Jagex jagex jagex...They got it worng? Again?

[Maximusa]

In alot of other games drop trading is allowed and I would. Infact it was necessary sometimes to store items on mules.

 

 

 

In alot of other games world hopping is frowned upon, while in runescape it is encouraged! :o It is very hard to mine rune etc without world hopping and jagex appear to encourage this behavior. I dont believe they have a rule againt it while often in other games they do have a rule stating you shouldnt and can ban you for it.

 

 

 

Personally I dont see what the harm is in drop trading and its a silly rule. ..You could say the knowledge you gained from your main is an unfair advantage when you start a new account. Giving cash or items to a new account wont hurt anyone else.

 

 

 

Faaaar back in my earlier newbier days I had other accounts to help me scout wild when f2p mining. I trained them up and possibly maybe gave them armor from my main, i cant remember. =; That was when I didnt understand the rule and was accustomed to using mules to store items from previous games. Giving items from one char to a different char was second nature to me from 20 years of gaming.. :?: :-s

[Stewie_Griffen]

Because if drop trading was allowed, someone could get tons of blackmarks on an account and just drop the stuff to an innocent account with no real consequences.

[ddaanniiellh]

Point one.

 

I always thought the journey was more fun than the destination. And you don't have much of a journey by drop trading or otherwise trading items between accounts. If you achieve your goals too quickly, you get bored. Fast.

 

I am F2P, and it's freaking hard to raise levels high and not be bored to the point of quitting. If someone gave me enough money to buy all the buyable skills and more, that'd be nice, but I'd have a lot more fun actually getting stuff on my own.

 

 

 

Point two.

 

A level three being given 200m is pure luck, or generosity on the giver's part. Anyway, that's someone else giving up money. On the other hand, trading from one account of yours to another is your own action. It's the same thing as using a cheat on a video game.

 

 

 

Point three.

 

I would much prefer to see a level 100 have a rare than a level 3. Case in point: a level 16 walking around in full addy g and a santa during the halloween event. Then again, that's just me.

 

 

 

I don't think theres anything wrong with that, I have a pure def right now, that I'm earning money very slowly by collecting cowhides, and then after i get enough, I will start to merchant, earning enough to buy full run e (g) with chain, or god armor.

 

~Ddaanniiellh

[Thus]

I think they want everyone to work their way up with ALL accounts. also, autoers can dump all their logs onto one account and sell at once if it wasnt a rule

[Mat]

Not the greatest rule, i don't like it honestly. But there is nothing we can do about it #-o

[truffoo]

There is a small case to be made to allow for drop trading ... but not a good enough one for me.

 

 

 

The main use of drop trading is to pures. It is intended to give the pure a better chance at pking someone, either through weapons/armor/food that a non-drop traded player wouldn't necessarily have access to. To me, it comes under the same category as the safer-noob/tele-noob type issues. PKers want an easy kill so complain when they can't. Drop trading would give an unfair advantage and unbalance the game.

 

 

 

Also, as others have indicated, allowing drop trading opens a huge hole for scammers/gold sellers/macroers to keep their spoils before accounts get banned. Even if I agreed with legitimate drop trading, that downside is way too huge to justify the small benefit to a few players.

[Rebdragon]

Because if drop trading was allowed, someone could get tons of blackmarks on an account and just drop the stuff to an innocent account with no real consequences.

 

There's the thinking I was waiting for in this thread.

 

 

 

This rule isn't about the ramifications on the surface, but what it prevents below the obvious. Yes, I agree that on the surface it's a moronic rule- it's the player's items, nothing wrong with transfering the ownership back to themselves. But there are problems beyond that, one example being the above hypothesis. If people didn't suffer consequences for their bans, i.e. losing their items, how would the Runescape community react? Not very maturely, no doubt. In fact, to an extreme it could bring in-game chaos, with players breaking rules with no fear of losing any item of value, possibly resulting in the destroying ofany reputation Runescape still has left. Yah, don't think Jagex wants that.

 

 

 

So everyone, I urge you to look beyond the surface, to think as the above player did- what is it about this rule, no matter how idiotic it may appear, that makes it necessary for Jagex to keep and enforce?

[Peronix]

Because if drop trading was allowed, someone could get tons of blackmarks on an account and just drop the stuff to an innocent account with no real consequences.

