Goldenjkered Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Great guide, but I've got a bit of a problem. I'm 74 range and 60 prayer.I go there with 20 p pots, and a +16 prayer bonus and a +97 range bonus. I get out with around 200 bars and around 90k cash from alchables. I see other people getting 300 - 400 bars and 150k cash with the same set up and stats as me. I'm killing them near the entrance to the headquarters. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Whips: 3 Dragon Boots: 15 My 99's: Attack & Cooking Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Goldenjkered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geesch Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Great guide, but I've got a bit of a problem. I'm 74 range and 60 prayer.I go there with 20 p pots, and a +16 prayer bonus and a +97 range bonus. I get out with around 200 bars and around 90k cash from alchables. I see other people getting 300 - 400 bars and 150k cash with the same set up and stats as me. I'm killing them near the entrance to the headquarters. Is there something I'm doing wrong? you would be better off if you go south down by the geyser (sp?). it is in the south end. i went there with 75 range and 66 prayer and came out with not very much in comparison to others too. i tweaked my setup a bit and plan to go tomorrow. if i get the same result, i guess its just my luck, or lack of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordb88 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 u can try and use blessed d so u can get more bonuses, such as a robin instead of a mitre, or a fury instead of a sara ammy LOL invite? PM me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquriez Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Just went on my first trip using this guide, it was awesome. I took 15 prayer pots, and ended up with a clue scroll, 4 ranarrs, 6 cadantines, 2 kwuarms, 148k cash and 272 addy bars. Yeah, quite a low amount of bars... the drop rate came out at approximately 1:6 for me, maybe I was just unlucky. :-k Still, the cash and ranarrs alone more than paid for the prayer pots so the bars are pure profit. :thumbsup: I'll be going again soon for sure, just gonna tweak my gear a bit. Oh, I gained 74,592 exp too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garados Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Went in with 21 ppots. Used only 12 ppots. Had something to do. got 220 addy bars and 2 rannars and 110k gp. also 33 blood and 50 chaos. gonna level my prayer up more before going in again. Prob get my cons to level 75.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King77 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Very good guide :) For first trip, I think it wasn't that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn_Undies Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 just tested blk d hide bottoms vs monk bottoms Got 40 more kills w monk bottoms and a bigger addy bar to kill ratio in my favor But that one probly luck Also... Replacing the symbol with stole is worth it if u can they are only 150kish QUACK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S6Field1972 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 i have 22 p pots (4) and plan to get 60 range and red dhide currently 57 with blue dhide could i kill them efficently? Visit my awesome quest point cape Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis1330 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 what is the exp per hour doing this? how long does a trip last? I am not a skiller, but i do some skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geesch Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 i think there could be a couple adjustments made to the set up in order to maximize bonuses. i think swapping the holy symbol with a stole, d hide top for monk top, and d hide bottom for monk robes might be able to get a higher kill count which would lead to more bars and drops. The monk bottoms give 1 less prayer than the top, but the extra 15 range bonus added with the top makes up for it. also, the stole gives 10 to prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jij29 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 if i replace the zamorak book for an guthix(or sara say what to do best) book what ammy should i wear then ? holy or unholy thanks oh and what is that last thingy in this pic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanweb Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 if i replace the zamorak book for an guthix(or sara say what to do best) book what ammy should i wear then ? holy or unholy thanks oh and what is that last thingy in this pic ? Take a sara book and unholy symbol. It is a Holy Wrench, if you don't have one just take another p pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jij29 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 thanks and whit what quest i can get that holy wrench ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanweb Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 thanks and whit what quest i can get that holy wrench ? I think it was rum deal or cabin fever... Most likely rum deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jij29 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 k i wont be wearing that one bcuz i need 40 farming for it(farming is boring) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garados Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 you can save 1-2 ppots if you use the holy wrench..but if you are rich, i dont think it will matter :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep455_is_the_best Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Again, thanks! Really nice guide! But I dont like your sig.. :( [Whip drops: 13] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinalChaotic Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 5/10, not enough detail Fight Club, Invisible Monsters, Choke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nintendomaster2024 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 5/10, not enough detail That is one thing that bothered me; I was worried about going there the first time through because of the many questions that went unanswered, plus the many things that were not explained well enough or the lack of focused maps for areas, such as WHERE to go (although stated in the guide, some of us prefer having an actual picture of where to go rather than bland directions). It is nerve-wrecking to try to attempt this on the first run due to the lack of detailed instructions, but later on it diminishes. I believe more people would be willing to go through this if you just went into more detail about all aspects of the trip, rather than just what to bring (and even then, it could still be explained in more detail). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude1456 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 5/10, not enough detail That is one thing that bothered me; I was worried about going there the first time through because of the many questions that went unanswered, plus the many things that were not explained well enough or the lack of focused maps for areas, such as WHERE to go (although stated in the guide, some of us prefer having an actual picture of where to go rather than bland directions). It is nerve-wrecking to try to attempt this on the first run due to the lack of detailed instructions, but later on it diminishes. I believe more people would be willing to go through this if you just went into more detail about all aspects of the trip, rather than just what to bring (and even then, it could still be explained in more detail). i have to agree the first time i went i was wondering y on earth i might be risking 200k-300k. I kept wondering if i was gonna go down there and get 1 shot by some unknown monster. At the same time less ppl down there means more bars for the rest of us. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbaloney Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Could we bring a cannon into the armadyl chamber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianist4 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 This is my preferred setup: It's a bit expensive but I'm thinking it's one of the best there are. [img]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc124/pianist4/sig.jpg[/img] [img]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc124/pianist4/GrilledCat1.png[/img] [img]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc124/pianist4/siggygangsterpiano.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berrakus Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I have been trying this for the past couple of days and it's been working great. Been looking to train Range and Smithing and this a great way for both. Few things I discovered: 1) Since your outfit is a mix/match of Range and Prayer gear, it would probably be best to have a chart of the available options and their Range/Prayer Bonus to help people make the best outfit they can. Small bonuses can make a big difference since these are long trips. 2) You should note more about the Runes they drop. They drop 15 Air Runes, 30 Waters, and 11 Bloods at a time (not sure how many Natures and Chaos). These may sound small, but they add up. Most trips I leave with about 100 Bloods, 1000 Airs and 1500 Waters. At store prices, that's about an extra 100Kgp. 3) They occasionally drop 5 Swordfish. When I get these drops, if the Aviansies are not aggressive, I attack the lower leveled ones with no prayer until I use up all the fish. 4) There doesn't seem to be any difference in drop rate between the different level Aviansies so it's best just to stick with the lower leveled ones. 5) As long as you get a single hit in on a monster, you will get the drop when that monster dies (as long as no other player attacks that monster). Several Zammy monsters attack the Aviansies (Pyrefiends, Bloodvelds, Goraks, etc) so if you find an Aviansie getting owned by a Zammy monster, get one shot in on the Aviansie, move on, and come back to collect your drop. Also, you can do this with some of the surrounding monsters, depending on your Slayer level. Some of the best are: Bloodvelds - The Aviansie kill these guys pretty quickly and they drop Fire Runes, Blood Runes, and Rune Meds. Spiritual Warriors - These guys don't die as often, but almost all of their drops are alchable, and they drop Rune Longs, Halberds, and Kites. Spiritual Mages - These guys are often fighting with Werewolves. They drop small Runes quantities, but they drop the occasional Dragon Boots. Be careful with these guys because if you attack them when they are not fighting another monster, they will attack you and they can hit for 20+. Dragon Drops - 10 Meds, 9 Legs, 5 Skirts, 2 Left HalfPM me to have any potions made or crafting done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianist4 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Actually on second thought: Still expensive but on other peoples experiences monks bottoms with d hide top are better then monks top with d hide bottoms. [img]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc124/pianist4/sig.jpg[/img] [img]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc124/pianist4/GrilledCat1.png[/img] [img]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc124/pianist4/siggygangsterpiano.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coza_17 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Great guide...just one problem...theres no guide on how to camp there...which i think (for higher levels with bones to peaches) is possible...using this setup This means no prayer pots \ and you can stay there for as long as you want :thumbsup:. Also sara bracers mean there is no need for holy ammy so you can have your glory giving that nice +10 range :lol: You go there as normal, use prayer til you either run out or they stop attacking you (+11 isnt great but its still something) and once they have stopped attack you just pick on the lv 69, 71 and 83s which dont hit often on high enough defence. Ill update this in a while once iv seen if this works - im 99 def 86 range Also if you use lava staff then theres no need for earth staff and fire runes saving invo space :XD: EDIT: This does work although i advise you take 2 prayer pots so you can keep protect from range on while they are aggressive. Even with the low range offensive it still hits often. With this setup the attractor does not work though. The better setup would be black hide body instead of torags body and torags helm instead of neitiznot helm. I wouldnt try this unless you have 90 def 80 range though as they can hit a lot. Also seeing how well MSB and bronze arrows work :-w Bone bolts are a bit slower but hit much more often and harder and they are cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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