UK population could soar to 90m

[GrimHams]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... pop125.xml

 

 

 

The population of the United Kingdom could soar to 90 million by the middle of the century, government statisticians will say this week.

 

 

 

Such an increase, driven by immigration and a rising birthrate, would add 50 per cent to today's population.

 

 

 

It would be the equivalent of building a new city the size of Sheffield every year and would put extreme pressure on housing, transport and public services.

 

 

 

Also

The highest birthrate in the UK is among Pakistani-born women, who have an average of 4.7 children each. Last year, 22 per cent of births in the UK were to foreign-born women.

 

 

 

Also a small point at the bottom casts fears over education: Britain's schools are being pushed to breaking point by the rising tide of immigrant pupils, according to the National Association of Headteachers.

 

 

 

It said that many schools could not cope with the influx, which threatens to change the culture of some schools.

 

 

 

Since the EU expanded in 2004, about 170,000 children from Poland, 30,400 from Lithuania, 28,700 from Slovakia and 12,900 from the Czech Republic have joined classes in British schools.

 

 

 

Time continue sticking our heads in the sand to stay "PC" and keep the liberals and immigrants in our country happy? or is it time to do something about the threat of immigration to the UK. Ok i'm not going to try to say "you should all join the BNP and agree with me that multi-culturalism doesn't work" but at least try to get the likes of the tories and Labour to give us some concrete plans to stop immigration in such numbers. Some fake proposals to keep the British people happy is not good enough at the moment, and strict measures need to be in place. Lets discuss this and not take it to a "is the BNP evil or not" thanks.

[Mercifull]

Projections != Predictions.

[mrmyk]

Wasn't this on the news a few years ago. Why can't the UK be like Austrailia, only letting in people if they are needed or will be useful to the economy :( (even though the immigrants have been helping the economy a lot).

[BlueLancer]

Countries should preserve their cultural heritage... But if more people are going to come in anyways, why hate on them?

 

 

 

Look at the US. The only people (sadly) that lost culture and had their country infiltrated by strangers are the native americans. But still, besides the southern states there is a fairly low level of racism, the country is thriving economically, even a fresh immigrant has realistic chances of becoming rich etc.

 

 

 

Having many cultures and ethnicities in 1 country doesn't instantly translate to -> bad. The American colonies weren't just built by british rebels, they had inhabitants from all over the world, they intermixed and created an economy.. And look where it lead to.

 

 

 

Political hostility aside, the US is a perfect example of what "diversity" can ultimately achieve. Sure, some minorities will statistically stay poorer, but those who put effort in education/small businesses will nearly without an exception get better lives for their families.

 

 

 

And, it doesn't hurt you or me. Just walk around in New York. Within a small area you could see a mosque, church, synagogue and 50 other temples for religions you haven't even heard about. Who benefits from taking those as 'strange'?

[l0l0lpur3]

hippies consider it "multiculturalism" but tbh its stupid. due to "Human rights" they cant deport illegals/"failed asylum seekers", and due to EU laws they have to let east-european immigrants in and let them leech off the system, although i bet if someone went to france or spain for example and did the same , nothing would happen. lots of people with good qualifications etc leave everyday because all taxes goto helping people who do NOTHING. look at this:

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 680430.ece a certain quote from it:

 

Where immigrants to the UK come from

 

1 India 92,000

 

2 Australia 78,000

 

3 Poland 69,000

 

4 South Africa 63,000

 

5 US 50,000

 

6 China 49,000

 

7 Pakistan 46,000

 

8 Germany 43,000

 

9 France 28,000

 

10 New Zealand 27,000

 

11 Spain 27,000

 

12 Philippines 20,000

 

13 Nigeria 19,000

 

14 Japan 17,000

 

15 Bangladesh 17,000

 

 

 

Where British citizens choose to emigrate

 

1 Australia 71,000

 

2 Spain 58,000

 

3 France 42,000

 

4 New Zealand 30,000

 

5 US 25,000

 

6 Canada 17,000

 

7 Netherlands 8,000

 

8 UAE 7,000

 

9 Germany 6,000

 

10 South Africa 6,000

 

im hoping to be one of the ones emigrating from the UK in afew years after i get afew qualifications etc here. i remember something about how in a polish newspaper it said that alot of polish people come here just because they know they can scrounge off the benefits system etc.

