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W00t!

 

 

 

Time to stock up on bone bolts for slaying and general ranging!

 

 

 

And where is this magic bronze knife shop?

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Sometime ago i used bronze bolts at hobgoblins near crafting guild in the non peak hours on w17 and this are the results.

 

After 100 shots with a bit of telegrabing: 1.333'k according to my exp/h.

 

Stuff used that gave range bonus: normal crossbow, d'hide body and legs.

 

Exp/h: about 16k half on rapid, half on accurate.

 

Time used: About 5 mins.

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how much would 99 Range cost from...73?

 

 

 

thats impossible to say! since it matters where you train, what you train with, what you're wearing while training (accumulator), if you're picking up ammo and things like that...

 

 

 

So from what ive read bone bolts > bronze bolts > bronze arrows ?

 

 

 

well, i havent tested bronze bolts or bronze arrows, but i know for sure bone bolts hit higher, and that the bone crossbow has a special..

 

 

 

it might be better overall ..compared to other cheap bolts \'

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NEW TEST

 

Stats: 92 range, Bone crossbow + bone bolts, +137 range bonus, at rock crabs

 

Results: Shot 100 bone bolts (no accumulator) in 4:53 min and achieved 3008 ranged xp in that 4:53

 

ESTIMATED EXP/HOUR = 36,958 XP/HOUR

 

GOLD WASTED: 4,914 GOLD/HOUR (no accumulator)

 

 

 

 

 

My test:

 

Method: Bone Crossbow and Bone Bolts at Bloodvelds



Timeframe       : 30 minutes

Range Level     : 71



Start Experience: 839,052

Final Experience: 855,468

Total Exp Gained: 16,416



Start Bolts     : 10,000

Final Bolts     : 9,353

Bolts Fired     : 647

Bolts Retrieved : 477

Break Rate      : 26.28%



Cost per Bolt   : 4gp

Cost/Bolts Fired: 2,588gp

Cost/Retrieved  : 1,908gp

Total Cost      : 680gp/30min



Timeframe: 60 Minutes



Total Exp Gained: 32,832

Total Cost      : 1360gp/hr

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Nice thread, it was about time too :) ! Range is finally getting the attention it deserves

 

 

 

Now to get a void set and compare 100 bronze knives with and without the set.

 

 

 

...Arg just realized I'd have to use the medium PC boats. I wonder if the 20 hours or so spent getting the void set would justify the extra XP/hour :-k

 

 

 

I can conduct the test as I have the full set along with the Ranger Helmet. I'll get to it now if you don't mind :P

 

 

 

I'll be back later with the information, for now, I'm off to a BBQ :thumbsup: .

 

 

 

EDIT: I have the numbers.

 

 

 

Test #1

 

 

 

Training at the caged Ogres at King Lathas' Training camp, it takes me 2:15 on average to throw off 100 Bronze Knives on rapid.

 

 

 

In Black Dragonhide Armour

 

 

 

Starting Exp - 5,060,239

 

Ending - 5,061,939

 

Experience gained in 2:15 - 1,700

 

Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,700) - 47,441

 

 

 

In Full Void Knight Ranged

 

 

 

Starting exp - 5,061,939

 

Ending - 5,063,815

 

Experience gained in 2:15 - 1876

 

Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,876) - 52,340

 

 

 

Full void knight ranged gives 4,899 more experience per hour than full black dragonhide does. VOID KNIGHT IS BETTER.

 

 

 

If it takes 20 hours to attain full VK, you will make up for the lost experience in, assuming you have used that 20 hours to range (which is 948,820 exp tallied up) in black d'hide, in 18 hours, not counting levels gained in that 20 hours.

 

 

 

Test #2

 

 

 

Training at the caged ogres at King Lathas' Training Ground, I trained for half an hour using the Dorgeshuun Crossbow...

 

 

 

Black Dragonhide Armour

 

 

 

Starting exp - 5,091,911

 

Ending exp - 5,110,347

 

Experience gained in 30:00 - 18,436

 

Experience gained per hour - 36,872

 

 

 

Full Void Knight Ranged

 

 

 

Starting exp - 5,071,703

 

Ending exp - 5,091,911

 

Experience gained in 30:00 - 20,208

 

Experience gained per hour - 40,426

 

 

 

Full void knight ranged gives 3,554 more experience per hour than Black Dragonhide. VOID KNIGHT RANGED IS BETTER.

 

 

 

If it takes 20 hours to attain full VK, you will make up for the lost experience in, assuming you have used that 20 hours to range (which is 737,440 exp tallied up) in black d'hide, in 18.2 hours, not counting levels gained in that 20 hours.

 

 

 

In conclusion, its probably better that you get Full void knight and a ranger helmet if you're planning to do this long-term. It seems I have made a good decision ::' .

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Training at the caged Ogres at King Lathas' Training camp, it takes me 2:15 on average to throw off 100 Bronze Knives on rapid.

 

 

 

In Black Dragonhide Armour

 

 

 

Starting Exp - 5,060,239

 

Ending - 5,061,939

 

Experience gained in 2:15 - 1,700

 

Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,700) - 47,441

 

 

 

In Full Void Knight Ranged

 

 

 

Starting exp - 5,061,939

 

Ending - 5,063,815

 

Experience gained in 2:15 - 1876

 

Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,876) - 52,340

 

 

 

Full void knight ranged gives 4,899 more experience per hour than full black dragonhide does.

 

 

 

If it takes 20 hours to attain full VK, you will make up for the lost experience in, assuming you have used that 20 hours to range (which is 948,820 exp tallied up) in black d'hide, in 18 hours, not counting levels gained in that 20 hours.

 

 

 

In conclusion, its probably better that you get Full void knight and a ranger helmet if you're planning to do this long-term. It seems I have made a good decision ::' .

 

 

 

Hmm, given the small difference between the 2 (176xp/135s), I don't think its statistically significant enough to derive such a conclusion

 

 

 

Still, it's nice to see there are now decent training methods that are relatively cheap (although I'm more interested in broad arrows :P)

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Training at the caged Ogres at King Lathas' Training camp, it takes me 2:15 on average to throw off 100 Bronze Knives on rapid.

 

 

 

In Black Dragonhide Armour

 

 

 

Starting Exp - 5,060,239

 

Ending - 5,061,939

 

Experience gained in 2:15 - 1,700

 

Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,700) - 47,441

 

 

 

In Full Void Knight Ranged

 

 

 

Starting exp - 5,061,939

 

Ending - 5,063,815

 

Experience gained in 2:15 - 1876

 

Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,876) - 52,340

 

 

 

Full void knight ranged gives 4,899 more experience per hour than full black dragonhide does.

 

 

 

If it takes 20 hours to attain full VK, you will make up for the lost experience in, assuming you have used that 20 hours to range (which is 948,820 exp tallied up) in black d'hide, in 18 hours, not counting levels gained in that 20 hours.

 

 

 

In conclusion, its probably better that you get Full void knight and a ranger helmet if you're planning to do this long-term. It seems I have made a good decision ::' .

 

 

 

Hmm, given the small difference between the 2 (176xp/135s), I don't think its statistically significant enough to derive such a conclusion

 

 

 

Still, it's nice to see there are now decent training methods that are relatively cheap (although I'm more interested in broad arrows :P)

 

 

 

I understand your observation. I'll conduct another test, this time of 30 minute length on the same monsters, except using the Dorgeshuun Crossbow and Bone Bolts.

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Training at the caged Ogres at King Lathas' Training camp, it takes me 2:15 on average to throw off 100 Bronze Knives on rapid.

 

 

 

In Black Dragonhide Armour

 

 

 

Starting Exp - 5,060,239

 

Ending - 5,061,939

 

Experience gained in 2:15 - 1,700

 

Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,700) - 47,441

 

 

 

In Full Void Knight Ranged

 

 

 

Starting exp - 5,061,939

 

Ending - 5,063,815

 

Experience gained in 2:15 - 1876

 

Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,876) - 52,340

 

 

 

Full void knight ranged gives 4,899 more experience per hour than full black dragonhide does.

 

 

 

If it takes 20 hours to attain full VK, you will make up for the lost experience in, assuming you have used that 20 hours to range (which is 948,820 exp tallied up) in black d'hide, in 18 hours, not counting levels gained in that 20 hours.

 

 

 

In conclusion, its probably better that you get Full void knight and a ranger helmet if you're planning to do this long-term. It seems I have made a good decision ::' .

 

 

 

Hmm, given the small difference between the 2 (176xp/135s), I don't think its statistically significant enough to derive such a conclusion

 

 

 

Still, it's nice to see there are now decent training methods that are relatively cheap (although I'm more interested in broad arrows :P)

 

 

 

 

 

void helps typically in higher end equipment it will yield a max hit of 3-6 extra damage.

 

 

 

example, crystal bow 91 ranged max was 23-25(not sure) however 99 ranged potted and prayer max was 29 with crystal bow

 

 

 

after pc range gear 91 ranged prayer only(maybe potted) i DEFINITELY hit a 31 with it on rapid.

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