bubbyjoe2 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Just had an idea, why not use a supertanker? Yes, it'd be difficult to get hold of, but it can hold an insane amount of supplies, and due to the massive size of the deck, solar/wind power could be obtained from on top of the deck. Water fliteration systems to make seawater drinkable? I would think that if the space were used correctly, it could support a good 50-100 people for about a year? think about it, a customised supertanker that is basically a floating village. Good idea? 1. Scrap any solar panels, use as close to 100% wind energy as possible. Solar panels require too much space to be useful, and they'd be difficult to get a hold of. 2. Build a greenhouse on deck, and grow your own food. If you can grow plants, you may even be able to bring livestock. 3. While preparing the supertanker, try to get some fishing boats as well. they'd be useful for fishing for food or as scout ships, even as lifeboats if necessary. 4. Big battleship cannons = NO. Trying to bombard zombies with those guns would be massive overkill. You'd need to sacrifice valuable space on the supertanker for them, as well as cargo space to be used to hold shells. And as for bandits, bandits would usually travel in small, fast ships, where using big naval guns would be overkill as well. You're better off using handheld firearms, that way you can disable the raiders without destroying the ship, which could be used for spare parts/scouting/fishing/a lifeboat, as well as keeping the ship's potential cargo intact. With all that, you could survive on a supertanker almost indefinitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ember3579 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Just had an idea, why not use a supertanker? Yes, it'd be difficult to get hold of, but it can hold an insane amount of supplies, and due to the massive size of the deck, solar/wind power could be obtained from on top of the deck. Water fliteration systems to make seawater drinkable? I would think that if the space were used correctly, it could support a good 50-100 people for about a year? think about it, a customised supertanker that is basically a floating village. Good idea? 1. Scrap any solar panels, use as close to 100% wind energy as possible. Solar panels require too much space to be useful, and they'd be difficult to get a hold of. 2. Build a greenhouse on deck, and grow your own food. If you can grow plants, you may even be able to bring livestock. 3. While preparing the supertanker, try to get some fishing boats as well. they'd be useful for fishing for food or as scout ships, even as lifeboats if necessary. 4. Big battleship cannons = NO. Trying to bombard zombies with those guns would be massive overkill. You'd need to sacrifice valuable space on the supertanker for them, as well as cargo space to be used to hold shells. And as for bandits, bandits would usually travel in small, fast ships, where using big naval guns would be overkill as well. You're better off using handheld firearms, that way you can disable the raiders without destroying the ship, which could be used for spare parts/scouting/fishing/a lifeboat, as well as keeping the ship's potential cargo intact. With all that, you could survive on a supertanker almost indefinitely. 1) Solar Panels are alright if placed on parts of the ship that wouldn't be used by anything else. Free energy's free energy, and solar panels generally don't generate drag, which would slow down your ship. A few wind turbines would be useful if placed properly, though. Just the omnidirectional ones. 2) That's mandatory when it comes to surviving for long periods of time, no matter where it's at. Livestock might be difficult, though. Fishing SHOULD be able to handle the majority of your needs in meat. If not, then be sure to plan your trips so you can go on hunting expeditions. 3) Big ships like that should always have a bunch of small ones in tow when it comes to situations like this. It's just common sense. 4) What if you have an other big ship loaded with pirates who want your blood? You're not going to survive heavy combat very well with just some handheld firearms. Similar problem arises where land/island raider fortifications are concerned. They're not there for show, they're there for emergency. You never know which rabbit hole you jump into will lead to Wonderland. - Ember3579Aku Soku Zan. - ShinsengumiYou wanna mess with me or my friends? Pick your poison.If you have any complaints about me, please refer to this link. Your problems are important to me.Don't talk smack if you're not willing to say it to the person's face. On the same line, if you're not willing to back up your opinions no matter what, your opinion may as well be nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbyjoe2 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 1) Solar Panels are alright if placed on parts of the ship that wouldn't be used by anything else. Free energy's free energy, and solar panels generally don't generate drag, which would slow down your ship. A few wind turbines would be useful if placed properly, though. Just the omnidirectional ones. 2) That's mandatory when it comes to surviving for long periods of time, no matter where it's at. Livestock might be difficult, though. Fishing SHOULD be able to handle the majority of your needs in meat. If not, then be sure to plan your trips so you can go on hunting expeditions. 