[baron8000]

current population density of the UK = 246 pop/km2

 

 

 

projected population density if pop. rises to 90m = 370 pop/km2

 

 

 

considering South Korea is managing to support a population density of 480 just fine, as is the Netherlands at 392, as is Gibraltar at a staggering 1,272, I don't think we have an issue just yet.

[l0l0lpur3]

current population density of the UK = 246 pop/km2

 

 

 

projected population density if pop. rises to 90m = 370 pop/km2

 

 

 

considering South Korea is managing to support a population density of 480 just fine, as is the Netherlands at 392, as is Gibraltar at a staggering 1,272, I don't think we have an issue just yet.

 

compare the public services etc and what taxes are used for though, in the UK alot of tax money is used on keeping worthless scroungers who have never worked a day of their life alive.

 

 

 

also england is already at 388.7/kmÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâò , scotland is 65/kmÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâò, wales is 140/kmÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâò and NI is 122/kmÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâò according to wikipedia, and most people coming to the UK move to england rather than the others. (alot of people even think UK = england) so its basically england which is being overpopulated, not the UK as a whole

[OldJoe]

Glad i'm living in Sweden, i couldn't cope with so many people.

[1_man_army]

I wonder what reason a supporter of a bigoted party like the BNP has in posting about hypothetical population increases.....

[Hydraides]

Awesome, All the more girls to choose from

[GrimHams]

I wonder what reason a supporter of a bigoted party like the BNP has in posting about hypothetical population increases.....

 

 

 

Ouch, right in the eye. Its news, i said in my post that i'm not posting it because i'm a member of the BNP, just because i think its valid news that could effect people on the forum. Shielding people from government predictions isn't a good thing.

 

 

 

Also with the "bigot" comment, you might as well go the whole way and just call me a nazi. :roll:

[Ginger_Warrior]

:lol:

 

 

 

hippies consider it "multiculturalism" but tbh its stupid. due to "Human rights" they cant deport illegals/"failed asylum seekers", and due to EU laws they have to let east-european immigrants in and let them leech off the system, although i bet if someone went to france or spain for example and did the same , nothing would happen. lots of people with good qualifications etc leave everyday because all taxes goto helping people who do NOTHING. look at this:

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 680430.ece a certain quote from it:

 

Where immigrants to the UK come from

 

1 India 92,000

 

2 Australia 78,000

 

3 Poland 69,000

 

4 South Africa 63,000

 

5 US 50,000

 

6 China 49,000

 

7 Pakistan 46,000

 

8 Germany 43,000

 

9 France 28,000

 

10 New Zealand 27,000

 

11 Spain 27,000

 

12 Philippines 20,000

 

13 Nigeria 19,000

 

14 Japan 17,000

 

15 Bangladesh 17,000

 

 

 

Where British citizens choose to emigrate

 

1 Australia 71,000

 

2 Spain 58,000

 

3 France 42,000

 

4 New Zealand 30,000

 

5 US 25,000

 

6 Canada 17,000

 

7 Netherlands 8,000

 

8 UAE 7,000

 

9 Germany 6,000

 

10 South Africa 6,000

 

im hoping to be one of the ones emigrating from the UK in afew years after i get afew qualifications etc here. i remember something about how in a polish newspaper it said that alot of polish people come here just because they know they can scrounge off the benefits system etc.

 

Congratulations on contradicting yourself. According to that source, most of our immigration comes from India (not inside the EU). Thus, your (bolded) analogy has no actual backing does it?

