Today...

[RpgGamer]

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[DragonGayeance]

Who agiles the Agiles?

 

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[Goonstalf]

who tickles the pickle of the pickle ticklers

[Tesset]

Yeah, the alt right has a whole pipeline around white nerds online.

 

 

It surprises me, sometimes, that we never had an out and out nazi on this board. The most radical right wing belief it feels like we had was muggi's PUA nonsense, which, as far as things go, is pretty good.

[Goonstalf]

*heils hitler nervously*

[Veiva]

 

my 27 year old toaster can play nxt

 

I'll stick to the Java client until they delete it. Btw, I'm over a decade older than your toaster.

 

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wow r u bragging ur older than my toaster

[muggiwhplar]

It surprises me, sometimes, that we never had an out and out nazi on this board. The most radical right wing belief it feels like we had was muggi's PUA nonsense, which, as far as things go, is pretty good.

 

As someone who's never followed politics and has never voted, I have no clue how you came to associate my perspective on dating with radical right wing beliefs.

[muggiwhplar]

Muggi's PUA wasn't toxic. His attitude is if your unsatisfied with your sex life, go and work on being more conventionally attractive by working on things in your control. Such as lifting weights and having social hobbies. Or if your interesting a particular type of person, move cities if your home town doesn't have that. 

 

His attitude was radical individual responsibility. Which if someone has learned helplessness is incredibly useful.

 

I would gladly give the same advice to anyone who isn't happy with their sex life or relationships

 

Pretty much. Though the people who need that advice the most are, paradoxically, on their own to figure that out because if I try to teach it to them, it's essentially victim blaming... as evidenced by me trying to "help" people like Tesset, Alg, and Horatio with the things they were complaining about over the years. Kudos to Veiva for always giving me the benefit of the doubt.

 

I will concede that groups such as PUAs have a very fluid and subjective ideology which is dictated by the individual. I don't really identify as a "PUA" (and I'm not sure if I ever really did to begin with, even if my mentors did). More like, I evolved into what PUAs would call a "natural" through years of self-reflection, self-improvement, and socialization. Dating coaches like Blackdragon influenced me a lot in my early 20s, but I essentially found myself to be happier and more successful by carving my own path and gradually "unlearning" a lot of his philosophy since it's at odds with my values and my personality. For example, Blackdragon has abnormally low empathy for others and I have abnormally high empathy for others (even if my posts don't reflect that since you usually only see the side of me that's ruthlessly debating something online). Now that I'm older and more experienced, I view a lot of his advice as leading women on and being deceptive. He might not be as misogynistic as some of the dating gurus out there, but if misogyny has a spectrum, I think he's definitely on it.

 

As it stands now, I still go on anywhere from 1-5 dates per week, and end up having sex with about 1 in 3 of women I meet. But it's important to note that unlike Blackdragon (as well as most PUAs and men in general), I'm entirely upfront and honest about my intentions with them on the first date. I tell them that I don't want to lead them on and that I'm not looking for any kind of commitment; I just want to meet cool girls and have fun. Unsurprisingly, every woman lights up when I tell them that-- even if we don't end up having sex because we're on different wavelengths. I think they're used to meeting guys who are either indecisive about what they're looking for, or they know what they're looking for but they don't have the balls to be upfront and honest about it. Blackdragon led me to believe that being upfront and honest like that doesn't work; he's wrong. I think he's just really bad at communicating... which ties into having low empathy and emotional intelligence, as well as a dose of toxic masculinity which makes him averse to talking about his feelings and trying to put himself in others' shoes.

[DragonGayeance]

 

wow r u bragging ur older than my toaster

 

 

 

Yes, I think it is important to clarify my age range. (Btw, that was a joke response. Obviously you were insinuating low-end comps could play nxt, thus the toaster comment. However, the way it was written could be interpreted as a toaster sitting at a comp, playing nxt. NVM, I'm not gonna explain jokes all day L)  ANYWAY, Suomi would lie about his age on Twitter & whenever I would ask him why he was telling ppl he was younger than he was, he'd be like, "Oops, typo." He was born in the 1980's.

 

And I'm just now getting around to watching the vid Tesset posted, mostly because I feel drained atm & I may go play Fire Emblem after a while. Tbh, I'm just trying to keep myself busy so I don't get severely depressed.

 

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[Goonstalf]

im married so its kinda like my life is 1 really loong date

[Tesset]

 

 

It surprises me, sometimes, that we never had an out and out nazi on this board. The most radical right wing belief it feels like we had was muggi's PUA nonsense, which, as far as things go, is pretty good.

As someone who's never followed politics and has never voted, I have no clue how you came to associate my perspective on dating with radical right wing beliefs.

Not yours in particular, I suppose, but all the PUA figure heads I knew about turned into regressive political youtubers, so.

 

And, I guess, in further fairness to you, that list might be a singleton containing Roosh V, but in fairness to me, a lot of PUA stuff is supremely sexist.

 

In any case, it's not really a fair comparison, and I'm sorry

[muggiwhplar]

 

 

It surprises me, sometimes, that we never had an out and out nazi on this board. The most radical right wing belief it feels like we had was muggi's PUA nonsense, which, as far as things go, is pretty good.

As someone who's never followed politics and has never voted, I have no clue how you came to associate my perspective on dating with radical right wing beliefs.

Not yours in particular, I suppose, but all the PUA figure heads I knew about turned into regressive political youtubers, so.

 

And, I guess, in further fairness to you, that list might be a singleton containing Roosh V, but in fairness to me, a lot of PUA stuff is supremely sexist.

