Multi-Site Steel War 4 (Oct 18, 2pm Edt)

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[Ts_Stormrage]

This is an UNOFFICIAL post that is not an official Multi Site Steel War Tip.it Post. One Will be made soon ~Das

 

 

 

This one WILL however be updated frequently, with a suggested strategy for ALL to read, AND to comment on with suggestions, omissions or ideas!

 

 

 

Latest update on: October 16th, 23:44 GMT - Look for the LIME parts

 

 

 

 

 

INTRODUCTION

 

Before talking about any strategies, allow me to (re-)introduce this event...

 

 

 

This will be the 4th time that colossal armies from major fansites clash in a massive free for all fight in a huge effort to prove which fansite has the most and the best warriors... Two times so far RSC won... And not surprisingly, as they have quite a few well organised clans that support them... Clans that have fought against and along side one another for years... Tip.it won the last round... And not for a a lack of trying by the other sites, but let it be said that the only reason that we won is that we attracted ONE THOUSAND souls to march to their deaths with a green cape on their backs...

 

 

 

This time around, things will be different... RSC will definitly want revenge, and a new fansite has joined in the mix known as Pure Community...

 

I'm working hard and expecting full well to see atleast another thousand people with Cape 39 marching on that Ancient yet ruined castle, int he far North-East of the wilderness... But numbers alone aren't going to get us there...

 

To put it in terms we can all understand:

 

 

 

RSC/Pure Community = Spartans

 

Tip.it = Persians

 

 

 

So what lessons have we learned from that movie? Other then Arrows being kind of pointless :P

 

 

 

Stick to the areas where our numbers count... Multi combat zones... (a crude map detailing this will soon be released)

 

 

 

 

 

OUTFIT AND INVENTORY

 

I'd also like a word with you on the outfit we'll be wearing...

 

 

 

 

Steel Full Helm

 

Steel Platebody

 

Steel Plateskirt

 

Steel Kiteshield

 

Fighter (or Fancy) boots

 

Teamcape 39 (Tip.it's cape makes others who wear it show up blue on the minimap, but we wont kill you if you wear other green-ish capes)

 

Explorers Ring (you can get it back easily when you lose it)

 

Rune Scimitar (fast and accurate attacks) or Corrupt Dragon items if you are willing to use them!!!

 

Power Amulet (this helps both offensivly and defensivly, if you are confident to stay alive a long time, you can use Strength as well)

 

Steel Gauntlets (from the FoG minigame, they are very cheap and a lot better then Green D'hide Vambraces)

 

 

 

As you can see, I stayed within the boundries of what is allowed, and still provided a pretty effective outfit... You may wish to go for a Rune 2hander, but the slowness of the attacks, especially with that many people around, is not weighing up against the speed of a Scimitar...

 

Work on getting these items as soon as possible, as well as getting your Attack and Strength levels up just a notch extra before the war is upon us...

 

 

 

[hide=BATTLEAXE REVIEW]Some people suggested the Battleaxe as a weapon. As it is more powerful (20 added strength points compared to the Scimitar) its "increased" accuracy on both Slash and Crush attacks is barely noticable. You would be sacrificing 3 attempts to hit your opponent for 2 in the same amount of time, in the hopes of hitting slightly higher (up to 4 damage added to your highest possible hit). If you plan on staying in the Single Combat zone, you may wish to use this, but with the help of your fellow Tip.iters in the Multi Zone, rapidly dishing out the damage, dont waste your time and use the fast Scimitar instead.[/hide]

 

 

 

Inventory wise its pretty straightforward:

 

 

 

 

2 Strength Potions (4 dose)

 

6-10 Anchovie Pizza (they heal 9 per bite, a pizza has 2 halves, 18hp healed)

 

16-20 Swordfish (healing 14)

 

 

 

As I said, pretty simple set-up. You can wolf down your Swordfish when you're under attack, but for just healing back up, Anchovie Pizzas are best used. The Strength Potions have an obvious reason, and dont be afraid to use another dose before your Strengh level has returned to normal...

