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[Necromagus]

Thing is, when you use Spit Up or Swallow, you immediately lose the defence buff you got from Stockpiling.

[runescape_rocks]

I hit 100 hours today, I was breeding chimchars, hoping for a 20+/31/20+/31/20+/31 IV spread.

 

 

 

I think I've bred over 200 chimchars, but no luck, but I'll get one eventually.

 

 

 

Small note, if you get any with 31 IV in ANY area, keep it for breeding out the best IV's you can get. Then work with those, raising your stats selectively. I spent a month building a Hippowdon with a good tank nature, a male gender, and 31/31/31/28/31/31 IV spread, which I cloned through the GTS and promptly traded for some rare berries and a NYPC Lickilicki with the following moves:

 

 

 

Wish

 

Heal Bell

 

Me First

 

Explosion(STABed power!!!)

 

 

 

Yeah, I think I'm going about my breeding and such in the most effiecient way.

 

 

 

1. Get ralts/abra with the nature you want and synchronize ability

 

2. Hunt dittos, keep the ones with perfect IVs

 

3. Breed with whatever

 

4. Make breeded ones parents, both with at least 1 perfect IV

 

5. Rinse and repeat

[RayOxide]

Well, I just (JUST) beat the 6th leader (The steel dude) with pokemon levels of:

 

 

 

Gyarados: 35

 

Staraptor: 35

 

Empoleon: 40

 

Machamp: 33/34

 

Roserade: 36

 

Riolu (Exp Share training): 22

 

 

 

I had a Buneary at 28, but I went through the Iron Island. Then I hatched the Riolu egg quickly. Thus, not using the Buneary.

 

 

 

I haven't played since I beat the leader. But I still train on Iron Island. Great place to train 4.5/6 of my party. (staraptor = .5 as it has a fighting type move.. Close combat)

 

 

 

Btw, when I get a ditto I'll breed my Empoleon and some decent other ones.

 

 

 

And one more thing, what's IV mean? >.> And also, what do you guys' think the easiest category of Contests are? I think cute, but I may be wrong.

 

 

 

One last thing, is the Veilstone mart the only place that sells good contest moves for money?

[Necromagus]

IV = Individual Value. A value anywhere between 0 and 31 that influences how fast any given stat will grow on the curve from 1 to 100. The higher the better. Although you can't check your IVs in game, you can run them though one of the many calculators found online. For breeding purposes, the child will get three random IVs from the father and three random IVs from the mother. That's why it's important to have both parents with as many high IVs as possible.

 

 

 

As for the contests... They're all easy, up to the third round. With the berries you find in Amity Square you can cook poffins well enough to max any one stat if the pokemon you're feeding to likes the taste. You don't have to link to cook lvl. 28 poffins, just practice. Once you have a stat maxed, you'll breeze through the first three rounds of contests. And because all Amity Square berries also have a secondary stat, it's not too hard to beat the contests for that stat up to the third round either. I now am a master in all five contest types, although you only need to beat one for the second star on the trainer card.

 

 

 

In the fourth round fashion show, it's all knowing about what accessories to pick. There seems to be a hierarchy in the quality of items that goes Amity Square > Massage > Flower shop > Unique/contest prizes. Just make sure you put on 20 items. Dancing gets easier with practice, and appeals are incredibly easy. A basic strategy is to have a move that allows you to go first and a move that gets +2 from going first or a move that allows you to go last and two moves that get +2 from going last.

 

 

 

My Gallade now has 23 ribbons (4 from the Cool contest, 3 from the Beauty contest, 2 from each other contest, all 7 ribbons you get from the lady in the last city, the Elite 4 ribbon, the Footstep ribbon and the Accomplishment ribbon).

[chessmastuh]

@Ray, if you need more information on IVs, serebii.net's guide is incredibly thorough.

 

 

 

After three days of doing rounds of 16 honey trees every 20-ish hours, finally caught an Aipom, and with a Jolly nature (and 29 HP IV) to boot. Needless to say, I'm relatively pleased. :-w

[runescape_rocks]

For breeding purposes, the child will get three random IVs from the father and three random IVs from the mother.

 

 

 

Uhh...are you sure??

 

 

 

I was under the impression that it goes like this: random IVs are created for the baby, then one random IV from either parent is passed down, then one random IV other than HP is selected from either parent and passed down, then one random IV other than HP or Defense is selected from either parent and is passed down.

 

 

 

The number of IV's directly passed down is always three, but due to overlaps and the fact that the baby can have the same IV as the parent, it will seem to inherit anywhere from 1 to 4 IVs, but there is a chance that 5(.58%) and 6(.01%) can be "passed" down.