 

 

 

I wonder what reason a supporter of a bigoted party like the BNP has in posting about hypothetical population increases.....

 

Indeed, considering they also allege that White Britons will be ethnic minority in the UK in 60 years' time. They base that on the findings of one demographer, who through fear of being branded a racist, can't (or won't) reveal his/her name, who said it would actually be in 100 years' time anyway, not 60.

 

 

 

In short, the BNP has a history of twisting facts.

 

 

 

I still have not seen any evidence to suggest immigration is a bad thing. Yes, they put a strain on public services. Then again, so would an increase in the white British population.

 

 

 

BTW, considering Britain is made up of 15% foreigners (that's actually lower than most countries, despite what the BNP's leaflets might imply), and we have an ageing population, having 22% of our children born from foreigners isn't actually that bad of a figure. Especially since, conversely, 78% must be being born from British mothers.

 

 

 

Stats will tell you whatever you want to see.

[Biabf]

I wonder what reason a supporter of a bigoted party like the BNP has in posting about hypothetical population increases.....

 

 

 

Ouch, right in the eye. Its news, i said in my post that i'm not posting it because i'm a member of the BNP, just because i think its valid news that could effect people on the forum. Shielding people from government predictions isn't a good thing.

 

 

 

Also with the "bigot" comment, you might as well go the whole way and just call me a nazi. :roll:

Well it is pretty similar. :?

 

 

 

As a post before said, I think mrmyk is right, we should take on the immigration laws of Australia.

[1_man_army]

I wonder what reason a supporter of a bigoted party like the BNP has in posting about hypothetical population increases.....

 

 

 

Ouch, right in the eye. Its news, i said in my post that i'm not posting it because i'm a member of the BNP, just because i think its valid news that could effect people on the forum. Shielding people from government predictions isn't a good thing.

 

 

 

Also with the "bigot" comment, you might as well go the whole way and just call me a nazi. :roll:

 

 

 

It really wouldn't be much of a stretch when you break down the details would it? It's no coincidence that your posting about immigration, while being a supporter of a racist party (although now they try to hide it because of legal reasons) and lets not pretend that it isn't.

 

 

 

I'm not under any illusions as to the reasons behind this post - spreading your rubbish about etho-nationalism and your xenophobia to others to legitimise your horrible little views to yourself and others and anyone who understands what the BNP are truly about should be able to see that. So lets cut the crap about being shielded from government predictions.

 

 

 

Quite frankly you and your party's views disgust me. I'd much rather a nation full of immigrants and foreigners rather than a nation of people like yourself. I find you, your so-called political party's views and your avatar quite offensive. Now you can try to be clever and twist what I say to make a point but lets face it, we both know what the BNP are really about you can try to mask it and deny it but its still true and we both know it.

 

 

 

As a footnote I'd like to point out that if I am in anyway punished by tip.it for this flaming it would be a complete hypocracy considering the offensive content that I'm flaming.

[Bubsa]

Wasn't this on the news a few years ago. Why can't the UK be like Austrailia, only letting in people if they are needed or will be useful to the economy :( (even though the immigrants have been helping the economy a lot).

 

 

 

Because of Europe and the free market.

 

 

 

considering South Korea is managing to support a population density of 480 just fine

 

 

 

I wouldn't quite say that, but I get your point.

[l0l0lpur3]

:lol:

 

 

 

hippies consider it "multiculturalism" but tbh its stupid. due to "Human rights" they cant deport illegals/"failed asylum seekers", and due to EU laws they have to let east-european immigrants in and let them leech off the system, although i bet if someone went to france or spain for example and did the same , nothing would happen. lots of people with good qualifications etc leave everyday because all taxes goto helping people who do NOTHING. look at this:

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 680430.ece a certain quote from it:

 

Where immigrants to the UK come from

 

1 India 92,000

 

2 Australia 78,000

 

3 Poland 69,000

 

4 South Africa 63,000

 

5 US 50,000

 

6 China 49,000

 