3) Big ships like that should always have a bunch of small ones in tow when it comes to situations like this. It's just common sense. 4) What if you have an other big ship loaded with pirates who want your blood? You're not going to survive heavy combat very well with just some handheld firearms. Similar problem arises where land/island raider fortifications are concerned. They're not there for show, they're there for emergency. 1. Nearly any area of the ship usable for solar panels would be a better spot for a greenhouse. Also, It doesn't matter if you're "slowed down" since your supertanker won't be able to escape from anything anyway. 2. I agree with most of that. as I said before, if you are successful enough with growing food, you can stay on the ship as long as you need to. But, if fishing will provide most of the meat, a hunting trip on land is too risky. Members of your group might get lost, killed, infected, etc. 3. Agree. 4. Possibly one of the "smaller ships in tow" could be a submarine, so if one of your scout ships spots a vessel with pirates, and it's not worth a fight to get their ship and cargo, you could torpedo the enemy ship before it can reach your flagship. 5. Just wanted to mention, if your supertanker is exceptionally large, you could fit a light helicopter on it. The helicopter would be very versatile, and could be used for rescue missions, recon, combat, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin64 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 http://www.cracked.com/blog/whats-your- ... trategies/ Look at the last one, "Uh..What Was the First Part Again?" Also, allow me to highlight this: Fire is a good way to kill a virus, since even the pseudoliving cannot deny the destructive powers of heat to proteins which make up their outer coat. Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtoGuy Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 So what do we do in the event someone shows any sign of infection, but still complete control over their bodies while were on the ship? I like stir fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenga Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 So what do we do in the event someone shows any sign of infection, but still complete control over their bodies while were on the ship? There are three actions we can take: 1. Kill them 2. Throw them overboard 3. Both I say number 3 Ponies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manafi Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I'd go with number 3 then do an emergency health check on all people on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 So what do we do in the event someone shows any sign of infection, but still complete control over their bodies while were on the ship? There are three actions we can take: 1. Kill them 2. Throw them overboard 3. Both I say number 3 Kill them, incinerate the body, put ashes in a wieghted airtight container, throw container overboard. You can never be too careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 So what do we do in the event someone shows any sign of infection, but still complete control over their bodies while were on the ship? There are three actions we can take: 1. Kill them 2. Throw them overboard 3. Both I say number 3 Kill them, incinerate the body, put ashes in a wieghted airtight container, throw container overboard. You can never be too careful. That would be a waste of a container and fuel, I say we throw the bodies off the bow (front of the boat.) there is a high chance that the boat will push the bodies under water, and when they reach the propellers they will get sliced up. Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlzPuddngPlz Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 [hide=]quote="Mage_Man0103"]So what do we do in the event someone shows any sign of infection, but still complete control over their bodies while were on the ship? There are three actions we can take: 1. Kill them 2. Throw them overboard 3. Both I say number 3[/hide] Kill them, incinerate the body, put ashes in a wieghted airtight container, throw container overboard. You can never be too careful. That would be a waste of a container and fuel, I say we throw the bodies off the bow (front of the boat.) there is a high chance that the boat will push the bodies under water, and when they reach the propellers they will get sliced up. Wouldn't it be a better use of said fuel if we just floated in one place, only moving (consuming fuel) in event of an emergency? Anyways, I'm for #3. Sig by me, in MS paint, but I'm still working on it. Suggestions appreciated This guide is as concise as a gourmet's handbook with the guidelines of "Pick up fork, stab food, insert into your mouth, then chew". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 [hide=]So what do we do in the event someone shows any sign of infection, but still complete control over their bodies while were on the ship? There are three actions we can take: 1. Kill them 2. Throw them overboard 3. Both I say number 3 Kill them, incinerate the body, put ashes in a wieghted airtight container, throw container overboard. You can never be too careful. That would be a waste of a container and fuel, I say we throw the bodies off the bow (front of the boat.) there is a high chance that the boat will push the bodies under water, and when they reach the propellers they will get sliced up.[/hide] Wouldn't it be a better use of said fuel if we just floated in one place, only moving (consuming fuel) in event of an emergency? Anyways, I'm for #3. The problem is with currents the ship will drift, so we will need to keep moving the ship lest we end up in shallow water and get beached. :ohnoes: Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Kill them? Really? Heres a whacky idea; If we think they're infected, but not sure, (They're walking around and talking, but they may have been infected and waiting to re-animate), we tie them up and lock them in a bloody room? That way, if they turn into a zombie we can kill them right away, properly dispose of them, and if they're not infected we don't waste a perfectly good TZDF member? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 [hide=]So what do we do in the event someone shows any sign of infection, but still complete control over their bodies while were on the ship? There are three actions we can take: 1. Kill them 2. Throw them overboard 3. Both I say number 3 Kill them, incinerate the body, put ashes in a wieghted airtight container, throw container overboard. You can never be too careful. That would be a waste of a container and fuel, I say we throw the bodies off the bow (front of the boat.) there is a high chance that the boat will push the bodies under water, and when they reach the propellers they will get sliced up.[/hide] Wouldn't it be a better use of said fuel if we just floated in one place, only moving (consuming fuel) in event of an emergency? Anyways, I'm for #3. The problem is with currents the ship will drift, so we will need to keep moving the ship lest we end up in shallow water and get beached. :ohnoes: Which truly wouldn't matter, because no matter how many zombies there are they aren't climbing 20 feet up the smooth side of a ship. Raiders. Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoonson Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Anyone else noticed the similarity between the swine flu and the WWZ virus? so i herd u liek devarts?If you look at me and feel offended by my 666-ism,think.I could be just as offended by your "cross".[hide=This's why I'm hot]The Eleventh Commandment:Thou Shalst only say "Amen,brother".Amen, brother :lol:Amen, brudda (referring to the 10th commandment)amen Bruder! (german ftw)I'm invulnerable to everything, except Lenin and Dragoonson.That's impossible. I love people.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 [hide=][quoe=protoguy777]So what do we do in the event someone shows any sign of infection, but still complete control over their bodies while were on the ship? There are three actions we can take: 1. Kill them 2. Throw them overboard 3. Both I say number 3 Kill them, incinerate the body, put ashes in a wieghted airtight container, throw container overboard. You can never be too careful. That would be a waste of a container and fuel, I say we throw the bodies off the bow (front of the boat.) there is a high chance that the boat will push the bodies under water, and when they reach the propellers they will get sliced up.[/hide] Wouldn't it be a better use of said fuel if we just floated in one place, only moving (consuming fuel) in event of an emergency? Anyways, I'm for #3. The problem is with currents the ship will drift, so we will need to keep moving the ship lest we end up in shallow water and get beached. :ohnoes: Which truly wouldn't matter, because no matter how many zombies there are they aren't climbing 20 feet up the smooth side of a ship. Raiders. Being human and having physical limits aren't going to help you, to say the least. If they have by some fluke they have some rope (which wouldn't be too much of a fluke, I imagine rope would be common) I say we pull a medievil move and dump boiling water of them. Anyone else noticed the similarity between the swine flu and the WWZ virus? Yup *Grabs rifle* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoonson Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I have a week to adapt my plan to the virus being airborne. so i herd u liek devarts?If you look at me and feel offended by my 666-ism,think.I could be just as offended by your "cross".[hide=This's why I'm hot]The Eleventh Commandment:Thou Shalst only say "Amen,brother".Amen, brother :lol:Amen, brudda (referring to the 10th commandment)amen Bruder! (german ftw)I'm invulnerable to everything, except Lenin and Dragoonson.That's impossible. I love people.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Anyone else noticed the similarity between the swine flu and the WWZ virus? Isn't swine flu airborne though? EDIT: Didn't see your post :wall: :shock: I think I need to replace my underwear now Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoonson Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Damn,wearing an N95 inhaling protection mask doesn't suit my breathability when it comes to taking aim.Luckily I can be up to a thousand yards away without cocking up,so I don't have to be in CQB =D. Good luck CQB. so i herd u liek devarts?If you look at me and feel offended by my 666-ism,think.I could be just as offended by your "cross".[hide=This's why I'm hot]The Eleventh Commandment:Thou Shalst only say "Amen,brother".Amen, brother :lol:Amen, brudda (referring to the 10th commandment)amen Bruder! (german ftw)I'm invulnerable to everything, except Lenin and Dragoonson.That's impossible. I love people.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 maybe I should invest in a gas mask, also, D Does anyone know if is possible to obtain pure adrenaline? It would need tobe regulated though, due to side effects of too much Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 maybe I should invest in a gas mask, also, D Does anyone know if is possible to obtain pure adrenaline? It would need tobe regulated though, due to side effects of too much I dont think using adrenaline injections would be a good idea, you want to be calm when fighting zombies not be in berserker mode. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Kill them? Really? Heres a whacky idea; If we think they're infected, but not sure, (They're walking around and talking, but they may have been infected and waiting to re-animate), we tie them up and lock them in a bloody room? That way, if they turn into a zombie we can kill them right away, properly dispose of them, and if they're not infected we don't waste a perfectly good TZDF member? I was thinking that. Like honestly, signs of early infection is a fever, and if I remember right, nausea. There are 25000 other things that could cause that. If they're infected, at a certain point they'll go into a coma, and 23 hours after infected, their heart will stop. How's this. If they're heart stops, we bash their head in (not wasting a bullet), and chuck them off the side of the boat. That's taking no chances. As for the swine flu. I already had it, I'm pretty sure. I was in contact with someone who went to mexico, I got flu, which turned into pneumonia. And had pretty much all the symptoms of it. This was before it hit the news, so my doctor didn't culture it. So if that's what I had, I'm immune to that strain now. If it mutates into zombie virus, I would still be immune to parts of it, which may give me full immunity. That would make my life a lot easier. But anyway, if it's airborne, you would only need to worry about it before they transformed. zombies aren't going to be sneezing on you. But, gas masks or ventilators would be 100% required at all times when we weren't in a closed environment that was safe. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Adrenaline is used to increase oxygen intake gy dialating blood vessels, it also gives us incresed strength and I believe improved reaction times, it is also used when someone goes into anaphylactic shock or cardiac arrest Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Adrenaline is used to increase oxygen intake gy dialating blood vessels, it also gives us incresed strength and I believe improved reaction times, it is also used when someone goes into anaphylactic shock or cardiac arrest perhaps there is some medical application, my main concern is that I dont think anything beyond normal levels is a good idea mid combat Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I have a few health issues that cause me to go into anaphylactic shock (bee allergy, is them main one) but I should be fine, I've done 6 years of immunotherapy for it. Epipens give adrenaline, for about 15 minutes, those might be an option Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Redhead Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I don't know about you guys, but if I'm firing a gun, I like to keep calm. If your shooting, adrenaline would not be the best of options. Your aim wouldn't be as steady, as your heart is racing 50 miles a minute. You may have better reflexes, but in that case, grab a machete. Gained first quest cape on 3/22/09! Gained 99 fishing 5/22/09!I forgot when I got 99 cooking!Proud member of Jovial Rovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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