 

 

 

I chose this set-up and inventory based on the fact that we have OVERWHELMING numbers of (and I hate to say this) inexperienced people... These items allow for dishing out quick and relativly high and accurate damage, ignoring the need to stay alive somewhat... The one thing we can do easily is replace the fallen in the battle, and with such overwhelming numbers, they cannot target all of us at once, while we CAN target all of them at once... Hence the main focus on Accuracy, Strength and Speed, rather then the need to defend ourselves...

 

Those who are confident tankers (and you know who you are) may substitute a unit of food or a Strength Potion for a Holy Symbol (credit to Killerred005)... When attacked this allows your prayer to last longer, and it adds minor defensive capabilities as well...

 

It has been suggested to bring a magical Staff to help you tank, since it has some minor defensive capabilities... IT IS MY BELIEF that such an item in a war where maging is a huge no-no will only attract more attackers on you... Furthermore to prevent claims of cheating, we should NOT be bringing such items with us...

 

 

 

 

 

CONSCRIPTION

 

As I understand it, a number of measures are taken to alert EVERYONE to the new and upcoming War, inclouding an upcoming alert on the main website... But you can help!

 

Adding a banner or link to your Signature which links back to this thread, especially on forums other then Tip.it (such as your clan, or other group) is a huge help, but what counts the most, is you telling your friends about this...

 

And have them tell their friends about this...

 

And if they are in a clan, why not bring the whole clan along?

 

And why not have everyone in that clan bring THEIR friends..?

 

Anywho, you get the picture...

 

 

 

Now, the biggest challenge:

 

Getting those hundreds of people on the server, and having them stay logged in long enough so that the other major fansites cant have the same number on that server when the time comes...

 

Last time there were people on our gathering spot (Edgeville) already in full gear TWELVE HOURS before we were supposed to march into the Wilderness... And what were they doing? Cooking food, gathering capes, trading scimies, and some were in Varrock smithing steel...

 

Thats what you will probably see me and a good number of my clan do, and we'll be handing out supplies freely (BYOW; Bring your own weapon such as a Rune Scim, Battleaxe, or 2hander)...

 

 

 

So what can you do? Be early! Be early and stay put... Just hang with other tipiters (you might make new friends), help make or distribute supplies... Keeping your spot on the server means 1 spot the enemy cannot take... Last time we issued instructions to log in 1 hour early, and it worked brilliantly... This time I'd like to make it ATLEAST 90 minutes, but preferably 2 hours in advance of this fight...

 

 

 

We will be using Edgeville bank (and BANK ONLY, read more later) once again as our Rallypoint... From there DBZ lead us last time to the Ancient Ruins in the Wilderness, this time we're doing the exact same thing... Why Edgeville?

 

It's been Tip.it's Rallypoint since the MSSW ever began, it has a bank, and its not far from things such as Monastary, Anvils or the Grand Exchange... More on this in the Locations section, to be added soon...

 

 

 

 

 

PRAYER

 

First, boost your Prayer points beyond their maximum if you can. F2P people can get 2 points from the Monastary, but members can get 8 points from the Oog'log pool, and a WHOLE BUNCH more using the Ancient Mace special ability... I've tested it and it carries over to the F2P server where the fight will be on.

 

If you want to look up how much of an effect it can be, just check out my stats... Add some strength boosting gear, and I can hit a 19 with an Ancient Mace, allowing me to start the battle with 89/70 Prayer...

 

 

 

This has been a topic of discussion for a while now and I want people to post their opinions and ideas... Basicly, for this fight, we'll be using 4 Prayers:

 

- Attack +15%

 

- Strength +15%

 

- Defense +15%

 

- Melee Protect

 

 

 

Turning them all on right when the fight starts, and you're out within a minute...