7 Pakistan 46,000

 

8 Germany 43,000

 

9 France 28,000

 

10 New Zealand 27,000

 

11 Spain 27,000

 

12 Philippines 20,000

 

13 Nigeria 19,000

 

14 Japan 17,000

 

15 Bangladesh 17,000

 

 

 

Where British citizens choose to emigrate

 

1 Australia 71,000

 

2 Spain 58,000

 

3 France 42,000

 

4 New Zealand 30,000

 

5 US 25,000

 

6 Canada 17,000

 

7 Netherlands 8,000

 

8 UAE 7,000

 

9 Germany 6,000

 

10 South Africa 6,000

 

im hoping to be one of the ones emigrating from the UK in afew years after i get afew qualifications etc here. i remember something about how in a polish newspaper it said that alot of polish people come here just because they know they can scrounge off the benefits system etc.

 

Congratulations on contradicting yourself. According to that source, most of our immigration comes from India (not inside the EU). Thus, your (bolded) analogy has no actual backing does it?

 

 

 

I wonder what reason a supporter of a bigoted party like the BNP has in posting about hypothetical population increases.....

 

Indeed, considering they also allege that White Britons will be ethnic minority in the UK in 60 years' time. They base that on the findings of one demographer, who through fear of being branded a racist, can't (or won't) reveal his/her name, who said it would actually be in 100 years' time anyway, not 60.

 

 

 

In short, the BNP has a history of twisting facts.

 

 

 

I still have not seen any evidence to suggest immigration is a bad thing. Yes, they put a strain on public services. Then again, so would an increase in the white British population.

 

 

 

BTW, considering Britain is made up of 15% foreigners (that's actually lower than most countries, despite what the BNP's leaflets might imply), and we have an ageing population, having 22% of our children born from foreigners isn't actually that bad of a figure. Especially since, conversely, 78% must be being born from British mothers.

 

 

 

Stats will tell you whatever you want to see.

 

the cant kick out illegals and the cant stop eastern europeans where 2 different points, altho i was *slightly* suprised at some of the numbers when i saw that thing

[Ginger_Warrior]

[hide]

:lol:

 

 

 

hippies consider it "multiculturalism" but tbh its stupid. due to "Human rights" they cant deport illegals/"failed asylum seekers", and due to EU laws they have to let east-european immigrants in and let them leech off the system, although i bet if someone went to france or spain for example and did the same , nothing would happen. lots of people with good qualifications etc leave everyday because all taxes goto helping people who do NOTHING. look at this:

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 680430.ece a certain quote from it:

 

Where immigrants to the UK come from

 

1 India 92,000

 

2 Australia 78,000

 

3 Poland 69,000

 

4 South Africa 63,000

 

5 US 50,000

 

6 China 49,000

 

7 Pakistan 46,000

 

8 Germany 43,000

 

9 France 28,000

 

10 New Zealand 27,000

 

11 Spain 27,000

 

12 Philippines 20,000

 

13 Nigeria 19,000

 

14 Japan 17,000

 

15 Bangladesh 17,000

 

 

 

Where British citizens choose to emigrate

 

1 Australia 71,000

 

2 Spain 58,000

 

3 France 42,000

 

4 New Zealand 30,000

 

5 US 25,000

 

6 Canada 17,000

 

7 Netherlands 8,000

 

8 UAE 7,000

 

9 Germany 6,000

 

10 South Africa 6,000

 

im hoping to be one of the ones emigrating from the UK in afew years after i get afew qualifications etc here. i remember something about how in a polish newspaper it said that alot of polish people come here just because they know they can scrounge off the benefits system etc.

 

Congratulations on contradicting yourself. According to that source, most of our immigration comes from India (not inside the EU). Thus, your (bolded) analogy has no actual backing does it?

 

 

 

I wonder what reason a supporter of a bigoted party like the BNP has in posting about hypothetical population increases.....

