gremmy Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Yes, so I was wondering how high summoning I could get with app. 90M? Edit: From 68. Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1TR0 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Id say high 90s even though i dont summon :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beloved Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 thats more than enough for 99 summon as you get 70% of your shards back (which in effect means 1 shard = 3.34 shards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berrakus Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 There are 3 costs associated with Summoning: Gathering the Charms - This can range from making money (like Slayer) to costing a ton (like Bursting Rock Lobsters). Just depends on how fast and easy you want your Charms. Shards - Shards really add up, especially at the higher levels. And waiting 2 levels to Swap Pouches for Shards can mean having to buy a lot more Shards to keep training. Seconds - Prices vary greatly here. Some you can gather for free, some you have to buy (such as Bagged Plants). Everybody takes their own path in Summoning. Decide what path you want to take and then you can start working out the costs. Dragon Drops - 10 Meds, 9 Legs, 5 Skirts, 2 Left HalfPM me to have any potions made or crafting done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin1357 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 thats more than enough for 99 summon as you get 70% of your shards back (which in effect means 1 shard = 3.34 shards) If he doesn't burst to get charms it will most likely be enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 [hide=Estimate cost to 99 Summoning!]Number of charms required (Assuming using only Crimsons) (Parenthesis is shards per pouch.) Honeybadgers - 535 (84) Bloated leeches - 1,466 (117) Stranger plants - 2,448 (128) Granite lobster - 6,642 (166) Swamp titans - 8,746 (150) Wolpertinger - 5,569 (203) Pack yak -2,187 (198) Iron titan - 7,931 (211) ===== 36,514 Crimson charms The cost of shards (Look above for the number of each and number of shards per pouch.) (I am assuming you buy them for 25 each) Honeybadgers - 1,123,500 Bloated leeches - 4,288,050 Stranger plants - 7,833,600 Granite lobster - 27,564,300 Swamp titans - 32,794,500 Wolpertinger - 28,262,675 Pack yak - 10,825,650 Iron titan - 41,836,025 =====154,528,300 Coins for Shards Cash back for trading shards for 70% at Bogrog. (Look above for the number of each and number of shards per pouch.) (I am assuming you sell them for 25 each) Honeybadgers - 786,450 Bloated leeches - 3,001,635 Stranger plants - 5,483,520 Granite lobster - 19,295,010 Swamp titans - 22,956,150 Wolpertinger - 19,783,872 Pack yak - 7,577,955 Iron titan - 29,285,217 ===== 108,169,809 Coins cash back for Shards ===== 46,358,491 Coins total for Shards Cost of Secondary ingredience (Assuming you buy them for medium price 7/28/08) (Parenthesis is amount needed per level) Honeybadgers - 130 (535) Bloated leeches - 69 (1,466) Stranger plants - 1,144 (2,448) Granite lobster - 1,263 (6,642) Swamp titans - 1,259 (8,746) Wolpertinger - Raw rabbit = 86 | Wolf bone = 453 (5,569) Pack yak - 154 (2,187) Iron titan - 375 (7,931) ===== N/A Number of coins on secondary ingredience Honeybadgers - 69,550 Bloated leeches - 101,154 Stranger plants - 2,800,512 Granite lobster - 8,388,846 Swamp titans - 11,011,214 Wolpertinger - 478934 | 2,522,757 = 3,001,691 Pack yak - 336,798 Iron titan - 2,974,125 ===== 28,683,890 Coins total for Secondary ingredience 75,042,381 Coins total on Secondary ingredience and Shards Cost of charms at Rock lobsters.(I am assuming you bought runes at medium price. 7/28/08) 220 Crimsons/1,000 Bursts 292/Death. 584/Gp on Deaths. 98/Chaos. 392/Gp on Chaos. 16/Water. 64/Gp on Waters. 1040 Coins/Burst. 1,040,000/1000 Bursts 1,040,000/220 Crimsons 4727 Coins per Crimsons at Rock lobsters. 36,514 Crimson charms for 99. 172,601,678 Coins for bursting ===== FINISHING ===== 28,683,890 Coins total for Secondary ingredience 46,358,491 Coins total for Shards 172,601,678 Coins for Burst Rock lobsters. 