 

There's the thinking I was waiting for in this thread.

 

 

 

This rule isn't about the ramifications on the surface, but what it prevents below the obvious. Yes, I agree that on the surface it's a moronic rule- it's the player's items, nothing wrong with transfering the ownership back to themselves. But there are problems beyond that, one example being the above hypothesis. If people didn't suffer consequences for their bans, i.e. losing their items, how would the Runescape community react? Not very maturely, no doubt. In fact, to an extreme it could bring in-game chaos, with players breaking rules with no fear of losing any item of value, possibly resulting in the destroying ofany reputation Runescape still has left. Yah, don't think Jagex wants that.

 

 

 

So everyone, I urge you to look beyond the surface, to think as the above player did- what is it about this rule, no matter how idiotic it may appear, that makes it necessary for Jagex to keep and enforce?

 

 

 

True that, but isn't having to start over on a level 3 character a consequence? Really, if you want to go around breaking rules without fear of consequence, you can just start a level 3 character right now and if it gets banned it won't matter.

[Orpheus]

Because if drop trading was allowed, someone could get tons of blackmarks on an account and just drop the stuff to an innocent account with no real consequences.

 

There's the thinking I was waiting for in this thread.

 

 

 

This rule isn't about the ramifications on the surface, but what it prevents below the obvious. Yes, I agree that on the surface it's a moronic rule- it's the player's items, nothing wrong with transfering the ownership back to themselves. But there are problems beyond that, one example being the above hypothesis. If people didn't suffer consequences for their bans, i.e. losing their items, how would the Runescape community react? Not very maturely, no doubt. In fact, to an extreme it could bring in-game chaos, with players breaking rules with no fear of losing any item of value, possibly resulting in the destroying ofany reputation Runescape still has left. Yah, don't think Jagex wants that.

 

 

 

So everyone, I urge you to look beyond the surface, to think as the above player did- what is it about this rule, no matter how idiotic it may appear, that makes it necessary for Jagex to keep and enforce?

 

 

 

Couldn't have worded my thoughts better myself. Seriously though, it is kinda pathetic when you see lv 10s running around with party hats, the only way to figure out how they get it is to ask them how they obtained the hat. They will 99/100 times say they merchanted. I call BS to that all the time because half the time almost NO skills are ranked. I personally own

 

a disk of returning, and I've had it as a gift from a friend who quit long ago, and I wonder where these low levels get their items.

 

 

 

Simpler form: If a level three has a rare and no ranked skills, and doesn't have any of the untradeable rares, report them.

[lchaosl]

That rule is there for simple balance purpose.

 

 

 

Imagine an average level 90 gets a party hat from a death drop, and sells it to get a fury, whip (mind you, he probably had that one already), dragon boots, barrow melee armor, maybe the supplies for a fire cape, etc...

 

 

 

Now he goes into cwar and find an average level 90, with full rune, whip or d scim, rune boots, and glory etc...

 

 

 

Now, think who the winner of the fight will be, I put my money on the rich level 90, personally. Did he win because of insane skills? Nope, just because he got very easy money off the ground... It's luck, so nothing can be done against it, but when you drop trade, you go against the normal order of things.

But it isn't the rich players fault the poor player is bad at the game. If you are poor, you shouldn't cwars/pk until you have better stuff, it is your own fault for going unprepared. The advantage the rich player had was that the other person is bad at the game, and you should always have an advantage over someone that is bad at the game.

 

 

 

There is only difference between getting it in luck as you described or drop trading is that you don't have to rely on luck to get rich. If it isn't unfair for the guy that found a party hat, it isn't unfair for a drop trader. The end result is the same, you get a lot of money for no work. Actually, at least the drop trader had to work for the money on his main instead of getting lucky.

 

 

 

Why would it be an advantage to get 100mil on my lvl 3 from drop trading as opposed to getting 100mil from merchanting on that lvl 3? The end result is the exact same, so the advantage can't be different. The end result is the only way you could possibly have an advantage, it doesn't matter how you get there. So what if I didn't work for it on the lvl 3, that is no advantage at all, all it did was stop me from needing to repeat what I just did even more.

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with whoever said that Jagex has that rule just so people play longer and pay more, not because of fairness.