 

Indeed, considering they also allege that White Britons will be ethnic minority in the UK in 60 years' time. They base that on the findings of one demographer, who through fear of being branded a racist, can't (or won't) reveal his/her name, who said it would actually be in 100 years' time anyway, not 60.

 

 

 

In short, the BNP has a history of twisting facts.

 

 

 

I still have not seen any evidence to suggest immigration is a bad thing. Yes, they put a strain on public services. Then again, so would an increase in the white British population.

 

 

 

BTW, considering Britain is made up of 15% foreigners (that's actually lower than most countries, despite what the BNP's leaflets might imply), and we have an ageing population, having 22% of our children born from foreigners isn't actually that bad of a figure. Especially since, conversely, 78% must be being born from British mothers.

 

 

 

Stats will tell you whatever you want to see.

[/hide]

 

the cant kick out illegals and the cant stop eastern europeans where 2 different points

 

Since when can't we kick out illegal immigrants? Illegal immigration there's no problem with. You're confusing illegal immigration with asylum. The two are completely different.

 

 

 

As for Eastern Europeans, give me one source which suggests all they do is come over here and scrounge off our benefits. I'll confess, a few do, but the vast majority of them are hard working, contributing members of our economy, who also so happen to back taxes which then get repumped into those public services. In reality, they're actually paying for their own welfare.

[Biabf]

[hide]

:lol:

 

 

 

hippies consider it "multiculturalism" but tbh its stupid. due to "Human rights" they cant deport illegals/"failed asylum seekers", and due to EU laws they have to let east-european immigrants in and let them leech off the system, although i bet if someone went to france or spain for example and did the same , nothing would happen. lots of people with good qualifications etc leave everyday because all taxes goto helping people who do NOTHING. look at this:

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 680430.ece a certain quote from it:

 

Where immigrants to the UK come from

 

1 India 92,000

 

2 Australia 78,000

 

3 Poland 69,000

 

4 South Africa 63,000

 

5 US 50,000

 

6 China 49,000

 

7 Pakistan 46,000

 

8 Germany 43,000

 

9 France 28,000

 

10 New Zealand 27,000

 

11 Spain 27,000

 

12 Philippines 20,000

 

13 Nigeria 19,000

 

14 Japan 17,000

 

15 Bangladesh 17,000

 

 

 

Where British citizens choose to emigrate

 

1 Australia 71,000

 

2 Spain 58,000

 

3 France 42,000

 

4 New Zealand 30,000

 

5 US 25,000

 

6 Canada 17,000

 

7 Netherlands 8,000

 

8 UAE 7,000

 

9 Germany 6,000

 

10 South Africa 6,000

 

im hoping to be one of the ones emigrating from the UK in afew years after i get afew qualifications etc here. i remember something about how in a polish newspaper it said that alot of polish people come here just because they know they can scrounge off the benefits system etc.

 

Congratulations on contradicting yourself. According to that source, most of our immigration comes from India (not inside the EU). Thus, your (bolded) analogy has no actual backing does it?

 

 

 

I wonder what reason a supporter of a bigoted party like the BNP has in posting about hypothetical population increases.....

 

Indeed, considering they also allege that White Britons will be ethnic minority in the UK in 60 years' time. They base that on the findings of one demographer, who through fear of being branded a racist, can't (or won't) reveal his/her name, who said it would actually be in 100 years' time anyway, not 60.

 

 

 

In short, the BNP has a history of twisting facts.

 

 

 

I still have not seen any evidence to suggest immigration is a bad thing. Yes, they put a strain on public services. Then again, so would an increase in the white British population.

 

 

 

BTW, considering Britain is made up of 15% foreigners (that's actually lower than most countries, despite what the BNP's leaflets might imply), and we have an ageing population, having 22% of our children born from foreigners isn't actually that bad of a figure. Especially since, conversely, 78% must be being born from British mothers.

 

 

 

Stats will tell you whatever you want to see.