 

The one you'll be using the most is Attack +15%. Straight from the start, whenever you're attacking someone equal or higher combat level then yourself use this one. The added accuracy with your Strength Potion combined gives you the edge you need. ofcourse, if you happen to have 20 friends attacking the same guy, dont bother :)

 

You can keep using this prayer till you have about 10-12 points left...

 

 

 

Strength +15% is one you will probably not use a lot, but there are a few occasions where it might be neccisary. If you have trouble killing your current target because he keeps running away, or eats slightly faster then you and your team is hitting him, turn this on in conjunction with Attack +15%, and take a sip of your Strength Potion... Dont forget to turn it off when you see its no longer needed...

 

 

 

Then there are those times when you will be attacked, and that is where the last few prayers come in...

 

If you happen to have been painted (aka, you're the next that they want to see dead), both Defense +15% and Melee Protect should be used at the same time to minimize damage (this is what those 10-12 points are for)... While you have these turned on, and are wolfing down your food to stay alive, you can either attempt to tank it out (running behind a corner so your enemies get stuck), or run as fast as you can to an area full of friendlies (thats us)...

 

 

 

If you happen to drag a whole group of enemies in the heart of a field full of green capes, then the enemy will not last long... This is particularly usefull when to drag higher levelled enemies from Single combat to Multi combat zones... But I'm getting ahead of my self, Strategies during the actual fight will be posted later! STAY TUNED!!!

 

 

 

UPDATE:

 

LOCATIONS

 

First, lets start with the location we are supposed to rally at: Edgeville.

 

Close to Varrock for smithing more Steel Stuff, or the Grand Exchange to buy other needed supplies. Edgeville has ranges to cook your food on (I'm quite sure someone will start a fire though).

 

The other location you must know is where the Ancient Ruined castle is in the Wilderness, and you should study http://this map carefully and see the obvious route we will take to it; North-east to Clanwars, then North and east around Clanwars, continuing further north. Staying on this path increases the likelyhood of meeting other friendly soldiers.

 

 

 

DO NOT GO TOO FAR OUT OF THE BANK WHEN WE'RE STILL AT EDGEVILLE, YOU ARE THEN AT RISK TO BE KILLED!!!

 

 

 

On the PvP world, when you are early, it is VERY tempting to go out of the bank and wander around... DO NOT DO THIS!!! People can be attacked when they are 1 foot outside of the bank, and with any luck there wont be any enemies... But I expect them to fight dirty against our overwhelming odds...

 

 

 

Clans such as my own will however organise a few strike forces. We have some rune and runes to spare, and if a few people are playing the pain-in-the-[wagon], then we might strike out quickly to kill them, discouraging them from trying that again. However, IF another clan decides to lay siege to Edgeville bank, we could be in deep trouble...

 

Mind you it is a single combat zone around Edgeville, this means you will only have 1 person attacking you at a time, so be on your toes for the people who can attack you because you are in their range...

 

 

 

At ALL times, wear your TEAMCAPE!!! (teamcape nr 39)

 

We will be able to tell who is the enemy and who is not...

 

 

 

USE THE MINIMAP TO NAVIGATE!!! CLICKING ON THE MAINSCREEN MAY CAUSE HEADACHES, FRIENDLY HEALTH BAR SHRINKAGE AND HARD FEELINGS!!! Usually as a result of accidently attacking a friendly.

 

 

 

And finally; pay attention to orders being shouted in the designated ClanChats, if we leave, it is imperitive that we ALL leave, and if we get mugged along the way to the battlefield, it isnt a good idea to just keep walking... Form up, and kill the ones who seem to jump the gun :)

 

 

 

STRATEGY

 

Well, our strategy is to kill every last person who's cape isn't some shade of green. To do this we need a couple of tactics. Lets start with a few defensive moves (remember prayer usage) after which I'll try to line out IN SIMPLE TERMS the most efficient ways of killing the enemy.

