The James Bond thread

[Harakiri]

I have not noticed any threads for 007 so I have to create one, as a geek, and as a huge fan. I have watched these movies all my life and notice a lot of changes between movies, and actors.

 

 

 

James Bond has always been cool. Changing to fit the needs of fans, as well as the time period, I have always loved the way James Bond changes from actor to actor, each actor bringing their own form.

 

 

 

Sean Connery was the tough one. He was also in some of the best of the 21 Bond films. I loved Goldfinger, mainly due to its really awesome bad guy. A fat guy who likes gold? Cool! And he has lasers? And he has a henchman with the most deadly hat ever? COOL! As an old movie, it really has certain appeal even to kids and teenagers. From Russia With Love is another of my favorites with Connery. It was probably the only one that was made up wholly of spy and espionage moments. No parts that were cheesy and one of my favorite action scenes in the whole series (the one with red grant on the train).

 

 

 

Then came little George Lazenby. Not good at all. On Her Majesty's Secret Service has to be put at the bottom of my list of top bond movies. It was very boring, with nothing happening for long periods of time. And the love affair with Tracy was fairly stupid. You are a spy, who has many enemies, and you expect the enemies not to kill your wife, or take her hostage in an attempt to kill you? Plus, Bond reading Playboy is not cool. Why read playboy when you can seduce the woman sitting next to you by having a short conversation.

 

 

 

Roger Moore. My favorite Bond for a number of reasons.

 

 

 

1. He was funny, except for a lot of corny one liners...

 

2. His movies always had cool plots and really evil bad guys.

 

3. He was the actor who got to play Bond while Jaws was around.

 

 

 

Jaws is my favorite bad guy. Going from serious, to completely corny in Moonraker was a bad move though. That freaky geek girl had to be like twenty years younger than him.

 

 

 

With Roger Moore, came a dependance on gadgets, which made Bond look like a person who could not stand up for himself. The gadgets were cool, but just did not make the action scenes have as much of an impact on me as Connery's.

 

 

 

Timothy Dalton introduced serious Bond again. The female leads though, were really annoying...

 

 

 

Pierce Brosnan is not as great of a Bond to me. He was WAY to dependant on gadgets. The stunts in his movies were cool, but dependance on gadgets and getting captured by Koreans, not cool.

 

 

 

Craig. The amazing actor who ended up in the best bond film in decades. No gadgets. Just weapons. He was hardcore and a completely brutal Bond that really stands out from the rest. And the story of the movie was really good, even leaving off parts for a second part, a first in Bond films.

 

 

 

 

 

The books are good fun as well, some of the best spy and espionage books ever.

 

 

 

Please look how much the set of all 14 costs:

 

 

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/014091 ... m_cr_error

 

 

 

I bought the set for 15 bucks...apparently a good deal. (I did get them at Costco though...) I would suggest the books highly, but apparently they are fairly pricey...More than I thought...

 

 

 

New books continuing the adventures of Bond come out, none of them as good as Fleming's original.

 

 

 

Please rate Bond movies, portrayals of Bond and Bond girls, and start discussions, I will be on every once in a while, and if you start a discussion I am sure I can put some input in...

 

 

 

No flames...people are entitled to their opinion. And fans of Bond will always differ on some key parts...

 

 

 

So like I said, discuss and lets see what everyone thinks the best Bond movie is and see how my fellow tipiters feel about the movies.

[____]

In order of best portrayals of Bond:

 

 

 

Sean Connery

 

Timothy Dalton

 

Pierce Brosnan

 

Daniel Craig

 

Roger Moore

 

George Lazenby

 

 

 

 

 

I'll come back to this with my reasoning behind each, I just have stuff to do right now :P

[Bloodredsword]

Sean Connery is hands down the best.

 

 

 

And he's still an awesome actor.