 

 

 

Woot, just got a 12 - 13 / 1 / 29 / 31 / 31 / 31 chimchar. Unfortunately, I wasn't breeding for nature, so it sucks, so it will become the parent.

[Necromagus]

Well, it sounds like you have more experience with IV breeding than I do... I just breed for moves and nature most of the time. Still need to find me a male Misdreavus. I couldn't have the patience some breeders have, going for the right nature, the right moves, good IVs and a Hidden Power of exactly the right type and at least 60 power. Of course this would be even more frustrating if you also had to deal with multiple abilities. On another message board some guy said he nearly threw his DS out of the window when he realized he had hatched a Bold Happiny with 31 in all IVs, but with Serene Grace in stead of Natural Cure.

[Alg]

^

 

i'd say that's taking it a bit too seriously...

 

that difference in abilities is far too minor to throw a DS out of a window.

 

of course, i'm not that big into IVs/EVs, most people who deal with EVs willingly sacrifice some of the important stats for others, like the ones that recommend a weavile with only attack and speed, and then complain that it dies quickly.

[Who]

It's actually 1 IV from mother and father, and the rest are random. Having good IVed and Nature Dittos help alot for IV breeding..

[chessmastuh]

^

 

i'd say that's taking it a bit too seriously...

 

that difference in abilities is far too minor to throw a DS out of a window.

 

 

 

I'd be a little pissed as well if I'd painstakingly bred a perfect Happiny only for it to have a crappy ability like Serence Grace (yeah, it's useful for Pokemon that depend on Ancientpower etc., but on a walling Blissey it has little use).

 

 

 

How do you breed for natures, by the way? I've been looking and looking but I can't find a thorough, specific guide for it.

[RayOxide]

Thanks for the hints. I still don't really get it though. =S

 

 

 

IV = Individual Value...

 

 

 

EV = Exact Value?

 

 

 

I was using the calculator, (Serebii) and when I went to the hp and atk def, etc... It had IV: Which I knew, and EV: which I don't.

 

 

 

So, What's ev stand for? =S

[pikachu54673]

Not video game related, but I found my old Pokemon TCG cards in my closet today =)

 

 

 

Ahh the memories......

[Who]

Natures are random. However if you give an Everstone to a Female Pokemon before putting it in the daycare, the eggs will have a 50% chance of having the mother's nature.

[chessmastuh]

Thanks for the hints. I still don't really get it though. =S

 

 

 

IV = Individual Value...

 

 

 

EV = Exact Value?

 

 

 

I was using the calculator, (Serebii) and when I went to the hp and atk def, etc... It had IV: Which I knew, and EV: which I don't.

 

 

 

So, What's ev stand for? =S

 

 

 

EV stands for Effort Values; yet again, Serebii has a great guide on this.

 

 

 

Basically the idea, in essence, is that to keep it so that each pokemon of the same species differs stat-wise from trainer to trainer, pokemon's stats will be ever-so-slightly affected by what types of pokemon they fight. For instance, if your Chimchar fights a Zubat and wins, along with the exp it'll receive a hidden "effort value" towards its Speed stat, since Zubat's dominant stat is Speed. When your pokemon gets four effort values towards one stat, it'll raise that stat by an extra point when the pokemon levels up.

 

 

 

Since it's a hidden point system (as in there's no way that you can check), you have to keep track of the EVs that your pokemon get if you want to train them that way. It's all very complicated, but after reading the Serebii guide a few times I was able to get it. :P

[Lionheart_0]

^ So if I train a pokemon on nothing but zubat's for a few levels, I will only gain in the speed stat? And how does this work for switch training (as in putting a pokemon out first then switching it for the one to finish it off).?

 

 

 

BTW, I just finished connecting to the DS for the first time, so this is my friend code:1332 5827 5678.

 

 

 

If anyone wants to do something with me, just pm me. I'm only at hearthome city right now (for the first time) so obviously I dont have a very strong team.

 

 

 

My main team consists of:

 

Chatot-17

 

Misdreavus-17

 

Combee-18

 

Luxio-22

 

Prinplup-21

 

 

 

Sucky right now, but I haven't found what pokemon type I'll try and focus on yet.

 

 

 

Also, anyone know how to weed out all the ridicules pokemon trades at the GTS? I wanted a pikachu and all the people wanted ubers that were lve 100.

[Necromagus]

Chatot is a weak gimmick Pok̮̩̉̉mon, you should train a Starly in stead. Misdreavus is pretty decent once you evolve it to Mismagius. I hope your Combee is female, since Vespiquen makes a great tank (Toxic/Heal Order/Roost/Attack Order or Power Gem). If it's a male, dump it and catch a female, since it doesn't evolve. Luxio is alright, as long as it has Intimidate as its ability in stead of Rivalry. Prinplup is pretty great all around.

