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Longsword Versus Scimitar


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D LONG PLOX


YOU HAD BETTER EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY "D LONG PLOX", MISTER.

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d skimy looks cooler. you get more regicnition when you have a dragon skimy because it's harder to do mm than it is heroes.

dragon long is usually found on 60's- early 80's and new members.



what makes combat go round and round? str str str str str str str atk.



and the little curve just looks so much more sick than an awkward stick pointing up in the air. and the special just looks cooler.



d long looks=6

d skim looks= 8.5



mostly looks. i had a longsword while i was able to use the skimy and i just got really comfortable with the looks of it and how you look when you lash upon the enemy. should i go on? O:)


With the Dragon scimitar, not only do you get more exp in NORMAL combat than the Dragon Longsword, you also look cool with the slick edge of the red blade. The blade slashing through the air, bringing down a sense of pain and destruction on the target, is nothing less than uber-1337ness.



It also signifies that you are much more proficient in your mastery of the combat skills as you need to complete Monkey Madness before you can wield a D scimitar. A D Longsword only requires the Lost City quest, which (to the best of my understanding as I am F2P) is much easier than the latter quest.



What are you waiting for? Use the Dragon Scimitar over the Dragon Longsword today!






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Both quests are actually pretty easy. Lost city is shorter, but you can just fletch arrows and bow and safespot, now easier then ever with assist system. Monkey madness is just long, easy if you have cannon/prayer pots, 43+prayer.



But yeah....A curved red thing pwnzs a long bulky red thing.

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d skimy looks cooler. you get more regicnition when you have a dragon skimy because it's harder to do mm than it is heroes.

dragon long is usually found on 60's- early 80's and new members.



what makes combat go round and round? str str str str str str str atk.



and the little curve just looks so much more sick than an awkward stick pointing up in the air. and the special just looks cooler.



d long looks=6

d skim looks= 8.5



mostly looks. i had a longsword while i was able to use the skimy and i just got really comfortable with the looks of it and how you look when you lash upon the enemy. should i go on? O:)


With the Dragon scimitar, not only do you get more exp in NORMAL combat than the Dragon Longsword, you also look cool with the slick edge of the red blade. The blade slashing through the air, bringing down a sense of pain and destruction on the target, is nothing less than uber-1337ness.



It also signifies that you are much more proficient in your mastery of the combat skills as you need to complete Monkey Madness before you can wield a D scimitar. A D Longsword only requires the Lost City quest, which (to the best of my understanding as I am F2P) is much easier than the latter quest.



What are you waiting for? Use the Dragon Scimitar over the Dragon Longsword today!






You know alot being f2p...



Both quests are actually pretty easy. Lost city is shorter, but you can just fletch arrows and bow and safespot, now easier then ever with assist system. Monkey madness is just long, easy if you have cannon/prayer pots, 43+prayer.



But yeah....A curved red thing pwnzs a long bulky red thing.


Nah, I just read a lot in my free time.

Anyway, information from members is more reliable than mine.

But yeah....A curved red thing DEFINITELY PWNS a long bulky red thing.
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The only big advantage that the long has over the scimitar is it's special. But just use a dds for specs. I still luv longs though deep down, hehe. <3:
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The dragon long is a horrible weapon



The special is perhaps the ONLY reason anyone should use it. But even then, if you have access to a dragon long, you have access to dragon daggers.



In the Scim vs Long argument, aside from personal preference, the scimitar is better overall in everything except the special attack, but again, if you have access to the long, you have access to the dds, which is a MUCH better weapon to special with.



Its faster xp an hour

Its more damage over time

Its special is next to useless



but it is still statistically better than a long






All right, let's bring some math into this. I can hear all of you cheering. After all, everybody loves math.



Dragon Longsword speed rating (taken from KB): 5

Dragon Scimitar speed rating (taken from KB): 6

That basically means that a Dragon Scimitar can hit 6 times in the time it takes for a Dragon Longsword to 5.



Max hit with just Dragon Longsword at 80 strength, agressive, no pots or prayers: 20. With special: 25



Max hit with just Dragon Scimitar at 80 strength, agressive, no pots or prayers: 19.