[Retefael]

I'm a huge fan of James Bond. I own Vol. 1 & 3 of the Ultimate Collection, hope to soon own Vol. 2 & 4 :)

 

 

 

 

 

Sean Connery was the most Bond-esque I think, based on the novels written by Fleming and Bond's portrayal in them. Pierce Brosnan was like Roger Moore, only better looking and more action-oriented. Roger Moore's only draw, I think, was his corny one-liners and great chase scenes (see boat chase in Live and Let Die and The Man With the Golden Gun) and his movies had J.W. Pepper, even though he was only in two :( (see two above movies)

 

 

 

Timothy Dalton? Eh...meh. Not great. George Lazenby was great in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, though. Great scenes, and few, if any, gadgets. A true Bond film with a true Bond type character!

 

 

 

Favorite 5 Bond films (in no particular order):

 

GoldenEye

 

Goldfinger

 

Live and Let Die

 

On Her Majesty's Secret Service

 

From Russia With Love

[assassin_696]

I haven't read any of the books, so I don't have anything to compare them to. That said, I still stand by Casino Royale being the best bond film i've ever seen. Bond's raw, brutal and heartbroken. You don't see him like that in any of the others. Sure he can be cold, but he also bleeds, and looks like he suffers.

 

 

 

To be honest though, I think they're all great films, and they're all different. Connery and Moore are the classics for me, i've got a lot of those on tape, but Pierce Brosnan was the first one I watched a lot when I was young.

[Retefael]

I haven't read any of the books, so I don't have anything to compare them to. That said, I still stand by Casino Royale being the best bond film i've ever seen. Bond's raw, brutal and heartbroken. You don't see him like that in any of the others. Sure he can be cold, but he also bleeds, and looks like he suffers.

 

 

 

To be honest though, I think they're all great films, and they're all different. Connery and Moore are the classics for me, i've got a lot of those on tape, but Pierce Brosnan was the first one I watched a lot when I was young.

 

 

 

Bond cries in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. We don't see his face though. He's tough like that. :?

 

 

 

But yeah, I hope Bond 22 was as good as Casino Royale :)

[Harrington]

I've never read any of the book either, but I love the movies.

 

 

 

My order of preference for actors;

 

Pierce Brosnan - just thought he was so cool and cavilier

 

Daniel Craig - very intense and believable

 

Sean Connery - a fellow Scot ;)

 

Roger Moore - just too cheesy

 

Timothy Dalton - also cheesy, and his movies were the worst

 

George Lazenby - poor guy... not sure it even counts as a bond movie

 

 

 

My fave bond movies;

 

Moonraker

 

Casino Royale (the new version)

 

Tomorrow Never Dies

 

Goldeneye

[Retefael]

Anyone play Nightfire?

 

 

 

:thumbsup: A+ of a game.

[BlueLancer]

Rofl, Johnny Rivers - Secret Agent Man playing on my winamp, and I first see this thread on Music, Movies & Television :lol:

 

 

 

I've watched just about every Bond movie (and can't recount how many fun nights I had as a bit younger playing the Goldeneye 007 on N64 with friends)

 

 

 

The last Casino Royale movie brought me back to the series after I just about gave up after the lame "Die another day"... It's easily the best Bond movie ever, can't wait for B22 to be released next year. :)

 

 

 

[Retefael]

Rofl, Johnny Rivers - Secret Agent Man playing on my winamp, and I first see this thread on Music, Movies & Television :lol:

 

 

 

I've watched just about every Bond movie (and can't recount how many fun nights I had as a bit younger playing the Goldeneye 007 on N64 with friends)

 

 

 

The last Casino Royale movie brought me back to the series after I just about gave up after the lame "Die another day"... It's easily the best Bond movie ever, can't wait for B22 to be released next year. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thought it was coming out this November...?

[BlueLancer]

 

Thought it was coming out this November...?

 

 

 

Looked it up, yep it's coming this year... Even more awesome :) Thanks for clarifying

 

 

 

(Note to self: Blow up WGA headquarters if they postpone this too :( )

[Bloodredsword]

I haven't read any of the books, so I don't have anything to compare them to. That said, I still stand by Casino Royale being the best bond film i've ever seen. Bond's raw, brutal and heartbroken. You don't see him like that in any of the others. Sure he can be cold, but he also bleeds, and looks like he suffers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ah yes, the torture scene.

 

 

 

*shudders*

 

 

 

I'll never be the same :wall:

[Harakiri]

Oh yes...the torture scene...that was just so cool how he can endure so much pain to the nads...and still not cry and laugh about it...and still be able to do it? :shock:

[Satenza]

I like Bond somewhat, the new film however I did not really enjoy. Mainly because it promised to change the way the films were done but in the end it did not. In the majority of the films the first few scenes start well and then it decends into a guy jumping up a crane and all that. I was fairly excited when it started, it looked grim and brutal and even unattractive which is what should have changed the franchise. I always see the way forward is to neglect all the hollywood imputs. Bring it back to what it should be which it British, give it the 'Get Carter' feel. The actor who can portray that is Clive Owen.

[eggzs]

how can he have survived that torture scene and still retained his "mojo"? :shock:

[Retefael]

how can he have survived that torture scene and still retained his "mojo"? :shock:

 

 

 

Ever heard of balls of steel? :wink:

[Faux]

Pierce Brosnan is my favourite Bond even though Casino Royale blows all of Brosnan's movies out of the water.

 

 

 

I grew up watching Brosnan and to me, Bond is supposed to be suave and smooth and uses gadgets to kick [wagon]. Craig feels like he's the British version of Jason Bourne.

[____]

Roger Moore - just too cheesy

 

Timothy Dalton - also cheesy, and his movies were the worst

 

George Lazenby - poor guy... not sure it even counts as a bond movie

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, Lazenby drew the short straw and I can do nothing but feel sorry for him with his role. Dalton - worst movies? Not even close. Most of Moore's movies fall under Dalton's in terms of "bad" - if anything Dalton managed to revive Bond to what Connery setup after Moore destroyed it.

 

 

 

It's a bit 'iffy' with Living Daylights (it's a bit on-off) but License to Kill is a shadow of what Brosnan brings to the screen straight after :-?

[Harakiri]

No...I like Roger Moore more because he was the Bond I grew up watching and though he is cheesy, he must be pretty good if he staked out more movies than any of the other actors. (Only Moore one I hate is A VIEW TO A KILL...could you have picked an uglier Bond Girl (Does she even constitute as a Bond Girl?))

 

 

 

Timothy Dalton was a good actor who as I say a lot in the case of Bond Movies, landed in the wrong movies. He was a great actor, who just ended up with the bad script. Connery had a good script most of the time. Moore had a good script except for the cheesy punchlines after a death. Brosnan was in a good movie, that became way to technical. And the later Bond films seem to have Bond depending all too much on gadgets.

 

 

 

Lazenby was in what I consider, A what the hell situation. You cannot find a good actor for this Bond film so what do you do? Hire an unexperienced actor? Sure why not. And since he cannot act worth a damn, lets give him the most boring script we can think of.

 

 

 

Craig is an amazing actor who I believe will be the savior of Bond. Bond was becoming continually less and less popular as the years grew on with pierce as Bond. But when Casino Royale came out, more fans showed up, and new fans also came.

[BlueLancer]

how can he have survived that torture scene and still retained his "mojo"? :shock:

 

 

 

As shown a few scenes later... He's "recovering", and if I remember correctly, is unable to even walk, thus being in a wheelchair for a while before paying a visit to Mr. White in his brand new mansion :lol:

 

 

 

Craig feels like he's the British version of Jason Bourne.

 

 

 

Wow. That's pretty accurate now that I think of it. He's definitely more of a Bourne than the gadget using, tux wearing classic bonds... He's more into stuff like psychologically evaluating his enemies/trying to take their advantage away (such as laughing while being tortured to

make Le Chiffre angry and think his methods are inefficient)