 

 

 

Defense:

 

As I previously stated, we have the numbers, but not the skill, and maybe not even the levels. So rather then just sticking to a fight, if you want to make it hard for your opponents, we'll do something called Tanking. Its quite easy. You've all once followed a friend around and then got stuck behind some fence or tree or what not...

 

 

 

Here's an example:

 

 

The person in full rune was attacking me. I ran to the wall and made a sharp U-turn around it, but my opponent got stuck behind it. he is not attacking me now, and if we HAD to race, I am 2 squares ahead of him, meaning he cannot hit me. If I were to make a dash for it, I would run west, leaving my opponent stuck behind the wall, forcing him to find a new target.

 

However, if he "re-aquires" me as a target and starts hitting me again, I can do the same thing again at the Blue dot, making a U-turn around that wall...

 

 

 

 

Same thing, only this time I saw the door was open and ran into the building, again making an immediate U-turn. I could right now go upstairs or out the other door, running east or south around the building.

 

 

 

Another highly valuable piece of defensive advise is to ALWAYS eat when you can without wasting hitpoints. If you have 68/70hp dont eat. If you have 60 or lower/70hp eat half an Anchovie Pizza (->69/70). If you have 56 or lower/70hp, eat a Swordfish (->70/70). This means you should ALWAYS BE AS CLOSE TO FULL HEALTH AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT WASTING FOOD!!

 

Do not worry about wasting food. While you can now, due to the recent update, pick up 22 Swordfish every 15 minutes (when having completed all F2P Quests), the floor will be littered with them! I STRONGLY recommend you to read the latest updates about drops on PvP worlds.

 

 

 

These are basic defensive tactics, and THEY WILL BE USED AGAINST US!!! BE PREPARED!!!

 

If you feel kind of useless and can't seem to find your targets, stand at these type of locations (there are more), waiting for a non-green cape to turn the corner, and thats when you whack him. They cannot run forever, but if we spread ourselves a tiny bit, it will look like we CAN.

 

 

 

Offense:

 

Finally, the most important part. SLAUGHTERING THEM ALL!!!

 

So how do we do this before they kill us? Simple, kill them faster then they can kill us. And because we have the favor of numbers, we'll be putting multiple people on a single target. Sounds easy enough doesn't it? It's a little more complicated then that, so, we'll start by setting some basic rules:

 

- Know your limits, and be sure to recognize people with Corrupt Dragon items. They should die first and fast!

 

- 5 people of level 90 can kill a level 100 with ease, and a level 110 with difficulty

 

- A level 100 can easily kill 5 lvl 70s

 

- Dont be stingy with your Super Strengths or Food. More is dropped as people are getting killed.

 

- Always help with killing someone, do not target someone yourself

 

- Keep an eye out for targets being "called".

 

 

 

That last one is the one I will explain further, as it's all we need. Currently, a leadership is selected, but do not be surprised if several other un-official people will start saying stuff such as "Tip black" or "T rune" or "Tipit storm". What this means is that this caller (or pile-leader, or battle-commander) wants everyone in his vicinity to target and kill someone who has the word black, rune, or storm respectivly in their name.

 

For example, my name is TS Stormrage. I might be referred to as "TS" "Storm" or "Stormrage". Right-click in the vicinity of the person just ordering the kill to find the intended target, and select to attack him. After that repeat the exact same thing that your caller just said, so anyone else also wanting to kill him.

 

 

 

I dug up this moldy video of a few noob Tip.it clans :mrgreen: flexing their muscles before the main MSSW event. You can see them repeating the order being given so the rest of the people know where the current target can roughly be found.:

 

 

 

 

When attacking a person who is fleeing far south to the Single Zone, DO NOT FOLLOW! Most likely he will have friends standing by to help him pick everyone off 1 by 1. The higher levelled amongst us may wish to follow in order to finish him off. So put AUTO-RETALIATE off...

