Lunar_Drifter Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Join my chat if you ever need to talk to me. It's "M-0--0-S-E" (those are zeros) Ring of Wealth: Worth it? Now, the age old argument is between the group who think the RoW is the ultimate combat tool, and the other group who think it a waste of time and money. But, not many people have truly put this to the test. So, I think it's high-time that we make a big, huge, Tip.It sized experiment on it. Here's how it'll work: (1) Recruitment: For the tests to be accurate and fast, I'm going to need a few participants as well. Potential participants (that'd be you) must have a lot of time and patience to dedicate to this experiment. If you are not willing to kill thousands of monsters, recording every drop (accurately), then don't offer to fill the position. I'm thinking 3-5 participants (including myself) will suffice for this. (2) Experimenting: We'll start off with half of the group meleeing with the ring on, and the other half without. If there is an odd number, then RoW group will get an extra. The first case will be slaying 1,000 (one thousand) of a certain monster. I'll decide what monster based on experiences of mine and others.. haven't figured one out yet. Now, every time a monster is killed, the drop must be recorded, no matter how insignificant. Please record the number of the drop as well. If you'd like to avoid doing math, then drop the stackable item (that you're about to pick up) that's already in your inventory. Then, record how many of that item it dropped, and pick up the rest of your items you dropped. Please be accurate! If you mess up, though, don't be ashamed. Tell me, and we'll just warn others that there may be some slight inaccuracies. I'll be the first to admit that I'm gonna miss a number or two. NOTE: Please, if it drops nothing, then include that as well. Just put "nothing" in the Item Name field, and a "0" in the quantity. Thanks! (3) Concluding: Now once we have all the numbers, we'll put them all together in one big spreadsheet and make a graph and all that good stuff. We'll calculate the percentage of each drop, and hopefully what "wheel" it is on (common or rare wheel). Hopefully, that'll conclude and end the debate of whether or not it is useful. (4) Reporting: After we've done all this, we'll throw it together in one final report and present it to the general Tip.It population. Our experiment should be conclusive of one point or the other.. if not.. we'll do it again! ^.^ So now that we have the process down, we're going to need participants. Who's willing?! 1) Lunar_Drifter (RoW) 2) Brainymidget 3) Euphrenia (RoW) 4) hbk_hossack 5) klan_kaos Potential Participants (I'll talk to you tomorrow) Mat brainymidget maddavy2004 hbk_hossack klankaos (You'll have to provide your own RoW if you're to be in that group) In the meantime, we can discuss (on this thread or the already-existing) our personal thoughts about the ring and its usefulness. Please, no flaming or excessive vulgarity/harshness. Be nice. Respect each other's views. We're training on FIRE GIANTS! *sits and waits for fresh meat.. er.. volunteers* Anyone who is wanting to participate should download the attached spreadsheet. Put your name somewhere near the top on the right side so I know who made it. :) Happy killing! SPREADSHEET DOWNLOAD HERE Retired Tip.It Mod || Admin and Founder of Caesar 3 Mod Squad! All are welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath_at_UK Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I have a log of 552 kills at mith dragons, its just not with me atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatebringer Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I would personally love to test this out, but unfortunately, I hardly have any time to be on Runescape with all of the Homework I have, and alot of Important School activities coming up. 99 Fletching 99 Attack 99 Constitution 99 Cooking 99 StrengthGamertag: H8tebringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Fill me up for a post, i might consider doing this. I am not 100% sure, but i'll try my best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I would love to see these results and prove the RoW is a lie says thats their not right. Best of Luck. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainymidget Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Id be happy to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soma2035 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Before you start, I posted this on the other thread but I doubt people read it. Test it on Aberrant Spectres or Chaos Druids. I guarantee within two thousand kills each you WILL notice a difference in how fast you're collecting herbs. Certain monsters have higher "rare" rates than others, and since Double and Triple Herbs are on the rare wheel, or at least appear so, it's very recognizable there. And depending on the monster I may be willing to participate. Want to learn to Nex? The Nex Hunters are recruiting! Click for more information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbellz Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Havn't I seen a million threads about RoW testing before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddavy2004 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Ill help as long as the monsters arn't to strong for me :-k . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbk_hossack Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 count me in..but i'll have to be one of the ones without a ring of wealth :oops: \ Tat 38% of Tip.Iters put stupid made up statistics in their sigs. If you are one of the 62% that don't, put this in your sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchainmail Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 you should lower the sample to 100 chaos druids. (or whatever monster you use) That way, people can take 15 minutes to do it all, rather than 3 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enipeus Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I hear in the end of all these tests, ring of wealth is not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfie76 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 To remove any other (possibly hidden) variables - who knows what factors Jagex use to determine drops - you should probably have everyone kill X monsters with the ROW, then X monsters without. And the without team should probably be all equipping the same item (or no item) in the ring spot when conducting the test. In fact, you might be best to decide on a standard 'uniform' before you start ie full rune with glory, no cape, gloves or boots and a rune scimitar - so that any hitherto unknown function hidden deep in the runescape codebase is standard across all your participants. It might be a stretch, but perhaps getting participants that are all around the same skillset might be advantageous as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian5kamikaze Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Havn't I seen a million threads about RoW testing before? How many have actually followed through with it? Quit. PM me if you play The Conduit to exchange friend codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klankaos Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I'm interested. However, I'm only 86 combat. If you're willing to accept me, I'll be a part of the team. I need some combat experience anyways =D I think, maybe, ten people would be better for this. The results will be more conclusive. Being immature is a part of being mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22woger22 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Just a little bit of a suggestion for you Lunar_Drifter, you and your group should test the drops of POPULAR monsters. It would help with the general RuneScape contingent in deciding whether they should bring a zerker ring to the fire giants or a ring of wealth to the dust devils, etc. :) Good luck with your testing, I hope you guys pull it off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Havn't I seen a million threads about RoW testing before? How many have actually followed through with it? dozens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlordsagan Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Good luck with the tests. Wish I had some time to help you out "Be Excellent To Each Other" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 you should lower the sample to 100 chaos druids. (or whatever monster you use) That way, people can take 15 minutes to do it all, rather than 3 hours. 1k would be best, but 100 would be quick. i mean 100 wont be 15mins, but [bleep]... theirs no way id write all that [cabbage] down i got if i had to kill 1k also any1 going to do decent lvl things? like gargoyles? oh and if this is going to have every1 kill 100 with and without, then i vote something simple like moss giants or ankou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar_Drifter Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 you should lower the sample to 100 chaos druids. (or whatever monster you use) That way, people can take 15 minutes to do it all, rather than 3 hours. ....That completely takes the whole point out of it. Let's use an analogy: Say I have 100 pieces of food. Now, I want to sample that, so I take 10 pieces of food to eat. Now, concluding all of my information on this one 10-piece sample would not be wise at all. I could've gotten a bad batch, or ate them too fast, or was picky about something, etc. I would want to take more samples of bigger sample sizes. So, back to Runescape: If I only did 100 drops, then I wouldn't really be getting a nice, rounded representative of the whole thing. I could get lucky and have 100 drops of D Chains, or unlucky and have nothing. Now, from that first data alone, it says I have 100% chance of getting a D Chain, or 0% of getting one according to the second case. Now logically, you know that I won't get a D Chain 100% of the time. Taking a larger sample will even out that random stroke of luck and give an average for the drop rate. Got all that? I'll add all you guys in as potentials, and I'll talk to you tomorrow about this. :) G'night all! Havn't I seen a million threads about RoW testing before? How many have actually followed through with it? dozens. Show me? Have a uniform outfit for all I thought that was implied.. sorry. Yea, I was planning on having the same outfit. I'm thinking Rune Plate, Rune Legs, Rune Large/Berserker, Glory, Whip. No gloves or boots. Retired Tip.It Mod || Admin and Founder of Caesar 3 Mod Squad! All are welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Depending on the monster. I'll do it, I wear a RoW most of the time anyways, and I have recored over like 6000 drops from different things, it aint that bad. But I'm picky about what I kill. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Show me? search through the forums... yeah i know its a really crappy search feature for a forum because it always comes up with dumb [cabbage]. but its been done alot. im not downing your test, im just agreeing that its been done before with hellzbellz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian5kamikaze Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Show me? search through the forums... yeah i know its a really crappy search feature for a forum because it always comes up with dumb [cabbage]. but its been done alot. im not downing your test, im just agreeing that its been done before with hellzbellz Okay so what were the results? How accurate are they compared to this one? Quit. PM me if you play The Conduit to exchange friend codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoknight2 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I'll do it, but someone's gonna have to loan/sell me rune legs and berserker because i use better equipment instead of them usually. Put me up as defnitely ( but if rl gets in the way, then I'm gone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshot007111 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Not sure if anyone has posted this, but fire giants would be a perfect place to test this, because they have a wide range of drops. There's common (the junk), uncommon(rune stuff), and rare(drag meds and left halves). Plus they drop rune stuff sort of often, and it would be easy to notice of those drops are being improved or not. ~Guide to Solo'ing the KBD~ 99 Cooking | 99 Firemaking | 99 Attack | 99 defense | 99 Hitpoints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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