 

Ultimately I guess I'm just saying it could have been a lot worse on the forum.

 

These days I don't really associate myself with any kind of PUA/Manosphere/Red Pill stuff. When I was younger, I gave those communities the benefit of the doubt because I felt that their hearts were in the right place by encouraging men to become better versions of themselves. But now that I'm content with my level of success, I've had enough experiences to disprove a lot of their dogma and I no longer find it helpful to entertain their ideas. Not to mention a lot of their ideas are unfalsifiable and/or have been debunked as pseudoscience.

 

In other words: they're right about many things (e.g. take responsibility for your life, go to the gym and develop healthy habits, etc.), but the things they're right about can be found elsewhere surrounded by less toxic ideologies; and the things that are unique to those communities are too misogynistic and pseudoscientific for my taste (e.g. the idea of alpha males and beta males; the idea that all women think/feel the same way about certain things).

 

That being said, I apologize if I've said things to you in the past that came across as insensitive or hostile. That was not my intention and I hope we can let bygones be bygones.

 

I think I'm done editing this post now :P

[RpgGamer]

Dear Noxx, if you're reading this - please come home. We miss you.

 

Also I hope you're not in jail

 

Love,

 

Rpg

[DragonGayeance]

Yeah, the alt right has a whole pipeline around white nerds online.

 

 

It surprises me, sometimes, that we never had an out and out nazi on this board. The most radical right wing belief it feels like we had was muggi's PUA nonsense, which, as far as things go, is pretty good.

 

Btw, I thought this was an excellent vid.

 

But I do know how the exceptions could find an initial commonality with the "free speech" argument that would suck them in.

 

Suppose a woman got forum banned by a gay man. Maybe she would think, "Uh, I thought he'd be on my side, but why is he denying me free speech? Wait....is it because gay men hate women? Must be why they're gay. Gays must hate me. WTF. Well, THEN I HATE THEM." And so on & so forth.

 

Trust me, I felt like that for a hot minute with a certain ex-jmod with some goofy looking hair.

 

FORTUNATELY, my family is into some uh, really LGBTQ+ tv shows & movies O.O, which is why representation in media is important.

 

I'll say it for the 857596 time: RHPS is my favorite film ever. When Rupaul's Drag Race started airing, that was basically my family's show lol - my mom, my son, & I would watch it together. My son is into Steven Universe and Homestuck (He kinda got me into Homestuck as well). But my mom wasn't gay, I'm not gay, and my son isn't gay. My family is just into gay culture when it comes to entertainment. Idk, maybe that is bizarre to some ppl.

 

But the other day, my son was talking about some yt vid he saw & described the guy in it as misogynist (which the guy was). I think for some guys, to call another guy a misogynist would be a de-masculinized thing to do, but it isn't. Just call it like it is.  

 

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[DragonGayeance]

Back in middle school, I watched some documentary on drag queens. It was an older documentary, like maybe 1970's/early '80s - I wish I could remember the name of it. In the documentary, it showed the drag queens "getting ready" i.e. doing their makeup, ect. I remember this one drag queen talking about head bands & that wearing a head band would pull up the face & accentuate the eyes, thus making the face prettier. I wore head bands to school for the rest of the year & told my friends about how head bands make your face look better, so they started wearing head bands, too rofl. I basically got my middle school fashion tips from drag queens.

 

I just have a hang up on drag queens. When I was 13, I asked my mom if I could have a sex change & become a drag queen and my mom was like, "Uh, no." I also asked my mom, when I was 13, if I could have a sex change, become a gay man, & marry TIM CURRY. 

 

Uh, where was I going with this? Oh, yeah...

 

Back in the '80s & '90s there wasn't a great deal of positive portrayal of drag in the media, besides in documentaries of actual drag performers. I remember watching that Wigstock documentary years ago & thinking, "OMFG, that is cool." Recently (like maybe a few months or so), I watched like, a sequel documentary for it, where they had Wigstock again. 

 

Idk, sometimes it sucks that I'm a woman because I can't be a drag queen. >.> Drag queens, to me, are exaggerations of women. As a woman, I feel like I'm an exaggeration. Yeah, I'm into dance, which is considered a feminine STEREOTYPE, but I also rode around on a freaking skateboard & got called "butch" back in the day, as well. When I feel like I have to portray myself as "girly" so dudes will stfu, I feel like I am exaggerating.  

 

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EDIT: Uh, yeah. And Madea loooooooooool.

[DragonGayeance]

oil 

 

Speaking of oil...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U10p3Tn9V5Y

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

 

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[Goonstalf]

lol who is that guy?

[DragonGayeance]

lol who is that guy?

 

What guy?

 

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[Ember]

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[Goonstalf]

from video

[DragonGayeance]

There's a gay culture?

 

Yes.

 

#RemoveSilverhawkBootsFromRS #RSOF

[DragonGayeance]

from video

 

Donald Trump, who I did not vote for and will never vote for.

 

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[Ember]

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[DragonGayeance]

Wow, cool. I was raised by straight parents and never really exposed to it, so it's a little weird to think there's a whole culture out there that is ostensibly mine, but to which I feel no connection.

 

Maybe you were born in the wrong generation L.

 

https://www.history.com/news/gay-culture-roaring-twenties-prohibition

 

But there has always been gay culture, as there has historically been a culture with any group. If someone has been isolated from a group, it doesn't mean that group does not exist.

 

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[Goonstalf]

as a mole person i would like ot say that mole culture is the most best of all the cultures and is very deep