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The Wii did successful because it luckily attracted the market of adults who used it for fitness and more physical-activity-oriented gaming. Imo, Nintendo didn't realize this was why the console sold so well, so they decided to make almost the exact same console with a few changes. Little did they know that the audience who bought all the Wiis weren't looking for a brand new console. Nintendo thought their Wii was selling to gamers, when it really wasn't.


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I saw a game theory video on why the Wii U wasn't so successful. He compared it the virtual boy and all his points were spot on.

 

 

 

The Wii did successful because it luckily attracted the market of adults who used it for fitness and more physical-activity-oriented gaming. Imo, Nintendo didn't realize this was why the console sold so well, so they decided to make almost the exact same console with a few changes. Little did they know that the audience who bought all the Wiis weren't looking for a brand new console. Nintendo thought their Wii was selling to gamers, when it really wasn't.

That also makes a lot of sense as well. Most adults who would use the Wii for physical oriented games wouldn't need a new console. If it isn't broke why fix it?


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The Wii did successful because it luckily attracted the market of adults who used it for fitness and more physical-activity-oriented gaming. Imo, Nintendo didn't realize this was why the console sold so well, so they decided to make almost the exact same console with a few changes. Little did they know that the audience who bought all the Wiis weren't looking for a brand new console. Nintendo thought their Wii was selling to gamers, when it really wasn't.

Doesn't help that due to Nintendo's poor advertising, many parents thought the Wii U was just the gamepad and that it was just an accessory for the Wii.

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I played the Wii U a few months back at a bar. It was fun, until we had to use the new controller. I hated it. It completely discounted you from the gaming/social experience. I personally think Nintendo should stop producing consoles, and just become a 3rd party game developer. 


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skyrim + pokemon

 

nintendo you can have this company-reviving billion dollar IP for $1 million


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skyrim + pokemon

 

nintendo you can have this company-reviving billion dollar IP for $1 million

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Worst idea in the world and it's awful that people keep suggesting it.


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Worst idea in the world and it's awful that people keep suggesting it.

...Is ZeldaRim still an option, though?



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skyrim + pokemon
 
nintendo you can have this company-reviving billion dollar IP for $1 million

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Worst idea in the world and it's awful that people keep suggesting it.


Yay for saying that something is "the worst idea in the world" without actually saying *why* they think it's a bad idea! \:D/

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skyrim + pokemon

 

nintendo you can have this company-reviving billion dollar IP for $1 million

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Worst idea in the world and it's awful that people keep suggesting it.

 

forgot the old /sarcasm tag


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skyrim + pokemon
 
nintendo you can have this company-reviving billion dollar IP for $1 million


 
Worst idea in the world and it's awful that people keep suggesting it.

 


Yay for saying that something is "the worst idea in the world" without actually saying *why* they think it's a bad idea! \:D/

 

Because they want to completely scrap something that's had nearly 20 years of constant improvement and tweaking and turn it into a drastically different game with a Pokemon skin. When you get bored of Call of Duty you don't say, "Man, I wish this were more like Phoenix Wright", you go play Phoenix Wright or other similar games. Turning a competitive turn-based RPG into an open world MMO or quest adventure doesn't work unless you completely rework the entire series from the ground up.

 

Not to mention that Pokemon is a game designed to be simple enough to be played by people of all ages. Can you imagine what an MMO made by Nintendo, who still uses friend codes instead of actual online accounts, would look like? It'd be the tamest game in the world with little to no complexity and be entirely populated by children. Are you aware that Cartoon Network made a MOBA? Saying it's dumbed down from DOTA 2, LoL, and HoN is an understatement. That's what we can expect if Pokemon ever became like Skyrim.

 

And of course rocco was joking so now I look silly for taking Pokemon so seriously.


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There's nothing wrong with spin-offs, you know.
Making an open-world Skyrim-style Pokémon game doesn't mean they would have to completely end the current style main series.

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There's nothing wrong with spin-offs, you know.
Making an open-world Skyrim-style Pokémon game doesn't mean they would have to completely end the current style main series.

The amount of resources and effort it would take to make a quality Pokemon game similar to Skyrim would be too much to just make it a spinoff. If Game Freak is still going to work on the main series then that means it'll have to be thrown onto a 3rd party, and how many of those are able to produce games on the scale of Skyrim, add Pokemon to it, and make it good? Notice how every other Pokemon spinoff is either an already established kind of game with a Pokemon skin (Mystery Dungeon, Trozei, Puzzle League), or was really bad (Hey You! Pikachu, Pokemon Channel).