All right, then. 5 times 20 equals 100. Let's say that one of those five hits was a special. So that's 105.



6 times 19 equals 114.



Now, for the final question....



Which is bigger: 105 or 114?



Of course, I'm not factoring in accuracy here. But even if I were, the Dragon Longsword would not surpass the Dragon Scimitar.




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Well, since the



"Uber d long pl0x ownzorzs skim" has died down, and the "d long specials" are better had been used up...I think D skimmy has won.

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I would use the scimitar for fast exp.

But if you would compare them, I think they allmost are the same.

The Dragon scimitar has the speed, the Long has the better bonusses and the spec.



Let's that the scimitar rules because it looks cool!

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what it boils down to is that the bonuses on the longsword mean nearly nothing when compared to the slight increase in speed...

we need a new combat system



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gratzs...



But yeah...looks like D skimmy wins.



TBH, a few str bonus dosn't increase your max hit unless its on the verge of going up one

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it's a few strength and attack bonuses, specifically the stab attack.

but then, i've had a person tell me that a warrior's ring is a waste while the berserker ring isn't. almost the whole community seems to think that a few points in an attack bonus mean nothing as a replacement for speed, and rightly so, based on my observations

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zerker ring isint very useful, but if you only need 2 or 3 str bonus, then the ring can help.



But then again, a extra hit can easily make up for a u dmg more hit

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that one speed makes a big diference and even if the dragon scimitar had a good sp i would still use the dba for its sp

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it seems alot of people here seem to think that str > speed on how good a weapon is



WRONG





in the time a d long hits 4 times, a scimmy hits 5.



the extra 1 max hit means in theory that one scimmy hit must hit a 4 or lower, but on most monster people train on, and at a decent combat lvl themselves, it will rarely miss. also, a d long is almost just as likely to miss as its attack bonuses are SLIGHTLY higher, nothing insane like the godswords bonus compared to a whip



also, when training, alot of people dont use dds.



or d mace



they use a dba spec for str then an att/super attack for makign up the attack, so please, leave the specs out of this. it is not the spec that makes the weapon, its the damage/second AVERAGE



and scimmy wins on that.



ill test it and post the results later

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in the time a d long hits 4 times, a scimmy hits 5.


Err...walka92? The longsword hits 5 times in the time a scimitar can manage 6.

Anyway, I agree with the rest. Although I'm not so sure if members prefer to use dba special over the dds. Most of the member training guides usually recommend the dds, but I cannot really say for sure as I am F2P.
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It really depends weather you want even speed and max hit (scimitar)



or slower and higher max hit (Long Sword)



I personally like the dragon scimitar because it is fast and it is really good for training strength

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I'd have to say the scimmy because i train Str with it otherwise I never use it and since I have a w hip the long sword is pointless even for specials because i use the dds.




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in the time a d long hits 4 times, a scimmy hits 5.


Err...walka92? The longsword hits 5 times in the time a scimitar can manage 6.




whatever, a scim still hits faster. speed > strength, not the other way round.

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<3 scim for its speed.



I don't even own my d long anymore, but I have to hand it to it, I used it once. In the Haunted Mine, I couldn't beat the boss vampire guy with my scim... but the long worked out pretty well.



...Of course by now I'd just whip him. =\




in the time a d long hits 4 times, a scimmy hits 5.


Err...walka92? The longsword hits 5 times in the time a scimitar can manage 6.




whatever, a scim still hits faster. speed > strength, not the other way round.




Whether or not strength > speed or speed > strength, the strength/attack difference between the dragon long and the dragon scimitar doesn't seem great enough to merit the long's strength overpowering the scim's speed.
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usually i just rock it with dds, but for the sake of this discussion, i go

longsword. But thats only for dragon (scimmi spec only good for pking)
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usually i just rock it with dds, but for the sake of this discussion, i go

longsword. But thats only for dragon (scimmi spec only good for pking)


No. Others and I have already explained why the Dragon Scimitar owns the Dragon Longsword in terms of normal bashing-ups of monsters.
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