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Seems pretty dumb to pretend that the wage gap isn't important because women take more time off of work & don't work in higher paying fields. Like...that's the whole problem. Women and men shouldn't be taking different amount of time off, and women should have equal representation in every field

That's more of an issue that the husband and wife have to decide on. Businesses can't force their male employees to take the day off when their child is sick because "your wife did it last time". There's also the issue of pregnancy. Men just can't get pregnant so it makes sense that they're working constantly throughout the pregnancy and after the birth.


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Seems pretty dumb to pretend that the wage gap isn't important because women take more time off of work & don't work in higher paying fields. Like...that's the whole problem. Women and men shouldn't be taking different amount of time off, and women should have equal representation in every field

 

The problem people present is that women are making less because of discrimination.

This is demonstrably not true. 

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Given that its not a result of discrimination but the choice of millions of individuals deciding that it is the best decision for their work/life balance then using it to promote some agenda is bullshit.

 

 

Why do you want men and women to have equal representation in every field?

 

My guess is you believe that in the nature vs nurture argument for why we behave the way we do you lean heavily on the nurture side. What if your wrong. What if biological differences do affect our behavior in subtle but key ways? 

 

 

And to my original point. You don't know these answers any more than these professors do. Its just this ideology is trendy right now. I'm happy to argue this on forums among equals but to be preached this in a classroom leaves me fuming. Hopefully I expressed this well enough even if you disagree with my stances on these issues.

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It's outright dangerous to assume that nature is the cause of certain behaviors, and that's without getting into the fact that the argument only ever swings one way, often transparently so.

 

If nurture is a belief, it's one that's got a hell of a lot less baggage associated with it - the other has got the same arguments that have been used for centuries to justify all manner of atrocities and they're as unfounded now as they were then. The nature argument, in a lot of cases, falls apart if you so much as look at the details, and in cases where it doesn't it's still a massive leap to get to the sorts of things it has been used to justify :v

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Seems pretty dumb to pretend that the wage gap isn't important because women take more time off of work & don't work in higher paying fields. Like...that's the whole problem. Women and men shouldn't be taking different amount of time off, and women should have equal representation in every field

 

The problem people present is that women are making less because of discrimination.

This is demonstrably not true. 

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Given that its not a result of discrimination but the choice of millions of individuals deciding that it is the best decision for their work/life balance then using it to promote some agenda is bullshit.

 

 

Why do you want men and women to have equal representation in every field?

 

My guess is you believe that in the nature vs nurture argument for why we behave the way we do you lean heavily on the nurture side. What if your wrong. What if biological differences do affect our behavior in subtle but key ways? 

 

 

And to my original point. You don't know these answers any more than these professors do. Its just this ideology is trendy right now. I'm happy to argue this on forums among equals but to be preached this in a classroom leaves me fuming. Hopefully I expressed this well enough even if you disagree with my stances on these issues.

 

If you want to know why women are underrepresented in the industry, ask any of the women in your classes. From the way you talk about women, I bet the answer will surprise you. Hint: it's not because they're subtly worse at engineering than men are.

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When it comes to complex issues like this it's often a mixture of both nature and nurture. It's silly to deny that men and women are, from a young age, conditioned to conform to their gender roles. But it's also silly to deny that men and women simply view life through different lenses due to their differing genetic makeup and therefore will often make different decisions when faced with similar problems


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If you want to know why women are underrepresented in the industry, ask any of the women in your classes. From the way you talk about women, I bet the answer will surprise you. Hint: it's not because they're subtly worse at engineering than men are.

 

 

I'm currently dating a girl whos halfway done with her masters degree in CS. Who is a better engineer than I am.

 

I think what seperates her from most girls is she is interested in the subject whereas most girls are very interested in "helping people" which leads to degrees such as nursing and psychology being very popular.

 

At least from my university most of the women getting CS majors are on average better than the average guys there. I've actually asked some of them what got them interested in CS and most of them said video games was the original spark for them probably true for a lot of the guys.

 

 

It's outright dangerous to assume that nature is the cause of certain behaviors, and that's without getting into the fact that the argument only ever swings one way, often transparently so.

 

If nurture is a belief, it's one that's got a hell of a lot less baggage associated with it - the other has got the same arguments that have been used for centuries to justify all manner of atrocities and they're as unfounded now as they were then. The nature argument, in a lot of cases, falls apart if you so much as look at the details, and in cases where it doesn't it's still a massive leap to get to the sorts of things it has been used to justify :v

 
Your right, the reason were on the nurture bandwagon is because of how awful things are if nature is the culprit.  If our behavior was all nature then horrible things like eugenics can be justified. 
 
The reality is that swinging from one direction to the other is the wrong decision. That the truth is that we are a mix between nature and nurture.
 
 
Maybe you act cold and distant because your father was that way with you, and his father was with him. Or maybe they carried a gene to express emotions that they passed along. Both stories are compelling and probably neither are true.