 

 

 

 

 

ANOTHER UPDATE

 

Das has released the names of the Leader [L] and Generals [G]. In his words:

 

The bold men who lead us to victory:

 

 

 

[L] Dbzruler72, Leader of *-P.K.Masters-*, Also the leader during the last MSSW

 

[G] Red Fat 1, Warlord of Veni Vedi Vici

 

[G] Das1330, Founder of Keepers of Forgotten Honour, currently un-afiliated with a clan, Tip.it Admin

 

[G] Thiesje2, Leader of Clan Faith

 

[G] Sanpedro88, Leader of Warriors of Fury

 

[G] Masaca1, Leader of Warriors of Fury

 

[G] Killerred005, Co-Leader of *-P.K.Masters-*

 

[G] Valaraz, Leader of THE

 

[G] Elit9, Former leader of Clan Forbidden, Currently a Comrade

 

[G] Mario Sunny, Former CIC leader, Former Events organiser in the Tal Shiar Alliance, Former CTET leader

 

[G] Ts Stormrage, Leader of the Tal Shiar Alliance, author of this post

 

 

 

A number of ClanChats will be used to help coordinate the war easier. Its imperitive that you join these and find your/a "Fall In" Leader. This means you sit in their ClanChat, and follow them around in battle following their orders as explained earlier.

 

People of your ClanChat appear purple on your minimap. Use this to see where your team is if you happen to have lost track of them... (Blue is same Teamcape, and Green is ofcourse, Friends...)

 

 

 

 

 

CLOSING THOUGHTS

 

That is about all there is that I have to suggest. I will keep updating this post with new information coming in, but right now, all we can do is make sure we gather as many people as we did last time.

 

I'm very confident in the leadership skills that some Tip.iters will take upon them, as I am also confident that the less experienced amongst us will follow their instructions.

 

 

 

Clans amongst us will try and organise themselves and may hold a strategy more adapted to their own wants and needs. A group of extremely high levelled players way wish to fight the single zone fights as they can easily handle themselves against others.

 

 

 

But most important thing to remember is to have fun. The plan is here for those taking Tip.it's command to take into consideration to use, but this is what the collective minds of a dedicated few have come up with. If all else fails, atleast remember the lessons learned in this.

 

 

 

Good fight, Good evening, and Good fun...

 

 

 

 

 

PvP WORLD UPDATE!!!

 

With the PvP world update, a few things have changed, but everything is in essence still the same. You can still run around corners to get rid of a pile of enemies, but you'll have more difficulty this time as they are far and wide apart... Also Corrupt Dragon weapons is a thing to watch out for, and the leaders will try and take these guys out fast, as they probably represent the most danger to us, and this is because the onyl way to GET such an item is to be good at killing other people ON PvP worlds...

 

 

 

One last time, and I cant stress this enough:

 

Stay within the boundries of Edgeville Bank, there is where you cant be attacked. If it is safe to venture out a little, to start a fire and cook some more food, then do so while wearing your teamcape! It is very important to wear this at all times, it is what says to everyone else wearing the same cape that you are a friend and it means you cannot left-click to attack him (something EXTREMELY usefull when crossing the wilderness ditch...

 

 

 

I doubt anyone is stupid enough to attack a team of hundreds of people, so if we are a bit organised in keeping the trash away from Edgeville, we should be just fine. I do expect masses of chaos as there is simply not enough room for us all so everyone should do their best to warn others to go back inside the bank in case of an attack on Edgeville...

[decebal]

Sorry if I am intrerupting any reserves, but I have to say this:

 

 

 

W00t!!!

 

 

 

Who will be the leader this time?

[The Observer]

Nice!! I can't wait! :

[Lady_Shahdie]

Yay I'm so exhilarated that I'll be able to aid Tip.It again! I was very disheartened when the first plan for MSSW4 was going to be constricted to only 200 fighters. This shall be epic. I just pray that nothing will come up for me on Oct 18 :pray:...