[/hide]

 

the cant kick out illegals and the cant stop eastern europeans where 2 different points

 

Since when can't we kick out illegal immigrants? Illegal immigration there's no problem with. You're confusing illegal immigration with asylum. The two are completely different.

 

 

 

As for Eastern Europeans, give me one source which suggests all they do is come over here and scrounge off our benefits. I'll confess, a few do, but the vast majority of them are hard working, contributing members of our economy, who also so happen to back taxes which then get repumped into those public services. In reality, they're actually paying for their own welfare.

I heard a lot of nurses and doctors from Eastern Europe are coming over to work, I think we should welcome them and kick out the immigrants that come over the scrounge off benefits after taking back the benefits they took.

[Phil]

As for Eastern Europeans, give me one source which suggests all they do is come over here and scrounge off our benefits. I'll confess, a few do, but the vast majority of them are hard working, contributing members of our economy, who also so happen to back taxes which then get repumped into those public services. In reality, they're actually paying for their own welfare.

 

Agreeing with you here. I know quite a few Polish people now. All are hard working decent people, unlike a few Scottish people I know.

[BlueLancer]

As for Eastern Europeans, give me one source which suggests all they do is come over here and scrounge off our benefits. I'll confess, a few do, but the vast majority of them are hard working, contributing members of our economy, who also so happen to back taxes which then get repumped into those public services. In reality, they're actually paying for their own welfare.

 

Agreeing with you here. I know quite a few Polish people now. All are hard working decent people, unlike a few Scottish people I know.

 

 

 

I agree, nearly every person I know who originates from the balkans or eastern europe is an extremely honest, family centered and hard working person.

 

 

 

The image of an eastern european thug coming to wealthier countries to exploit the "system" is outdated. There are rotten apples in every society, and sure, eastern european countries have more poverty; Why wouldn't they come to the UK for a better living?

 

 

 

As long as they pay taxes and don't break laws, I see no reason why the BNP is against them so much. They can't even play the nazi race-card because eastern europeans are genetically and appearance wise almost identic with germans.

 

 

 

Seems like blind xenophobia to me...

[Bubsa]

As for Eastern Europeans, give me one source which suggests all they do is come over here and scrounge off our benefits. I'll confess, a few do, but the vast majority of them are hard working, contributing members of our economy, who also so happen to back taxes which then get repumped into those public services. In reality, they're actually paying for their own welfare.

 

Agreeing with you here. I know quite a few Polish people now. All are hard working decent people, unlike a few Scottish people I know.

 

More often than not, the exact people accussing the immigrants of doing such said scrounging are the people who appear on Jeremy Kyle being exposed for doing the exact thing.

[GrimHams]

It really wouldn't be much of a stretch when you break down the details would it? It's no coincidence that your posting about immigration, while being a supporter of a racist party (although now they try to hide it because of legal reasons) and lets not pretend that it isn't.

 

 

 

Go on then, break down the details to prove that the BNP is the same as the Nazi party.

 

 

 

I'm not under any illusions as to the reasons behind this post - spreading your rubbish about etho-nationalism and your xenophobia to others to legitimise your horrible little views to yourself and others and anyone who understands what the BNP are truly about should be able to see that. So lets cut the crap about being shielded from government predictions.

 

 

 

If this was carried out by the BNP then you might have a reason to tell me that the BNP is evil and trying to destroy the minds of good people like yourself, the fact is this has nothing to do with the BNP and is simply what the government statistic blokes have to say. Its become disgustingly commonplace to literally ignore anyone or brand them bigots if they even comment on immigration. I said in my post that i didnt make this thread to discuss the BNP but you seem to think with your "horrible little view" that because the government are producing statistics that prove the BNP has a point in this debate it automatically makes it racist.

 

 

 

Read the BNP's ACTUAL view on immigration then come back to me, probably best in pm because you seem to have your "bnp is racist" blinkers on and will probably ignore any discussion. You made it perfectly clear that you don't care what the BNP's real stance is on anything because you've made up your opinion already judged on the mass media's bias representation.

