Will H Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I would like to make it clear that I am not seeking to be a Scientologist, neither do I support the rumoured actions of the CoS should they be true. I merely wish have a somewhat unbiased knowledge on the subject. Now, the vast majority of people here know of Scientology and its Church, mostly through their clashes with Anonymous and Project Chanology, known as Scientology versus The Internet. However, during these clashes claims such as the 'Xenu' story and other strong references to extraterrestrials have arisen, which I think are highly unlikely to be the whole truth, or maybe even any of the truth at all. So, I wanted to ask some questions: What does a Scientologist believe? Or maybe more accurately, what must one believe in order to be classified as a Scientologist? :?: Post away. :mrgreen: ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Will H Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 Denis, I've already had a look at that, but wikipedia articles about controversial subjects aren't too reliable, as well as the fact that the neutrality is disputed. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megakiller32 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 We can't tell you until you donate all your money and more to the CoS. And then they'll sue us all for telling. The wikipedia article does actually sum it up, from a neutral view imo. Everything they believe is pure [cabbage], and i'm sure everyone will agree with me. Quit Runescape 30th May 2006.Thanks to Hawkxs for my signature :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryomancer Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Please don't bash Scientology. Although I'm sure many of you don't agree with its doctrines, it is still a religion followed by many people. You wouldn't bash Christianity or Islam, so don't do it here either. They believe (this is only from my memory) that we are all Thetans, souls of aliens that existed and were persecuted before humans existed. They resided in Earth until humans evolved, then took their bodies. Is that right? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azvareth Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 From what I've understood it's not exactly 100% clear what they "believe". Through indoctrination they're brainwashed to believe in the Xenu stuff, body thetans, SPs and that they can achieve these amazing "powers" if you give the "church" all your money. Everything just gets gradually crazier the higher they reach. But shortly put, they basically believe they can save the world and that they are the only ones who can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scootlaboot Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 We can't tell you until you donate all your money and more to the CoS. And then they'll sue us all for telling. The wikipedia article does actually sum it up, from a neutral view imo. Everything they believe is pure [cabbage], and i'm sure everyone will agree with me. I agree with you. When you "have" to pay the church, it is a cult. I really don't think that they believe anything, but instead are brainwashed to think that they actually believe in something. If you choose your beliefs/lifestyle simply based on what your parents want, then you are a weak minded individual and are not even worthy of calling yourself a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryomancer Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 The OP asked for what Scientologists believe, not your personal views on them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauke Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Please don't bash Scientology. Although I'm sure many of you don't agree with its doctrines, it is still a religion followed by many people. You wouldn't bash Christianity or Islam, so don't do it here either. A religion is what they call it? Well, maybe where you live, but here they're on an official list of cults. But yeah, if you want a view on what those extremists believe, you should watch the South Park episode. Granted, it's not quite neutral, but it sure gives you a good laugh and certain bits of facts of what they actually believe. Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_mumm_ra Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Please don't bash Scientology. Although I'm sure many of you don't agree with its doctrines, it is still a religion followed by many people. You wouldn't bash Christianity or Islam, so don't do it here either. i actually might, depending on which specific part of the religion was being discussed. if it was something i was fully against, yeah i'd bash it. i don't know anything about scientology though, so i can't really give my opinion on this specific subject (except for the south park episode which was awesome). seems more cultish than anything. *this is not the view of tipit, nor the staff as a whole but my own personal view of the subject at hand.* [hide=WOO TEXT! updated Jan 19, 2009 (last quote)] And Evil you mad bastard. You are definately bringing TET back up to it's glory. No doubt about it. Keep it going champ.24,485th to 99 defence on 7-23-08I always forget you're 20 too. I always think you're 25 or something. o.oYa think that I'm insane, Its not sane... its not saneobligitory devart link: http://evil-mumm-ra.deviantart.com/Pogonophobia is the fear of beards.She isn't naked so it's legal.I'm a porn star.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickeley102 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 hubbard was a decent science fiction writer before ascending and becoming an alien as close as i can tell, scientology is like a science fiction story, taken seriously (a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Please don't bash Scientology. Although I'm sure many of you don't agree with its doctrines, it is still a religion followed by many people. You wouldn't bash Christianity or Islam, so don't do it here either. *Snicker* My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megakiller32 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Please don't bash Scientology. Although I'm sure many of you don't agree with its doctrines, it is still a religion followed by many people. You wouldn't bash Christianity or Islam, so don't do it here either. They believe (this is only from my memory) that we are all Thetans, souls of aliens that existed and were persecuted before humans existed. They resided in Earth until humans evolved, then took their bodies. Is that right? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I would but it's so much [cabbage], i'm afraid my brain is at risk of explosure. I would like to draw attention to your quote: "it is still a religion followed by many people. You wouldn't bash Christianity or Islam, so don't do it here either." A) It's not a religion, it's a cult. What defines a cult? You pay to be a part of it. While in all other religions, you pay optionally B)...some of us would bash christiany and islam :D Quit Runescape 30th May 2006.Thanks to Hawkxs for my signature :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Please don't bash Scientology. Although I'm sure many of you don't agree with its doctrines, it is still a religion followed by many people. You wouldn't bash Christianity or Islam, so don't do it here either. As expected of pyro :thumbup: . [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range_This11 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I would like to draw attention to your quote: "it is still a religion followed by many people. You wouldn't bash Christianity or Islam, so don't do it here either." A) It's not a religion, it's a cult. What defines a cult? You pay to be a part of it. While in all other religions, you pay optionally B)...some of us would bash christiany and islam :D I would and have bashed Christianity on these boards on multiple occasions. I find cults, religions, and superstitions to be all in the same category, very primitive in nature, and not applicable to civilized people living in the 21st century. "He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Denis, I've already had a look at that, but wikipedia articles about controversial subjects aren't too reliable, as well as the fact that the neutrality is disputed. Forum is even more unreliable. The best thing to do is ask people who actually believe in it. Some guys in the church of Scientology (Toronto) can explain it pretty logically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Adam Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 This guy wrote a science fiction story which attracted a large group of people into worshiping the main plot of the story. The author then decided to make a group dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge, and called it "Scientology." The previous group naturally joined this group, and believed that the author's scientific pursuit was worth following, so they joined his pursuit, and began to believe that his writings were true. This man than either: a) Manipulated his followers into baking large amounts of cookies to sustain him forever, B) Tried to get his name into history books by turning his group of followers into a "religion," c) Wrote another book that depicted him becoming lord of Everything. ~ It seems he chose B), and in doing so, L. Ron Hubbard has been remembered as the father of Scientology. His religion has been manipulated since his death into being entirely about his books, or "Qur' Ron," and so begins the common story of creation with the Evil Lord Xenu. [This Is What Scientologists Actually Believe] ~~~ No offense to any scientologists. PS. You are NEVER going to get your answer, Will. Scientology is too not-taken-seriously by the majority - you're going to get South Park crap over and over again. And that's probably as accurate as it gets :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpbizkit Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Your not going get anything unbiased on this subject. Tif 360 MGC Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterxman Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 They believe splitting families apart is a good thing. Pixel sigs by me.Pixel Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyco_Reborn Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I've always considered Scientology similar to Scatology. My Last.FmLeekSpinner!!!Random Furry Dance!!!Proud to hate life, since not too long ago!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 This guy wrote a science fiction story which attracted a large group of people into worshiping the main plot of the story. The author then decided to make a group dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge, and called it "Scientology." The previous group naturally joined this group, and believed that the author's scientific pursuit was worth following, so they joined his pursuit, and began to believe that his writings were true. This man than either: a) Manipulated his followers into baking large amounts of cookies to sustain him forever, B) Tried to get his name into history books by turning his group of followers into a "religion," c) Wrote another book that depicted him becoming lord of Everything. ~ It seems he chose B), and in doing so, L. Ron Hubbard has been remembered as the father of Scientology. His religion has been manipulated since his death into being entirely about his books, or "Qur' Ron," and so begins the common story of creation with the Evil Lord Xenu. [This Is What Scientologists Actually Believe] ~~~ No offense to any scientologists. PS. You are NEVER going to get your answer, Will. Scientology is too not-taken-seriously by the majority - you're going to get South Park crap over and over again. And that's probably as accurate as it gets :? I think you're right. I don't think it is something to take seriously, but a lot of those things are a lot more interesting than things which people do take seriously. Ok, if anybody knows, what exactly is a Thetan? Is it basically a soul? ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryto Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 It's the soul of an alien which Xenu killed, I believe. They manifested themselves in human bodies, and are the cause of us doing bad things and are responsible for humanities' problems, supposedly. When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~Jonathan SwiftWebsite Updates/Corrections here. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT! Crewbie's Missions!Contributor of the Day!Thanks to artists: Destro3979, Guthix121, Shivers21, and Unoalexi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deloriagod Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Please don't bash Scientology. Although I'm sure many of you don't agree with its doctrines, it is still a religion followed by many people. You wouldn't bash Christianity or Islam, so don't do it here either. *Snicker* I was thinking the same thing. Internet Marketing For Newbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenshinjapan Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 xenu.net That site will explain everything. YOU! ATTEND TET EVENTS! CLICK HERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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