[ashozzy2]

res for tips

[D. V. Devnull]

"Free-for-all (Dangerous)"?!?!?!? WTF?!?!?!?

 

 

 

Sorry, but I won't be there... Too many bank issues. If you'd really wanted people joining easy, you should have made it "Free-For-All (Safe)"... :shame:

 

 

 

(And gee, I would have come to watch if it had been in the safe area, even if I hadn't joined in.)

 

 

 

~Mr. D. V. Devnull

 

(a.k.a.: "The Disappointed Dude")

[Ts_Stormrage]

Sacrificing full steel with a rune scimi is nothing? Even in full gear thats not a whole lot to sacrifice... Hell, I'll give you the set of steel with an ammy to go :) I'll throw in some food as well :)

[primadog]

destroy... all... humans....

[Nope12345]

destroy... all... humans....

 

Except Tip.it ers :D

 

 

 

This will be Epic, ill have to pull an All nighter to get there, but ill come!

 

 

 

But seriously, Why Free for All (Dangerous), you cant even loot graves, you have to wait for 5ish minutes and by that time Someone would've killed you :roll:

[Zuit]

I am so going to be there :thumbsup: \ :thumbsup: \

[Flodder450]

Woooot! \

 

For tip.iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! :twisted:

 

we are soooooooooo going to pwn teh ofer n00bs :ugeek:

[thiesje]

I'll be there, with some of my clan. :)

[obfuscator]

Well I must say I'm quite glad this has finally gotten off the ground :)

 

Already booked off work :D

 

Are we going to be hosting drills or practices of any sort for those who want them?

[Den]

Sounds awesome, count me in. ;)

[Lowgravity]

I'll definately be there.

[jcfc]

How can you have rules and a tournament in the free-for-all arena? Am I the only one to notice that? :shock:

 

 

 

EDIT: Oh I get it! So are there two winners this year? o.o

[Lady_Shahdie]

To those of you complaining about the free-for-all dangerous setting...have you all forgotten how the original MSSWs WERE?! They all involved the risk of fighting for your favorite fan site by risking life, honor, and loot. Changing it to the free-for-all safe would take away that previous adrenaline rush and would be too far a departure from what MSSW originally was.

[Xecer]

ok, *comes*

[Jimmyw3000]

To those of you complaining about the free-for-all dangerous setting...have you all forgotten how the original MSSWs WERE?! They all involved the risk of fighting for your favorite fan site by risking life, honor, and loot. Changing it to the free-for-all safe would take away that previous adrenaline rush and would be too far a departure from what MSSW originally was.

 

 

 

Exactly, and if it was safe, you'd get people running back in and fighting again. Making it dangerous would stop them and if they have several sets of steel/rscims, then it's their cash&time. It's a lot fairer. Cant wait for it, i just hope i dont get piled :/

[Ts_Stormrage]

Everyone start putting the MSSW thing with BOLD and colors in your sig... spread it to your friends, and ask them to spread it to there friends and have them ask their friends to spread it to their friend's friends...

[Dbzruler72]

Saw this at school earlier today. Good decision on the delay.

 

 

 

Now to organize.

[armybuilder]

WOOT! Finally. But Dustin the times are confusing.

 

 

 

the time says its 6PM GMT

 

Whilst the converter says its going to be 7pm GMT (it was me who pointed it out to TS +P )

 

 

 

LETS GO LADS AND GIRLS WE CAN DO IT AGAIN!!!

[dustin]

WOOT! Finally. But Dustin the times are confusing.

 

 

 

the time says its 6PM GMT

 

Whilst the converter says its going to be 7pm GMT (it was me who pointed it out to TS +P )

 

 

 

LETS GO LADS AND GIRLS WE CAN DO IT AGAIN!!!

 

timezones are confusing, but the converter is always right (just so long as your computer time is right) so just use that time :)

[Ts_Stormrage]

First batch of instructions released, please read this post...