 

 

 

As for me, I downloaded a rom of Pok̮̩̉̉mon Fire Red to decide whether I would buy that or Emerald, and I have to say that besides the nostalgia, it really doesn't offer much and seems way too easy. I blazed through six gyms in one sitting. My team after beating Sabrina:

 

 

 

Charizard (lvl. 46, Flamethrower/Aerial Ace/Dragon Claw/Metal Claw)

 

Primeape (lvl. 45, Brick Break/Cross Chop/Focus Energy/Rage)

 

Snorlax (lvl. 47, Body Slam/Earthquake/Rest/Sleep Talk)

 

Dugtrio (lvl. 44, Magnitude (will be Earthquake)/Dig/Tri Attack/Slash)

 

Vaporeon (lvl. 45, Surf/Water Pulse/Ice Beam/Haze)

 

Parasect (lvl. 48, Substitute/Spore/Giga Drain/Slash)

 

 

 

My Parasect is especially entertaining. Spore, Substitute, replenish life with Giga Drain. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[chessmastuh]

^ So if I train a pokemon on nothing but zubat's for a few levels, I will only gain in the speed stat? And how does this work for switch training (as in putting a pokemon out first then switching it for the one to finish it off).?

 

 

 

 

Not quite. I'll make a more in depth runthrough here.

 

 

 

The EVs essentially determine how fast and to what extent certain stats rise, so yes, when you defeat a Zubat you get 1 point towards your EVs. But looking at it on a large scale, you can't simply fight a few Zubats and be done with speed - EV training means training it all the way through to 'max out' your EVs. Your pokemon can have a max of 510 EVs, and at that point they stop being counted. While this is true, only half of those EVs can go towards one skill - so if you go and kill 256 Zubats, you'll only recieve 255 EVs to speed.

 

 

 

EVs don't effect levels immediately; if you only kill Zubats for 3 levels, it's not as if suddenly you'll get 20 extra speed stats. EVs are counted up by the game and spread out over your pokemon's growth, so if you max out your EVs by, say, level 50, you won't have stats through the roof, you'll simply have a more dramatic level spread and the stats that you trained will gain at a faster rate. Keep in mind that since you can't look at your pokemon's EV spread (it's a hidden value), either you must keep track of the pokemon that you kill right from the get-go or you don't bother thinking about EVs at all.

 

 

 

Training EVs doesn't pump your pokemon up in everything, it simply allows you to influence the level gain that your pokemon has. For instance, if I'm EV training my Ambipom, I'll train it on pokemon that give speed and HP (and a little bit of defense) points so that by the time I max out my EVs, I'll be able to run it through the league (after you get 510 it doesn't matter what you train on) until I can get it to lvl 100. At that point, instead of having pretty average stats through the board, it'll have very high Speed and HP than is normal, mediocre defense, and worse Attack, Sp. Attack, and Sp. Defense than normal. I'll have influenced his level growth, sacrificing those stats that aren't necessary for the stats that I need to make him a good Baton Passer (Speed, HP, and Defense). This is the advantage that EVs give you - you have direct influence over which stats you want to be high when you reach lvl 100 and which stats you don't need.

 

 

 

EVs are really complicated, and take a much longer time to train - I'd suggest having some fun, beating the game, and figuring everything out before you delve into it. If you still don't understand, you can ask or you can keep reading the Serebii guide. Trust me, it gets easier to understand every time. :P

 

 

 

(And yes, switch training works for EVs - both pokemon will receive the EVs that the defeated pokemon hands out. If you'd like to see what EVs certain pokemon give when defeated, the Pokedex on Serebii lists that, among other things. As a rule of thumb it's usually the pokemon's highest stat(s).)

 

 

 

@Necro: if you're really into breeding/Pokedex, get Emerald. If you're like me and you really loved the first games, then get Fire Red. Personally I found Leaf Green refreshing and fun, but you can always just play your old cartridges. :P

[runescape_rocks]

It's actually 1 IV from mother and father, and the rest are random. Having good IVed and Nature Dittos help alot for IV breeding..

 

 

 

You sure?

 

 

 

I just ran some calculations, and it would seem that a very large number of pokemon players have been getting very very very lucky with their eggs.

[jwrm22]

It's actually 1 IV from mother and father, and the rest are random. Having good IVed and Nature Dittos help alot for IV breeding..

 

 

 

You sure?

 

 

 

I just ran some calculations, and it would seem that a very large number of pokemon players have been getting very very very lucky with their eggs.

 

 

 

its a chance of 1:31 to get one with maxed iv in 1 stat, and 1:31^5 to find one maxed iv in all stats. a ditto that passes ivs isnt realy helpfull because i always find me getting the wrong ivs for the stats. and you cant realy calculate what the iv will be, just because 99% of the pokemons arnt ev trained, so you wont know what ivs and evs they've got :XD:

[spooferfish]

Lost my pokemon Pearl game for a couple months..My dad found it, I started leveling up some more and the DS, with game, somehow gets knock into the toilet (i dont even know why my DS was in the bathroom).

 

 

 

 

 

:(

[chessmastuh]

Lost my pokemon Pearl game for a couple months..My dad found it, I started leveling up some more and the DS, with game, somehow gets knock into the toilet (i dont even know why my DS was in the bathroom).

 

 

 

 

 

:(

 

 

 

I was on the can a few weeks ago trying to get my signature right on the back of my trainer card (an impossible feat, let me say), and the stylus dropped straight through my legs into...

 

 

 

Well, it wasn't pleasant. I had to fish it out with a pair of tongs and wash both the tongs and the stylus for about 15 minutes.

 

 

 

For some reason, a lot of people I talk to with a DS have had this experience before, lol. It would seem we aren't the only ones.

 

 

 

Are you considering a replacement?

[runescape_rocks]

It's actually 1 IV from mother and father, and the rest are random. Having good IVed and Nature Dittos help alot for IV breeding..

 

 

 

You sure?

 

 

 

I just ran some calculations, and it would seem that a very large number of pokemon players have been getting very very very lucky with their eggs.

 

 

 

its a chance of 1:31 to get one with maxed iv in 1 stat, and 1:31^5 to find one maxed iv in all stats. a ditto that passes ivs isnt realy helpfull because i always find me getting the wrong ivs for the stats. and you cant realy calculate what the iv will be, just because 99% of the pokemons arnt ev trained, so you wont know what ivs and evs they've got :XD:

 

 

 

Yes, I know how to calculate actually.

 

 

 

And yes, dittos work. In fact, 19% of dittos have a perfect IV. That, coupled with the synchronize ability, means that getting a ditto with the nature you need plus the IV you need is very doable.

 

 

 

Breeding with dittos is extremely useful. Let's give an example of a breeding chain...

 

 

 

You want a hippowdon let's say. So you'll want to have perfect IVs in attack, hp, and defense.

 

 

 

Ditto w/ 31 IV in HP + Hippopotus = Hippopotus w/ 31 IV in HP

 

 

 

31/x/x/x/x/x + x/x/x/x/x/x = 31/x/x/x/x/x = 11%

 

 

 

Ditto w/ 31 IV in ATK + Hippopotus w/ 31 IV in HP = Hippopotus w/ 31 IV in ATK and HP

 

 

 

31/x/x/x/x/x + x/31/x/x/x/x = 31/31/x/x/x/x = 2.5%

 

 

 

Ditto w/ 31 IV in DEF + Hippopotus w/ 31 IV in ATK and HP

 

 

 

x/x/31/x/x/x + 31/31/x/x/x/x = 31/31/31/x/x/x = 0.3% (.15% since you'll want the correct nature)

 

 

 

So yes, it's time consuming, but it can be done.

 

 

 

And for calculating IVs, you can make a simple program to calculate them, in C++ or Java, or whatever you want. Using the target IV method, it's fairly easy to determine if your pokemon has the desired IV. Plus, there's lots of good calculators out there. You will need rare candies with you though, so I usually carry 50-100, so that I can check the IVs of 5 or 6 of my pokemon at a time.

[RayOxide]

Thanks for the hit's guys. Right now I've been using berries for alot of things.

 

 

 

For a whole week I've done barely any fighting, but I have now got 112 leppa berries (As ethers are unbuyable) I bought loads of things from the acc. shop in Floraroma* Town. I just don't have many rare-ish berries, because I haven't even gotten through to Snowpoint yet.

 

 

 

Though, I do think you all should get loads of Leppa Berries. Quite useful.

 

 

 

Also, on my other game I caught a male combee and bred about 20 of them, and none were Female :ohnoes:

[chessmastuh]

Also, on my other game I caught a male combee and bred about 20 of them, and none were Female :ohnoes:

 

 

 

The percentage of male:female is 87.5% to 12.5%. Really the easiest way to get a female is to do a round of honey trees (there's a guide somewhere if you google search it that has all the locations), save before each tree, and if you run into a combee that's male, turn it off, turn it on, and try again. It takes a while, but trust me, eventually you'll get a female one (after 12 hours of honey being on the tree the species is always set in stone, but gender/level/nature/IV/etc. are all up for grabs) and it's a hell of a lot easier than hatching a bunch of eggs.

[Alg]

makes you wonder why there are male combees in the first place... in a normal beehive there are very few males. in this one, they're everywhere.

 

i got lucky with combee though, first one was female. never used the result though, only bug-type i would use is venomoth.