 

 

 

2 pkers are fighting with the exact same equipment and stats. One worked for 100mil, the other got 100mil from a drop trade. Who has the advantage in that fight?

 

If people didn't suffer consequences for their bans, i.e. losing their items, how would the Runescape community react? Not very maturely, no doubt. In fact, to an extreme it could bring in-game chaos, with players breaking rules with no fear of losing any item of value, possibly resulting in the destroying ofany reputation Runescape still has left. Yah, don't think Jagex wants that.

Its called a lvl 3 throwaway account....

[doomy]

Who doesn't drop trade anyway? :-s

[lchaosl]

Who doesn't drop trade anyway? :-s

What does that have to do with the topic of the thread? If you read it, the OP asks why such a rule is in the game. If you read it and still posted this, you are just a forum [bleep] going for +1s. If you aren't going to contribute just don't post.

[123Yourgone]

I think they want everyone to work their way up with ALL accounts. also, autoers can dump all their logs onto one account and sell at once if it wasnt a rule

Becouse autoers have the utmost respect for jagex rules right? :roll: :lol:

 

Worst post ive ever seen... ever.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Starting out with anything over 25GP on another account is not starting out equally.

 

 

 

Having the money on your main account doesn't mean you can give the money to your pure and continue from there. It's still an unfair advantage since not everyone that level has a main that can give them obscene amounts of money.

 

 

 

That rule is put there to ensure equality amongst players of similar levels, and to prevent players from using just one account to get tons of cash and not leveling up another account (which, entirely, was the point of creating that second account -- even PKers need to level up Hitpoints, you know...).

 

 

 

Who doesn't drop trade anyway? :-s

 

 

 

I sure as hell don't. Got a problem with it?

[Profins]

Well..It isn't allowed to interact between your accounts so yeah..that IS breaking the rule. Kthxbai.

[icecube]

Who doesn't drop trade anyway? :-s

 

I've never drop traded :-s

[doomy]

Who doesn't drop trade anyway? :-s

 

I've never drop traded :-s

 

Have more then 1 acc?

[Peronix]

I think they want everyone to work their way up with ALL accounts. also, autoers can dump all their logs onto one account and sell at once if it wasnt a rule

Becouse autoers have the utmost respect for jagex rules right? :roll: :lol:

 

Worst post ive ever seen... ever.

 

 

 

I think he meant they could do it without Jagex being alerted to suspicious behavior. If it wasn't a rule they wouldn't be looking for people doing it to ban them.

 

 

 

You obviously don't browse the forums much if that's the worst you've seen...

[Ouchy]

well if its your money then you should be able to do what ever you want with it even if it is drop trading or whatever

[123Yourgone]

I think they want everyone to work their way up with ALL accounts. also, autoers can dump all their logs onto one account and sell at once if it wasnt a rule

Becouse autoers have the utmost respect for jagex rules right? :roll: :lol:

 

Worst post ive ever seen... ever.

 

 

 

I think he meant they could do it without Jagex being alerted to suspicious behavior. If it wasn't a rule they wouldn't be looking for people doing it to ban them.

 

 

 

You obviously don't browse the forums much if that's the worst you've seen...

But they dont get cought doing it, autoers do it daily regardless of the rules, and if you look at my post count its pretty damned obvious i browse the forums often.

 

Do you know how many trades go on in runescape every SECOND? if you think jagex is monitoring them all trying to catch autoers your sadly mistaken.

[flying_death_bombs55]

im beggining to remember why i left TIF...

 

Because people had their own opinions, that weren't wrong?

 

 

 

No, because it is full of argumentative stubborn people with the brain power of a chip.

 

 

 

There are a few people who have their own opinions, but most just go withthe flow or disagree with everything.

 

 

 

I agree with sirgudi, sometimes people just argue for the sake of argueing. Even if you attempt to talk sense into them they just go ballistic. :evil:

[Reztral]

Should probably just deal with the rule so that way you don't get banned.

[El_Tigre]

read new post further on finally figured out :idea:

[Catnip1337]

Ironic how you got the title wrong.

[Aus_Fighter]

Don't even think about doing it guys.. I was banned last year and lost about 64 rares

 

 

 

It's not worth it :shame: