brave Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Looking at the lastest BTS and the introduction of the Bounty Hunter mini-game and Clan Wars has got me thinking. Are Jagex covertly bringing in things that will eventually replace trading and the Wilderness? Lets look at the evidence : 1) Jagex are battling with RWT 2) The GE is introduced bringing a controlled (and easily controllable) trading mechanism into the game 3) Bounty Hunter - Jagex are introducing a mini-game that is, in effect Pking, and probably looks as if it will enable Jagex to control what people can lose. 4) Clan Wars - Jagex are introducing a method where clans can have battles in a relatively "safe" area. Again some control on what people can lose is possible. Now when (note I say when and not if) these updates have settled in I can see two things happening : 1) The GE will become the preferred method of trading for the majoritory of players and 2) Bounty Hunter and Clan Wars will become the preferred methods of PvP conflicts for the majoritory of players. When each of these things occur I can see Jagex asessing the impact, on their players, of ending direct player to player trading and the Wilderness as we know it. When they assess that the impact will be minimal (or something they can absorb) then we can say goodbye to these things. What do you think - am I being a "doom merchant" or is there something in this "conspiracy theory"? Please - no flaming - I just want people to think about this and make constructive comments - not just "you are a ***** this will never happen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunasako Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Though its certainly a possibility, personally it won't affect me. It'll be bad for people who've been members or just players for so long to accept these changes and some won't, but players like me who will be trying out membership for the first time, or just starting RS, will just accept that this is the way to go and not mind it. I hate to be part of the blindly devout group but sadly this time I am. :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboo2 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Inevitable, but already vastly discussed since the duelling arena update. Yeah...Some people just go out of their way to ruin other peoples fun.Sounds like Jagex to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybrid2hell Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Assuming both bounty hunter and the clan wars arena are p2p, then i do not see the end of pking. Also, its not as though clans will only choose to war people, they will probably want to do regular pking at drags and such.. I engineered this thread with precise variables that I know would cause lul-worthy flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordkrohn1626 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Looking at the lastest BTS and the introduction of the Bounty Hunter mini-game and Clan Wars has got me thinking. Are Jagex covertly bringing in things that will eventually replace trading and the Wilderness? Lets look at the evidence : 1) Jagex are battling with RWT 2) The GE is introduced bringing a controlled (and easily controllable) trading mechanism into the game 3) Bounty Hunter - Jagex are introducing a mini-game that is, in effect Pking, and probably looks as if it will enable Jagex to control what people can lose. 4) Clan Wars - Jagex are introducing a method where clans can have battles in a relatively "safe" area. Again some control on what people can lose is possible. Now when (note I say when and not if) these updates have settled in I can see two things happening : 1) The GE will become the preferred method of trading for the majoritory of players and 2) Bounty Hunter and Clan Wars will become the preferred methods of PvP conflicts for the majoritory of players. When each of these things occur I can see Jagex asessing the impact, on their players, of ending direct player to player trading and the Wilderness as we know it. When they assess that the impact will be minimal (or something they can absorb) then we can say goodbye to these things. What do you think - am I being a "doom merchant" or is there something in this "conspiracy theory"? Please - no flaming - I just want people to think about this and make constructive comments - not just "you are a ***** this will never happen" doom merchant :anxious: you may be onto something :) What a waste of game space the wildy is anyway, ESPECIALLY when they put those clan war and bounty hunter things in place.....tumbleweeds anyone?...I was on a full world today slaying, and didnt bother to hop to a lesser populated world to do the two clues I did today (junk)...and saw one person during the 7 different times I had to go dig in the wild, he hopped when he saw me coming........*waves goodbye to wildy* hehe RS name: lord krohn Combat 138slayer specific: 103 whips, 38 dark bows and 250+ dragon boots dropped to date.Dragon drops: 5 Half shields, 21 drag legs, 8 dragon skirts, and 9 drag meds dropped to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Considering that PKing as it is right now is an unmitigated disaster, an end to it "as we know it" would probably be a good thing. Was discussing this on the RSOF.. I think the most likely change is to how drops work and/or the rewards for a kill. And long overdue, IMO. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_klutz Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 3) Bounty Hunter - Jagex are introducing a mini-game that is, in effect Pking, and probably looks as if it will enable Jagex to control what people can lose. If you have ever played "bounty hunter" as Jagex calls it in real life you will know that it is nowhere close to pking. This game is going to be stupid because you will have friends who refuse to kill each other so the other friend will win. This game will also depend on how many stupid people even understand how to play because if you have a dumb person trying to kill you, its not going to be hard to stay alive even if you stink. Pking is a 1v1 battle with no rules. This is not going to replace pking. If you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature. ^^^At least I'm not the only crazy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznmidget448 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 If they want to get rid of pking, Bounty Hunter will have to go F2p :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacrosse_fan Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 If they want to get rid of pking, Bounty Hunter will have to go F2p :P+1 :pray: Treasure trail items: 9Dragon drops: 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordkrohn1626 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 3) Bounty Hunter - Jagex are introducing a mini-game that is, in effect Pking, and probably looks as if it will enable Jagex to control what people can lose. If you have ever played "bounty hunter" as Jagex calls it in real life you will know that it is nowhere close to pking. This game is going to be stupid because you will have friends who refuse to kill each other so the other friend will win. This game will also depend on how many stupid people even understand how to play because if you have a dumb person trying to kill you, its not going to be hard to stay alive even if you stink. Pking is a 1v1 battle with no rules. This is not going to replace pking. good point...how much pking really goes on? Is it just me, because I have seen a drastic drop of white dots in the wildy while I do clues....to see one is a rarity...to see more then one even more so...of course I dont go in the "pk worlds", but my point is there seems to have been a drop over time in it anyway. RS name: lord krohn Combat 138slayer specific: 103 whips, 38 dark bows and 250+ dragon boots dropped to date.Dragon drops: 5 Half shields, 21 drag legs, 8 dragon skirts, and 9 drag meds dropped to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenga Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 even since october I have been thinking this and I haven't been afraid to voice that. I think Jagex is trying to ruin rs to market new games. Ponies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 RuneScape Is Commiting Career Sucide. I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 even since october I have been thinking this and I haven't been afraid to voice that. I think Jagex is trying to ruin rs to market new games. This makes absolutely no sense. You don't ruin a billion-dollar product to promote something that's not even out yet. This just isn't done. Period. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild_goat_14 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 even since october I have been thinking this and I haven't been afraid to voice that. I think Jagex is trying to ruin rs to market new games. Yeah! This guy is right! If Jagex ruins their current game, they will not only lose tons and tons of money, but they will also lose most of thier gaming audience! And everyone who doesn't already play RS hates Jagex, and more importantly, if they bomb their game probably only like 10% will give a damn for their next one! Its the ultimate plan for success![/sarcasm] Please, grow a brain and don't just regurgitate what the RSOF is spitting out. OT: If PKing is dead, maybe I can Abyss RC without losing my pouches! :o PS>I hope your theory is wrong though. PKing has been the center of Runescape since the beginning for a whole lot of people. It just wouldn't be Runescape without it. I shall take my flock underneath my own wing, and kick them right the [bleep] out of the tree. If they were meant to fly, they won't break their necks on the concrete.So, what is 1.111... equal to?10/9. Please don't continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brave Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 3) Bounty Hunter - Jagex are introducing a mini-game that is, in effect Pking, and probably looks as if it will enable Jagex to control what people can lose. If you have ever played "bounty hunter" as Jagex calls it in real life you will know that it is nowhere close to pking. This game is going to be stupid because you will have friends who refuse to kill each other so the other friend will win. This game will also depend on how many stupid people even understand how to play because if you have a dumb person trying to kill you, its not going to be hard to stay alive even if you stink. Pking is a 1v1 battle with no rules. This is not going to replace pking. How can you play "bounty hunter" IRL :wall: Also, how do you know what the mini-game will be like - I don't. I'm not speculating on what the mini-game might be like. Rather what Jagex may intend it to be. If they want to get rid of pking, Bounty Hunter will have to go F2p :P What if they do :-w . I can just see all the F2Pers saying "woot another F2P upgrade" until they realise....... :-w even since october I have been thinking this and I haven't been afraid to voice that. I think Jagex is trying to ruin rs to market new games. This makes absolutely no sense. You don't ruin a billion-dollar product to promote something that's not even out yet. This just isn't done. Period. I agree PS>I hope your theory is wrong though. PKing has been the center of Runescape since the beginning for a whole lot of people. It just wouldn't be Runescape without it. I agree RS2 would not be the same without the Wilderness, in the same way veteren RSC players said RS would not be the same without PvP everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epeeflecher Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 If they want to get rid of pking, Bounty Hunter will have to go F2p :P Well i mean, the average cost of a f2per dying in the wildy isnt that much as the average cost of a p2per with whips while f2pers use Rune. So maybe it wont. I dunno :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy_Maggot Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I havent really done much pk but anyway even if there will be a change or the "end" something good has to come in return since jagex isnt the one with the "power" to manipulate. Since without players there is no runescape. So i mean ending of trading and pk would make this game suck pretty much, no? So whos gona play it then? And in the end jagex will have to make a change. But then again ppl are able to adapt to anything or at least the newbies, like the first comment said. I dont really know a [cabbage] about whats happening but i was just thinking in general... @ Sammy The Maggot @ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwreeTak Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 You might be correct in this one. I don't know much about PvP, so I won't comment more than this on your idea: Probalby a lot of clans will use the clan wars arena, so there will Jagex probalby get some control over the loss of items. But I still don't think that Wildy will become empty. It will still be loads of clans and pkers out there...So you still have to watch out as you enter the Wilderness! About the GE, this is what I think about it after have been using it a few times and watching the economy for a while since it got released: The GE is a popular merchanting help. There are many people using it, and the most of them loves that they can merchant and train at the same time. This has (I believe anyway) made the GE more popular than normal merchanting. But there will still be people who will merchant using the old way. They will still be people standing in Varrock's and Falador's banks saying "Selling Coals 170 each" or "Buying rune plates 70k". Sure, the GE will change the prices of some items. But it won't control the whole of the RS economy. Add me if you so wish: SwreeTak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irool Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 If they want to get rid of pking, Bounty Hunter will have to go F2p :P +1 most of you don't even know how much better f2p pking in RSC was. Being in the wilderness was so much more dangerous. pking is now awful in comparison Even if f2p doesn't get it, it could be just as awful as what they give f2p now. we shall see 100 Combat91 Strength70 Defense82 Attack85 Magic =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcedKake Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Getting rid of wildy is stupid imo, specially since I got a whip kill with my clan yesterday :D but new minigames sound cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldJoe Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Didn't pking die when RS2 came out? J'adore aussi le sexe et les snuff moviesJe trouve que ce sont des purs moments de vieJe ne me reconnais plus dans les gensJe suis juste un cas désespérantEt comme personne ne viendra me réclamerJe terminerai comme un objet retrouvé Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Slayer15 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Basically, none of these will result in replacing the wilderness. The wilderness is not only 1 vs 1, hence the reason for multi-combat areas. Clans may in fact war in this clan area, depending on how it is designed and whether or not it is f2p or p2p. There will be some determining factors as to whether mainstream clans will actually use this area for wars. Clans do more than just war. Most clans even prefer pk-run ins as a form of battle, which cannot be emulated through a Clan War area, as returning wouldn't be an option. This would clearly still leave the wilderness as active as it is now. As for the bounty hunter mini game, well it will most likely be a safe mini game, so in essence a lot of people would still want to kill other players for pixels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Yes. Jagex will destroy all. I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Peoples, peoples. PKing in the Wilderness certainly will NOT die. Why? Because Free Players have no access to minigames or new monsters. They will simply continue to use the Wilderness as always. If they replace the Wilderness completely, then what will Free Players do if they wish to PK? Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FooK-A-Ji Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Didn't pking die when RS2 came out? You and me know that, the Rs2 generation don't :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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