R2_Pleasent Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Some will recognize me as a merchant, some will recognize me as a GP seller. I have sold somewhere near 19 Billion GP on Runescape since February. This update took me completely by surprise, for many reasons. First of all, this is but a small dent in the massive machine that is Real World Trading. There will ALWAYS be a way to transfer gold to another player. This is a massively played multiplayer game, you cannot control it. The efforts of Jagex to take away all possible trade methods will ultimately DESTROY their own game! There are too many people willing to spend their money on gold to stop it. Secondly, going after duel arena traders is the wrong move. The people who do sell via the Duel Arena are the personal sellers. They are the ones who do it discretely, and the ones with the least negative effect on the game. The people that ruin the game are the companies, with their auto-talkers in F2P, and their macro'ers all over the place on F2P, and even on P2P. These sellers all sell via trades, not via stakes, although it's quite obvious you plan to take away direct trading shortly as well. All in all, from a GP seller's standpoint, I feel like I've destroyed Jagex. It's a mixed feeling, in one way, it means that my customer base will dwindle, and in another way, it means I've actually had a huge effect on a big company. Pretty interesting. If you continue to kill the parts of the game your community loves, soon they will realize that you do not care for them at all, and they will move on to a much more player-friendly competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydraides Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 :-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke_Freedom Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 You have a lot of guts here, hehe. :) Just know you did well, done what I should have. Respect. ;) And obviously I agree completely. :P ~Duke Freedom The value of my bank at its height. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 250 billion+.Most likely the largest trade in RuneScape ever. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 70 billion+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanGM Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Wow, you DO have guts to post here. You're banned, and this thread will be deleted/locked, but good post. I know you're from [Caution: Jagex Rule Violation] too ;)( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisc6 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 is this the r2 pleasant which single handedly at one point controlled most of the rares market a few years ago :uhh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2_Pleasent Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 I am the real R2Pleasent, and I do understand I may not be welcome here, but I just wanted to give a slight Real Trader's perspective on things. I am not here to advocate what I do, nor am I here to speak against it. I am simply expressing my views on this excuse for a fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punc Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I have sold somewhere near 19 Billion GP on Runescape since February. I'd say say on that one krisc6 :P Yes, this update failed, but seeing they are adressing trading soon, I'm guessing they are trying to close down all ways of RWTing. Which could, depending on how they adress it, turn out quite painfull for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopianflame Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Some will recognize me as a merchant, some will recognize me as a GP seller. I have sold somewhere near 19 Billion GP on Runescape since February. This update took me completely by surprise, for many reasons. First of all, this is but a small dent in the massive machine that is Real World Trading. There will ALWAYS be a way to transfer gold to another player. This is a massively played multiplayer game, you cannot control it. The efforts of Jagex to take away all possible trade methods will ultimately DESTROY their own game! There are too many people willing to spend their money on gold to stop it. Secondly, going after duel arena traders is the wrong move. The people who do sell via the Duel Arena are the personal sellers. They are the ones who do it discretely, and the ones with the least negative effect on the game. The people that ruin the game are the companies, with their auto-talkers in F2P, and their macro'ers all over the place on F2P, and even on P2P. These sellers all sell via trades, not via stakes, although it's quite obvious you plan to take away direct trading shortly as well. All in all, from a GP seller's standpoint, I feel like I've destroyed Jagex. It's a mixed feeling, in one way, it means that my customer base will dwindle, and in another way, it means I've actually had a huge effect on a big company. Pretty interesting. If you continue to kill the parts of the game your community loves, soon they will realize that you do not care for them at all, and they will move on to a much more player-friendly competitor. You and your ego, you certainly have not changed in the least. there are no stupid questions just way too many inquisitive idiots balance is scary to people who like things easy for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryto Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Why did you stop using your real tif account and signature? EDIT:oh, i see, your other account is banned. When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~Jonathan SwiftWebsite Updates/Corrections here. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT! Crewbie's Missions!Contributor of the Day!Thanks to artists: Destro3979, Guthix121, Shivers21, and Unoalexi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubeMage128 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Good to know that some people find their entertainment by gloating how they (Almost) singlehandedly destroyed a recreational game thousands of people play on a fansite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I guess it's sorta good we got a view from an ex-con. I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voldmort0 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I agree completely with your 2nd point about going after the duel arena transferrers, even though they do affect it after all. It is not worth completely ruining staking (which I found quite fun, and got VERY ticked off by this update) because of only a percentage of RL trading. On another note, 19Bil in 9 months? You're sad. RL traders spoil it all tbh. Runescaper since June 2005Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willysp Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 i kinda hope jagex does go under, if they are stupid enough to do this sort of they, they dont deserve to control a company. They need to place the regular players over the gold sellers/buyers, or else the real players will get sick of it and find a better gamecough wow cough My WoW character, gnome warlock Saldomar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexek Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I understand what you are saying, and it definitely makes sense. They are pursuing the wrong target, so to speak. This will likely be locked/deleted, but I think it would be nice to allow everyone to see your view, as you have single handedly experienced what Jagex is trying to condemn, and what know what efforts they should be making. PoetryIndexed Picture 1Indexed Picture 2 Killed my maxed Zerker pure April 2010 Rebooting Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2_Pleasent Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 The real issue here is that Jagex is too stubborn to accept the fact that there are some problems which cannot be completely fixed. They seem to be planning on taking out nearly all player to player interaction, item-wise, in hopes of killing transfer methods. The fact is, by doing this, they are also killing what makes their game so successful. They are in essence turning Runescape into a single player game. For a sophisticated game like WoW, this might be feasible, because the gameplay itself, even without human interaction is very interesting and complex. Runescape, however, is an EXTREMELY simple game, the only complexity comes from player to player interaction. By eliminating this, they are ruining what makes this game successful, and ultimately costing themselves huge amounts of money and negative publicity. And to all of you saying I'm gloating, you have nobody to blame but Jagex for that. They are killing their game because they cannot keep up with Real World Trading. There are many other ways they could fix this problem, however they have chosen the most simple, lowest cost strategy of doing so, and they will soon pay the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_blob Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I understand and completely agree with what you're saying. They're obviously going after the wrong people and it will just hurt the game as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_tallest1 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Knowledgeable or not you're ban evading. Cya. 571st to 99 Fm Nov. 4 '06 - 315th to 99 Crafting Mar. 3 '07 - 3410th to 99 Fishing Sept. 18 '0726378th to 99 Cooking Oct. 16 '07 -.- 99 Thieving Dec. 29 '07 - 1343rd to 99 Farming June 5 '081807th to 99 Agility Nov. 8 '08 - 3094th to 99 Smithing Feb. 14 '092012 total - 91 combat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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