 

 

 

Quite frankly you and your party's views disgust me. I'd much rather a nation full of immigrants and foreigners rather than a nation of people like yourself.

 

 

 

So you'd rather Britain dissapear into an Islamic republic than have people who want to preserve British culture. Ok.

 

 

 

Respond in PM if you'd like to take this further, i don't like to blot the view of any forum with a discussion with someone who will probably refuse to see anything from the other persons view, but theres always sense in trying. :) (Also i'm sure you had an utter spaz at me before for making a joke about scotland in footballing terms, it'll be nice to reacquaint).

[darkmage099]

It really wouldn't be much of a stretch when you break down the details would it? It's no coincidence that your posting about immigration, while being a supporter of a racist party (although now they try to hide it because of legal reasons) and lets not pretend that it isn't.

 

 

 

Go on then, break down the details to prove that the BNP is the same as the Nazi party.

 

 

 

I'm not under any illusions as to the reasons behind this post - spreading your rubbish about etho-nationalism and your xenophobia to others to legitimise your horrible little views to yourself and others and anyone who understands what the BNP are truly about should be able to see that. So lets cut the crap about being shielded from government predictions.

 

 

 

If this was carried out by the BNP then you might have a reason to tell me that the BNP is evil and trying to destroy the minds of good people like yourself, the fact is this has nothing to do with the BNP and is simply what the government statistic blokes have to say. Its become disgustingly commonplace to literally ignore anyone or brand them bigots if they even comment on immigration. I said in my post that i didnt make this thread to discuss the BNP but you seem to think with your "horrible little view" that because the government are producing statistics that prove the BNP has a point in this debate it automatically makes it racist.

 

 

 

Read the BNP's ACTUAL view on immigration then come back to me, probably best in pm because you seem to have your "bnp is racist" blinkers on and will probably ignore any discussion. You made it perfectly clear that you don't care what the BNP's real stance is on anything because you've made up your opinion already judged on the mass media's bias representation.

 

 

 

Quite frankly you and your party's views disgust me. I'd much rather a nation full of immigrants and foreigners rather than a nation of people like yourself.

 

 

 

So you'd rather Britain dissapear into an Islamic republic than have people who want to preserve British culture. Ok.

 

 

 

Respond in PM if you'd like to take this further, i don't like to blot the view of any forum with a discussion with someone who will probably refuse to see anything from the other persons view, but theres always sense in trying. :) (Also i'm sure you had an utter spaz at me before for making a joke about scotland in footballing terms, it'll be nice to reacquaint).

 

 

 

Do the MAJORITY of Islamic immigrants really want Sharia law? Seriously? Source please...

[BlueLancer]

 

So you'd rather Britain dissapear into an Islamic republic than have people who want to preserve British culture. Ok.

 

 

 

Gotta love freudian slips... You say you or the BNP aren't racist officially, but the above sentence pretty much gives insight to what the average BNP voters probably discuss in their spare time about politics and the exclusion of "ragheads" from british society.

 

 

 

I'm not british, but I'm relieved to know the party doesn't have widespread support, just as the neo-nazi parties in other european countries disguising as "patriotic parties".

[1_man_army]

 

you seem to have your "bnp is racist" blinkers on and will probably ignore any discussion.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, me and my blinkers thats the issue here.

 

 

 

I never said that anyone who cares about immigration is a bigot I said you were and I stand by that. I pointed out the political reasoning behind why as a BNP supporter you made a post regarding immigration.

 

 

 

Look I've made my point and my stance is clear. You've made numerous points that show hypocracy and ignorance. Now I could go on and on, take some time and then prove my point but even then you'll try to wriggle out of it and argue that black was white (no pun intended) just so you could think that you've got the best of the argument. Instead I'm going to sit down watch some TV then start my design assignment while reading tip.it and relaxing.