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Frankly I think sexuality is over-emphasized in society and I don't really think it's as important as we all make it out to be. People who get really obsessed with identifying with their sexuality - hetero- or homo- - are really missing the point by choosing to emphasize the differences between people (thereby making them points of contention, intolerance, conflict) rather than our overwhelming similarities, which transcend race, sexuality, ethnicity, economic background, whatever. George Carlin often talked about this in his stand up, and of course being the bastard he was, he would do so in major ways that don't matter. Like he'd recognize that our society focuses so much on differences, but never recognizes the similarities that transcend us. However, in his talking points to further prove his points, he would discuss things like "Have you ever gone into a room, and forgot why you went in there?"

 

 

 

Your obsession with your own sexuality shouldn't lead you into causing suffering for others, whether through infidelity, spreading STDs, failing to take precautions and spawning unwanted pregnancies, having children you aren't able to care for, etc.

 

 

 

Stop the obsession about sexuality, and look at the similarities between HUMANS! Damn...

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well think of it as this way: we ARE human and as such have the personal right to choose our own destiny. I personally am Bi, im not ashamed of it. it's simply who i am, although im not sexually attracted to guys as mush as girls but thats besides the point. if we all had to be the saem, had to be straight etc, it would defy our uniqueness. though we may share the same bodely functions our heart, or soul to speak, is what we individually control. i mean "in my opinion" if a guy who has a girlfriend decide to watch a porno, its female on female action: the guy might think "oh damn this is hot". but what if it was guy on guy? his instat reaction (mind you i said the exaple character is straight) would be "oh mai gawd! get it off! those [bleep]s!" etc. at my school they have no reason to bag on girlsmaking out with each other, but if a guy was even holding a guy's had for the next week he would end up with bruises. we stereotype people too much, although its bad, its a human instinct. but yeah, i digress.

 

 

 

off topic: reminds me in runescape a girl walking around in varrock saying: "guys are not allowed to date guys! its a blasphomy to god!" i almost fell out of my chair laughing. so me and some random decided to act like boyfriends to each other. my god was she angry. :lol:

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Astra, thanks for the post.

 

 

 

2 questions -

 

 

 

(1) These laws all came from god, correct?

 

 

 

(2) How is the distinction made between civic, moral and ceremonial? For example, if one law is "homosexuals shall be put to death", then how is that law categorized or known to be intended as that particular class? You say there is some debate among classifying particular laws - how are we sure of the ones we know of?

 

 

 

Edit: And taking (2) a little deeper, how do we know that a particular law is not intended by god as a moral law when we classify it otherwise?

 

 

 

Thanks. :)

 

 

 

Just a little spinoff - the Bible doesn't say homosexuals should be put to death - it is those that have sexual relations with their own gender. There's a difference between being homosexual and acting on it... I would argue that I in my current unmarried status am no different than a homosexual - we both have sexual urges that cannot be acted upon... if I act on my urges prior to marriage then I am no different than an acting homosexual. That's why I think homosexuals should be allowed to pastor - as long as they don't act on their sexual urges, just like I should be allowed to pastor - as long as I don't act on my sexual urges... it's not a question of gay rights, it's a question of the definition of how certain actions (ie. sex and marriage) are defined.

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I don't be around homo people, even if they are really cool. I try not to be shallow and insensitive but I just can't stand the thought that another man is sexually attracted towards me.

 

 

 

Are you attracted to every single woman you talk to? I'm not.. :lol: They're humans too, it's just a preference... It's not like they're crazed animals going for every man they see.

 

 

 

Also, The thread title still makes me chuckle. I don't even understand how the OP can ask if it's "right or "wrong". A biological/uncontrollable feature can't be assigned a value like that.

 

 

 

You might just as well ask "Is being disabled wrong"? "Red hair: Right or wrong?"

 

 

 

You don't select a sexual preference. Why would any person volunteer to like his/her own gender at the cost of social shame/humiliation, maybe even loss of job due to current societal norms?

 

 

 

Because they can't control it and it's what they genuinely want. Let them live their lives like any other person, they aren't out there to get you or cripple your moral values. They want to live their life just like everyone else.

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I don't be around homo people, even if they are really cool. I try not to be shallow and insensitive but I just can't stand the thought that another man is sexually attracted towards me.

 

 

 

 

 

Please, be a little more full of yourself would you? Just because a man is homosexual doesn't mean hes attracted to every single other man, meaning, he may not be attracted to you... It is alright to hang out with someone who is homosexual, don't worry, its not contagious, and they aren't all attracted to you. :roll:

 

 

 

Edit: ^Dang, Bluelancer sort of beat me to that one^ lol

 

 

 

Personally, I don't mind homosexuality, I'm not saying that I am homosexual, but it doesn't bother me if others want to be. If I knew someone who was, it wouldn't change my view of them at all, I'd still hang out with them. :thumbsup:

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The way I see it, being homosexual is just the difference between being inherently attracted to people of your gender instead of people of the opposite gender. There's actually a good amount of medical data that shows that homosexuality is triggered by certain physical characteristics of the brain, so it seems that it's not even a choice (if that data is correct): You're either born homosexual or not. And there's not much you can do about it.

 

 

 

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. My uncle is married to another man, and there's no way you'd notice it by talking to him. He's just a normal person except for his sexual orientation, and I don't see any reason why it's wrong to be attracted to people of your gender instead of the opposite one. :|

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm a Christian. I'm an Anglican.

 

 

 

We Anglicans are very accepting of everyone. We differ from other churches by believing homosexuality is not a sin, and things like Woman ordainment.

 

 

 

Personally I have no objection to it. God wouldn't create someone purposely sinful. And there is nothing wrong to liking men or women. I respect there views and who they like it. Full stop.

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I'm a Christian. I'm an Anglican.

 

 

 

We Anglicans are very accepting of everyone. We differ from other churches by believing homosexuality is not a sin, and things like Woman ordainment.

 

 

 

Personally I have no objection to it. God wouldn't create someone purposely sinful. And there is nothing wrong to liking men or women. I respect there views and who they like it. Full stop.

 

While I respect you aren't opposed to homosexuality ( :thumbup: ), the part about Anglicanism's stance on homosexuality doesn't apply to all Anglicans at all: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7481349.stm

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Astra, thanks for the post.

 

 

 

2 questions -

 

 

 

(1) These laws all came from god, correct?

 

Thanks. :)

 

 

 

(Not sure if I said this already but)

 

Quotes from the bible/reference from the bible would be ok IF the worlds population of gays were Christian, but since there not, wouldn't it be like you eating during the Jews fasting day and then a Jew comes over and tells you, you should be fasting today.

 

I would say if you weren't Jew you would tell him/her to get lost I'm not a Jew(or something like that).

 

(hopefully you know what I mean)

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Also, The thread title still makes me chuckle. I don't even understand how the OP can ask if it's "right or "wrong". A biological/uncontrollable feature can't be assigned a value like that.

 

 

 

You might just as well ask "Is being disabled wrong"? "Red hair: Right or wrong?"

 

 

 

You don't select a sexual preference. Why would any person volunteer to like his/her own gender at the cost of social shame/humiliation, maybe even loss of job due to current societal norms?

 

 

 

Because they can't control it and it's what they genuinely want. Let them live their lives like any other person, they aren't out there to get you or cripple your moral values. They want to live their life just like everyone else.

 

My views entirely.

 

 

 

And btw, this post comes from a complete heterosexual. I have GF and love her to bits. But i also have some homosexual friends. Just because their "taste" is a little different to other people's doesn't mean they're disgusting people, I get on very well with a homosexual and he's a great mate. Just because he fancies men doesn't mean he wants to get into every man's underwear. I know for a fact that he doesn't fancy me, in pretty much the same way my gf knows i don't fancy her best mate even though we're friends.

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I don't care if they're seriously gay, but I can't respect them if they just do it for the attention.

 

 

 

What?! Apart from drunken bets, I seriously doubt that a lot of men are going to do other men simply to get attention. It goes against the program.

 

 

 

Sure, there are plenty of people (usually teenagers, or people who have been repressing their sexuality) who are still on the discovery. They can get mightily confused, but even so, it usually has little to do with 'getting attention'.

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Isn't religion the same reason we believed Inter-racial marriage to be wrong?

 

 

 

Loving vs. Virginia anyone?

 

 

 

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, Malay and red, and He placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with His arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that He separated the races shows that He did not intend for the races to mix.

 

 

 

That ruling was justified in the 18th century, but it didn't fly in 1967 :shame:

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Isn't religion the same reason we believed Inter-racial marriage to be wrong?

 

 

 

Loving vs. Virginia anyone?

 

 

 

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, Malay and red, and He placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with His arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that He separated the races shows that He did not intend for the races to mix.

 

 

 

That ruling was justified in the 18th century, but it didn't fly in 1967 :shame:

 

 

 

Ah no, I'm religious, I'm Christian and I don't see anything wrong with inter-racial marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the end it's down to the specific way people are raised/told about these things.

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Isn't religion the same reason we believed Inter-racial marriage to be wrong?

 

 

 

Loving vs. Virginia anyone?

 

 

 

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, Malay and red, and He placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with His arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that He separated the races shows that He did not intend for the races to mix.

 

 

 

That ruling was justified in the 18th century, but it didn't fly in 1967 :shame:

 

 

 

Ah no, I'm religious, I'm Christian and I don't see anything wrong with inter-racial marriage.

 

 

 

 

Well good, maybe in 5-10 years (or less...) state sanction bans will be removed by another Supreme Court case because banning gay marriage is in violation of the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th amendment.

 

 

 

I can't think of any secular reasons for banning it, and I've looked for a long time.

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It should be legal, it's goes against the constitution as it states every citizen is born equal, yet homosexuals aren't allowed to marry. Basing your countries laws on religious laws in the 21st century is quite stupid since there is a vast amount of different religions in most countries and Atheism is on the rise as well.

 

 

 

I don't see anything wrong with homosexuality, my best friend since I was a child recently came out of the closet and told me and his other close friends, I couldn't care, it's his sexual preference, he can do who he wants as far as I'm concerned. It saddens me in the 21st century people wont accept a homosexual simply because a book nearly 2,000 years old told them not to.

 

 

 

Hopefully people will realise it's unfair to punish people simply because there attracted to the same sex, the punishment being not allowing them to marry.

 

 

 

Another question I have as well, to all of you who condemn homosexuality, does that mean you're not attracted to lesbian pornography or you've never masturbated to it? Because my guess is 9/10 of you have, and it's quite contradictory condemning it while then pleasuring yourself to it.

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Just wondering, if god doesn't like gay people why did he make them? (athiestlololol). I'm NOT gay but I'm pretty sure it's the same as someone straight with women, you're not attracted to every single one (especially the fat ones).

 

 

 

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Your name is "bet you fail", and you're starting a business with your mom? I'm not even going to touch that.....
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Edit: Magekillr, did you really need to make a 5 month bump?

 

 

 

I didn't, guss did. Besides, if someone felt the need to talk about this, why would they make a new topic?

 

 

 

Sorry misread, it was him.

Your name is "bet you fail", and you're starting a business with your mom? I'm not even going to touch that.....
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Edit: guss, did you really need to make a 5 month bump?

 

If he'd have made a new topic, he'd have been hounded for not using the Search button.

 

 

 

Sometimes I get the feeling people can't win either way when they revive dead topics... :roll:

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Homosexuality wasn't introduced until 1949(as so I have heard, I have a collect of 5 bibles, they all look older then my A.A. Milne(can't beat Tigger, gay or straight) rare...so if some one can find a chapter stating whats against Homosexuality, ill check...

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Homosexuality wasn't introduced until 1949(as so I have heard, I have a collect of 5 bibles, they all look older then my A.A. Milne(can't beat Tigger, gay or straight) rare...so if some one can find a chapter stating whats against Homosexuality, ill check...

 

 

 

Look up Greek/Hellenistic history. It was there far, far earlier then '49.

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There is nothing wrong with homosexuality and people who think otherwise need to wake up and welcome themselves to modern times.

 

I read an article in the newspaper about how some stupid old hag was distressed about a heinz advert, with two homosexual people, and she was complaining about how she had to explain homosexuality to her children, and how difficult it was to her.

 

Well how difficult is it to say "Some men like other men and some women like other women?"

 

The only reason people think homosexuality is wrong is because of the church, because theyre so ancient, they knew the dead sea when it was only ill...

 

They need to get the Pope to say "Theres nothing wrong with homoseuxality!"

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