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The amount of resources and effort it would take to make a quality Pokemon game similar to Skyrim would be too much to just make it a spinoff. If Game Freak is still going to work on the main series then that means it'll have to be thrown onto a 3rd party, and how many of those are able to produce games on the scale of Skyrim, add Pokemon to it, and make it good? Notice how every other Pokemon spinoff is either an already established kind of game with a Pokemon skin (Mystery Dungeon, Trozei, Puzzle League), or was really bad (Hey You! Pikachu, Pokemon Channel).


An open-world Skyrim-style Pokémon game would be an already established kind of game with a Pokémon skin. Not sure what's your point there.
Do note that when we say "Skyrim-style", we don't mean taking Skyrim and making that Pokémon. We mean an open-world game in general.

By the way, "If Game Freak is still going to work on the main series then that means it'll have to be thrown onto a 3rd party, and how many of those are able to produce games on the scale of Skyrim, add Pokemon to it, and make it good?" <-- Doesn't mean the concept itself is rotten to the core. Just because you don't know if there are third-parties who would be able to do it doesn't mean it would be impossible and that it would be a terrible game.


I'm not quite sure how you managed to skip Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD when listing spin-offs, but w/e.

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Nintendo is doing an FPS you know. Called Splatoon. I am actually rather interested in this, brings lots of innovation to the table and seems fun.

 

Wii U has lots of great games. I actually prefer the Wii U controller to any other controller of the previous gen (PS3, X360), maybe more than those of any other current, since I haven't tried them. The gamepad is unbelievably comfortable actually.


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I would be happy with a Skyrim mod that replaces all creatures/monsters with pokemon characters. 


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The amount of resources and effort it would take to make a quality Pokemon game similar to Skyrim would be too much to just make it a spinoff. If Game Freak is still going to work on the main series then that means it'll have to be thrown onto a 3rd party, and how many of those are able to produce games on the scale of Skyrim, add Pokemon to it, and make it good? Notice how every other Pokemon spinoff is either an already established kind of game with a Pokemon skin (Mystery Dungeon, Trozei, Puzzle League), or was really bad (Hey You! Pikachu, Pokemon Channel).


An open-world Skyrim-style Pokémon game would be an already established kind of game with a Pokémon skin. Not sure what's your point there.
Do note that when we say "Skyrim-style", we don't mean taking Skyrim and making that Pokémon. We mean an open-world game in general.

By the way, "If Game Freak is still going to work on the main series then that means it'll have to be thrown onto a 3rd party, and how many of those are able to produce games on the scale of Skyrim, add Pokemon to it, and make it good?" <-- Doesn't mean the concept itself is rotten to the core. Just because you don't know if there are third-parties who would be able to do it doesn't mean it would be impossible and that it would be a terrible game.


I'm not quite sure how you managed to skip Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD when listing spin-offs, but w/e.

 

I should have specified "simple" games when talking about established games with Pokemon skins. Things like Chess or pinball where you can apply literally any franchise or series and have not much be different.

 

"You can't be certain it'll be terrible" is a bad argument because you also can't be certain that it'll be good. At least in my case I've said why I believe they won't be good. I left out Colosseum and XD because they're essentially the same as the main games except with a 3D overworld.


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If we're talking unconventional pokemon games, a SSB style fighter with only pokemon would be awesome.



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So i just went outside to have a cigarette. Wind is so strong. Can't even see across the street cause of all the dust. I was outside for 5 minutes and i have a 20cm layer of sand on me. To top it all off the wind blew my can of pepsi right out of my hand. And it was the last one too!



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^Super intense Noxx...might want to wait on the cig while that's going on lol.

 

Just woke up and I'm trying to get awake. Did some stretching and ran a couple laps around the house. Right now I am drinking some tea I made this morning and getting ready to shower after I drink my tea. I have became a tea enthusiast as of late. Went to www.teavana.com and started trying different types of lose leaf teas. I try to have at least 2 cups a day but I push to have 3 a day. I have noticed I have lost some weight (around 10 pounds) because I am not drinking soda anymore. Every time I crave a soda I drink two cups of water or tea. 


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