247,644,059 Coins total if you burst Rock lobsters. 75,042,381 Coins total if you kill Waterfiends/Slayer. (Assuming you don't make any money from either.)(Although you will. ;), so it's more around 50m from Waterfiends... )[/hide] [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremmy Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 [hide=Estimate cost to 99 Summoning!]Number of charms required (Assuming using only Crimsons) (Parenthesis is shards per pouch.) Honeybadgers - 535 (84) Bloated leeches - 1,466 (117) Stranger plants - 2,448 (128) Granite lobster - 6,642 (166) Swamp titans - 8,746 (150) Wolpertinger - 5,569 (203) Pack yak -2,187 (198) Iron titan - 7,931 (211) ===== 36,514 Crimson charms The cost of shards (Look above for the number of each and number of shards per pouch.) (I am assuming you buy them for 25 each) Honeybadgers - 1,123,500 Bloated leeches - 4,288,050 Stranger plants - 7,833,600 Granite lobster - 27,564,300 Swamp titans - 32,794,500 Wolpertinger - 28,262,675 Pack yak - 10,825,650 Iron titan - 41,836,025 =====154,528,300 Coins for Shards Cash back for trading shards for 70% at Bogrog. (Look above for the number of each and number of shards per pouch.) (I am assuming you sell them for 25 each) Honeybadgers - 786,450 Bloated leeches - 3,001,635 Stranger plants - 5,483,520 Granite lobster - 19,295,010 Swamp titans - 22,956,150 Wolpertinger - 19,783,872 Pack yak - 7,577,955 Iron titan - 29,285,217 ===== 108,169,809 Coins cash back for Shards ===== 46,358,491 Coins total for Shards Cost of Secondary ingredience (Assuming you buy them for medium price 7/28/08) (Parenthesis is amount needed per level) Honeybadgers - 130 (535) Bloated leeches - 69 (1,466) Stranger plants - 1,144 (2,448) Granite lobster - 1,263 (6,642) Swamp titans - 1,259 (8,746) Wolpertinger - Raw rabbit = 86 | Wolf bone = 453 (5,569) Pack yak - 154 (2,187) Iron titan - 375 (7,931) ===== N/A Number of coins on secondary ingredience Honeybadgers - 69,550 Bloated leeches - 101,154 Stranger plants - 2,800,512 Granite lobster - 8,388,846 Swamp titans - 11,011,214 Wolpertinger - 478934 | 2,522,757 = 3,001,691 Pack yak - 336,798 Iron titan - 2,974,125 ===== 28,683,890 Coins total for Secondary ingredience 75,042,381 Coins total on Secondary ingredience and Shards Cost of charms at Rock lobsters.(I am assuming you bought runes at medium price. 7/28/08) 220 Crimsons/1,000 Bursts 292/Death. 584/Gp on Deaths. 98/Chaos. 392/Gp on Chaos. 16/Water. 64/Gp on Waters. 1040 Coins/Burst. 1,040,000/1000 Bursts 1,040,000/220 Crimsons 4727 Coins per Crimsons at Rock lobsters. 36,514 Crimson charms for 99. 172,601,678 Coins for bursting ===== FINISHING ===== 28,683,890 Coins total for Secondary ingredience 46,358,491 Coins total for Shards 172,601,678 Coins for Burst Rock lobsters. 247,644,059 Coins total if you burst Rock lobsters. 75,042,381 Coins total if you kill Waterfiends/Slayer. (Assuming you don't make any money from either.)(Although you will. ;), so it's more around 50m from Waterfiends... )[/hide] Thank you very much! I think I'm going crazy with GWD and get high summoning later, as I'd like a balance between slayer/bursting/fiends :P. Nice calculations, very helpful :) Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 [hide=Estimate cost to 99 Summoning!]Number of charms required (Assuming using only Crimsons) (Parenthesis is shards per pouch.) Honeybadgers - 535 (84) Bloated leeches - 1,466 (117) Stranger plants - 2,448 (128) Granite lobster - 6,642 (166) Swamp titans - 8,746 (150) Wolpertinger - 5,569 (203) Pack yak -2,187 (198) Iron titan - 7,931 (211) ===== 36,514 Crimson charms The cost of shards (Look above for the number of each and number of shards per pouch.) (I am assuming you buy them for 25 each) Honeybadgers - 1,123,500 Bloated leeches - 4,288,050 Stranger plants - 7,833,600 Granite lobster - 27,564,300 Swamp titans - 32,794,500 Wolpertinger - 28,262,675 Pack yak - 10,825,650 Iron titan - 41,836,025 =====154,528,300 Coins for Shards Cash back for trading shards for 70% at Bogrog. (Look above for the number of each and number of shards per pouch.) (I am assuming you sell them for 25 each) Honeybadgers - 786,450 Bloated leeches - 3,001,635 Stranger plants - 5,483,520 Granite lobster - 19,295,010 Swamp titans - 22,956,150 Wolpertinger - 19,783,872 Pack yak - 7,577,955 Iron titan - 29,285,217 ===== 108,169,809 Coins cash back for Shards ===== 46,358,491 Coins total for Shards Cost of Secondary ingredience (Assuming you buy them for medium price 7/28/08) (Parenthesis is amount needed per level) Honeybadgers - 130 (535) Bloated leeches - 69 (1,466) Stranger plants - 1,144 (2,448) Granite lobster - 1,263 (6,642) Swamp titans - 1,259 (8,746) Wolpertinger - Raw rabbit = 86 | Wolf bone = 453 (5,569) Pack yak - 154 (2,187) Iron titan - 375 (7,931) ===== N/A Number of coins on secondary ingredience Honeybadgers - 69,550 Bloated leeches - 101,154 Stranger plants - 2,800,512 Granite lobster - 8,388,846 Swamp titans - 11,011,214 Wolpertinger - 478934 | 2,522,757 = 3,001,691 Pack yak - 336,798 Iron titan - 2,974,125 ===== 28,683,890 Coins total for Secondary ingredience 75,042,381 Coins total on Secondary ingredience and Shards Cost of charms at Rock lobsters.(I am assuming you bought runes at medium price. 7/28/08) 220 Crimsons/1,000 Bursts 292/Death. 584/Gp on Deaths. 98/Chaos. 392/Gp on Chaos. 16/Water. 64/Gp on Waters. 1040 Coins/Burst. 1,040,000/1000 Bursts 1,040,000/220 Crimsons 4727 Coins per Crimsons at Rock lobsters. 36,514 Crimson charms for 99. 172,601,678 Coins for bursting ===== FINISHING ===== 28,683,890 Coins total for Secondary ingredience 46,358,491 Coins total for Shards 172,601,678 Coins for Burst Rock lobsters. 247,644,059 Coins total if you burst Rock lobsters. 75,042,381 Coins total if you kill Waterfiends/Slayer. (Assuming you don't make any money from either.)(Although you will. ;), so it's more around 50m from Waterfiends... )[/hide] Thank you very much! I think I'm going crazy with GWD and get high summoning later, as I'd like a balance between slayer/bursting/fiends :P. Nice calculations, very helpful :) Calculations are pretty accurate, but I've found the charm rate a bit lower then what he says. Still, if you make more then 650k an hour (easily possible at GWD) its better to barrage - faster charms means less time training summon and more time making money at gwd\whatever. Is it fast? Yes. Is it expensive? Yes. I spent around 150m on 90 summon, although that may be a bit higher then normal because I was still learning the ropes. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
child_sycopath Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 thats more than enough for 99 summon as you get 70% of your shards back (which in effect means 1 shard = 3.34 shards) Are you sure thats right? 70% of 1 is 3.34? Anyway, 99 Summoning still costs a bunch More then 100M I think almost then 200M Btw Inu, Thats really good numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSxqPowerx Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 It is cheaper if you use only crimsons, but totally ignoring the other charms will slow you down, although they cost more. I believe blue is cheaper though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 It is cheaper if you use only crimsons, but totally ignoring the other charms will slow you down, although they cost more. I believe blue is cheaper though. Gold is cheaper too. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSxqPowerx Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 It is cheaper if you use only crimsons, but totally ignoring the other charms will slow you down, although they cost more. I believe blue is cheaper though. Gold is cheaper too.Meh lol, I forget... I really didn't worry about the price when I did it. If that's the case then, using only crimson is more expensive. So potentially the cost will be cheaper than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Is it even reasonable to train with wolpertingers because of them having 2 seconds? Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Is it even reasonable to train with wolpertingers because of them having 2 seconds? Yes. The time making pouches is like 5% of getting chamrs. :lol: [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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