yes this would add more words and dimensions to items, but again, no new items

[mrmyk]

i like this...provides more tactics into the game :wink:

[None2None]

i like this...provides more tactics into the game :wink:

Awesome, thanks.

 

 

 

Added you to the (currently) short list :P

[la la la]

I don't like it, and I think you have been playing too much guild wars (most weapons like 2k, max bonuses like 200k). If you want different stats, get a different weapon.

 

 

 

Edit: It only changes by a few points, but the cost changes are incredible.

[None2None]

I don't like it, and I think you have been playing too much guild wars (most weapons like 2k, max bonuses like 200k). If you want different stats, get a different weapon.

tbh, never played guild wars in my life...Got the idea from Diablo II, where there arn't durastic changes like that. I'm thinking of more a swing from (in a whips case) 77-87, not like 60-100...

 

 

 

But you can have your opinion :)

[RayOxide]

Actually, if you change it to...

 

 

 

Like, one is stronger than the other in a certain strength thing (Slash, Crush, Stab, etc) And the other is stronger in another. It all works out there.

 

 

 

One stronger than the other in every way would unbalance the game.

 

 

 

This is teh better idea matey

[Abyssalwhip]

They have these, they're called different metal types.

[Gyroman26]

lol i can see the people selling and buying it now\

 

buying whip with 82 slash

 

selling 84 slash whip 1.7 mil

 

buying 77 whip 1.3 mil

 

selling all kinds of whip stats take yuor pick and offer

 

 

 

imagine that with even more items.

 

i still like the idea.

[None2None]

Actually, if you change it to...

 

 

 

Like, one is stronger than the other in a certain strength thing (Slash, Crush, Stab, etc) And the other is stronger in another. It all works out there.

 

 

 

One stronger than the other in every way would unbalance the game.

 

 

 

This is teh better idea matey

Well, sure, one could do that...but I don't believe everything should ballanced in the first place...

 

 

 

They have these, they're called different metal types.

 

Yep, thanks for the spam, hense I addressed that :roll:

 

 

 

Added ya Gyroman26 ;)

[Huta]

Ok...what about noting? If you note these whips, they won't be examinable. True, you could give them classes; "Excellent whip", "Poor Whip", "Average Whip", but then every whip in a class would have to be identical, which messes up your idea of varying whips.

[wizard_1315]

NO! I've used weapons with different attributes in Silkroad Online and i'm fed up with them. Runescape weapons are just fine :)

[None2None]

Ok...what about noting? If you note these whips, they won't be examinable. True, you could give them classes; "Excellent whip", "Poor Whip", "Average Whip", but then every whip in a class would have to be identical, which messes up your idea of varying whips.

Hmm, you have a good point. I'll try to come up with a solution to that. Give me a few hours and I'll get back to ya...may make a picture of my final idea ;)

[ThruItAll]

This is an ok idea, but make only the normal Abyssal Whips tradeable, the others from kills from abyssal demons.

[None2None]

This is an ok idea, but make only the normal Abyssal Whips tradeable, the others from kills from abyssal demons.

Well...could...but then slayer would suddenly help dueling and pking 100x over...and then on that topic, what happens when one is pk'd for a high whip? :-k Either it would have to change to a regular or there would be massive drop-trades going on for 'em. :?

 

 

 

I'll add you're suggestion to the front page so that it can be viewed in relation to the idea, but those who support will support the general idea without that twist ;)

 

 

 

BTW - Can I add ya under those conditions? :

[ThruItAll]

Yep.

[None2None]

Added ya ;)

[mr_invisable]

Dont only think about the trades, what about the banks?

 

If you had 85 slayer and after getting a few whips as drop.

 

All would be different. 5 bank slots for 1 whip in ea. #-o