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The first thing I did in GTA5 today was kill a hooker. It was like christening a ship for it's maiden voyage. I teared up a little. 


There was a huge debate on the radio yesterday about that (specifically in GTA4) and how that kind of thing is corrupting the youth of today, with only minor mention of how it's rated M and should only be sold to adults an absolutely no mention of violence in movies (like Saw) or TV (like Criminal Minds).

I saw it as just one more example of how people raised in the 60's are horribly out of touch with today's society.

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There was a huge debate on the radio yesterday about that (specifically in GTA4) and how that kind of thing is corrupting the youth of today, with only minor mention of how it's rated M and should only be sold to adults an absolutely no mention of violence in movies (like Saw) or TV (like Criminal Minds).

If a game had half the violence of Criminal Minds, it'd probably get slapped with an AO rating as soon as it was announced.

 

They do have a tiny sliver of a point behind all of the fearmongering, though. There's a bit of a difference between watching someone act out violence and being the one to act out violence. Even then, I'm not sure how much violence and 'corruption' has actually been caused by that kind of thing. By the time you can play the game, you know better.

 

Alternatively, if you're surprised that there are crimes in a franchise called "Grand Theft Auto"...

 

If you need me, I'm going to keep taking the 'good' route in games, in the hope that a similar effect makes me a hero in real life.



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They do have a tiny sliver of a point behind all of the fearmongering, though. There's a bit of a difference between watching someone act out violence and being the one to act out violence. Even then, I'm not sure how much violence and 'corruption' has actually been caused by that kind of thing. By the time you can play the game, you know better.

You may have a tiny sliver of a point, but there's a bit of a difference between pushing buttons to cause a game character to act out violence and being the one to act out violence.

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They do have a tiny sliver of a point behind all of the fearmongering, though. There's a bit of a difference between watching someone act out violence and being the one to act out violence. Even then, I'm not sure how much violence and 'corruption' has actually been caused by that kind of thing. By the time you can play the game, you know better.

You may have a tiny sliver of a point, but there's a bit of a difference between pushing buttons to cause a game character to act out violence and being the one to act out violence.

Which is part of the point I was trying to make, with the rest being about how the mediums are different. It's like comparing a book (imagination) to a movie. :razz:



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The problem with the video game violence debate is that the people who are still having it, aren't reading any of the research.


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I can see a point to it for certain age groups, since the ability to distinguish between reality and fantasy is not an ability people are born with, it develops later in life. That could be a legitimate problem in some cases I think. On the other hand, I know that past that point, there is also research which suggest that perhaps it acts as a pressure relief, that because humans are inherently lazy (not wasting energy is a crucial step in your species continued existence), reality escapes can satisfy the urges of people who would otherwise have to deal with their desires by breaking the law.

 

It does seem to roll both ways though. An example in the other direction is that it's been shown that, for males, playing a racing game and then getting in a real car makes you an objectively worse driver, who is now sort of driving like they are still in a racing game. 

 

It's not a clear cut issue.

 

GTA 5 was enough to make me go back and check exactly what the M rating meant (I was apparently thinking Teen). I'm actually still surprised that a game that glorifies weed (and it totally does) managed to score only an M.


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all to be said about today...IoS7!! downloading as I type

Hasn't IOS 15 been out for a while now?

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all to be said about today...IoS7!! downloading as I type

Hasn't IOS 15 been out for a while now?

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Oh, carry on.

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Why pick a mac for exactly the same hardware you'd get for half the price with the competition if you're going to use Linux on it?

 

 

Because, here at least, the cost difference isn't much for similar hardware. You also get a nicer build quality and support, in the retail market at least.

 

 

The first thing I did in GTA5 today was kill a hooker. It was like christening a ship for it's maiden voyage. I teared up a little. 


There was a huge debate on the radio yesterday about that (specifically in GTA4) and how that kind of thing is corrupting the youth of today, with only minor mention of how it's rated M and should only be sold to adults an absolutely no mention of violence in movies (like Saw) or TV (like Criminal Minds).

I saw it as just one more example of how people raised in the 60's are horribly out of touch with today's society.

 

 

The real problem is that the only person not responsible for the violent actions your kid does seems to be your kid. Oh, and you, because there is no way you could ever be bad at parenting. If it's not your kid, it's entirely their fault.

 

Both of which are not always correct, when it's been found in at least one case a brain tumour caused a man to become a paedophile. Who knows what else has been committed by someone influenced by tumours and other growths in the brain.


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Today's not bad at all. (Still debating GTA5 as I've never played a gta game for more than 30 hours total)
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Personally have never been able to really enjoy GTA games, they (like other similar games like Farcry, Skyrim, etc.) are just too large for me to enjoy by myself. If they were to become MMO's I'd love them to be honest.

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I don't have much of an opinion on the computer debate.  With my luck everything seems to break anyways :P

 

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I don't really know if I'd say GTA5 glorifies weed, but maybe you're farther along then I am, but the the only real drug moment is when Michael is have some crazy hallucination where you have to kill aliens. Otherwise in my opinion, weed has been casually referenced similar to other mediums. 


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Isn't the whole thing meant to be a satire of the American criminal underworld? If it glorifies weed in that context, it would be sardonic, surely.

Only a moron would suggest GTA:V is like "Smoke weed e'eryday".

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was gta ever satire? it mostly plays all its cliches pretty straight, its just funny/absurd while it does it.
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Isn't the whole thing meant to be a satire of the American criminal underworld? If it glorifies weed in that context, it would be sardonic, surely.

Only a moron would suggest GTA:V is like "Smoke weed e'eryday".

420 blaze it

 

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The best being when I accidentally put a cat through my alienware.

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My favourite new thing to do in GTA is run around with a hammer smashing bus stops and parked cars and pretending it's '92.







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