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Damn idc what anyone says, Uncrustables are good


 

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Idk how but they taste a million times better than a normal pb&j

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Probably all the high fructose corn syrup


 

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I don't like Uncrustables. Too expensive for something so simple to make.


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I promise to close the wage gap if it exists in exchange for paternal work leave. You know that shit's less than 2 weeks unpaid leave? How come only my baby momma can spend time with our kid?


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@RPG I think in Canda either parent can take the maternity/paternity leave but only one for the 9 months or whatever is allowed by the gov't.

 

@uncrustables conversation, is it weird that I don't like peanut butter?

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Peanut butter is hugely overrated


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Peanut butter is rated correctly. Nutella is overrated. Honey is underrated. I don't know why more people don't use honey.

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Are honey allergies a thing? Because if so that would be my answer. It does not like me too much. Otherwise yes honey everywhere

 

Peanut Butter is a thing that makes life worth living though

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Are honey allergies a thing? Because if so that would be my answer. It does not like me too much. Otherwise yes honey everywhere

 

Peanut Butter is a thing that makes life worth living though

You're probably allergic to the pollen that the bees are using. Try getting honey from a different region.

 

I've heard that a little bit of honey every day will help alleviate your allergy symptoms though.

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Honey is an allergic 5hing but it's super good


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Peanut butter is rated correctly. Nutella is overrated. Honey is underrated. I don't know why more people don't use honey.

This is the only completely true thing I've ever read on the Internet.

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Interesting read. I'll have to go over it a bit more thoroughly when I can focus a bit better. There's too much background noise for anything number-heavy :v

On the other hand, the economic literature also provides some evidence pointing towards nurture rather than nature being at the root of gender differences in competitiveness. Gneezy et al. (2008) investigate the impact of culture by conducting the same experiment, in which participants can choose between piece rate and tournament compensation for throwing balls into a basket, both with subjects stemming from a fiercely patriarchal society (the Maasai of Tanzania) and subjects from a matrilin- eal society (the Khasi of India). While the Maasai exhibit the same gender gap in competitiveness found in Western societies, the roles are reversed in the Khasi sessions. Letting teenage subjects from all-girls, all-boys, and co-educational schools choose between piece-rate and tournament compen sation for solving mazes, Booth and Nolen (2009a) find that girls attending single-sex schools are significantly more likely to choose the tournament.

This generally seems like an underinvestigated aspect of things, at any rate, and it's also probably something that could confound the experiment itself. Going to have to remember to look for this one next time I have a sizable block of time. Even with the study's findings I'm not sure if that justifies the extent of sexism that tends to come up in these sorts of arguments at all, especially since those details still tend to be used to override the way people actually behave, or overrule actual rational decisions. That's more of what I'm arguing against than averages: the idea that individuals are not allowed to exist beyond their stereotypes :v

 

I'll admit I'm a bit leery about how we've gone from "the wage gap is overstated" to "if there was a significant wage gap - which there isn't - it would be because of these factors". also kind of funny since risk-taking is generally not associated with rational decision-making, is it? or at least it's something I find amusing

 

Testosterone increases risk-taking behaviors however I don't think I've heard anything about T increasing rationality or anything. Risk exists on a spectrum-- I know many people who avoid taking any risks in their lives because they worry so much. I also know many people who recklessly take too many risks and end up with lots of trouble and drama in their lives. The key is to find a middle ground and take calculated risks. That's what top business professionals usually do.


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Changed my desktop to one with i7.

It did not have HDMI output -_-

Have to buy a DVI-D to HDMI adapter today -_-


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So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends.

 

RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.

Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.

Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.

I strike out every other week.

Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.

Randox pretty much stays rational.

Etc, etc

 

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Today I slept like 4 hours... which isn't great because I'm sleep deprived since I've been sleeping around that much for the past few days. I played a few ARAM games in League of Legends, won most of them, and played some OGame.


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Saga of Prets building a computer:

Turns out 2 SATA ports on the mobo were dead. I messed around nearly two hours, thinking my HDD was doomed. Cut open all the cable ties, tried different power cables, nearly everything before trying a different SATA port on mobo...


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So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends.

 

RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.

Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.

Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.

I strike out every other week.

Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.

Randox pretty much stays rational.

Etc, etc

 

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The first computer I built, the CPU and motherboard were DOA.

 

That was terribly unlucky.


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In my case my motherboard had 4 SATA ports and I got one of them to work. Really need to build a new computer though, the case is too small for the parts I've added since I got it.

 

 

This was the original computer, http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03359045. which was a decent mid-tier computer back in 2011 between upgrading the power supply and the graphics card that case is tiny. I'd love to have been able to upgrade the CPU but I really don't wanna buy some shitty AMD processor thats compatible with that old motherboard. This computer already makes my room 5 degrees hotter :lol:

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