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mage is overpowered in castle wars lol.




Why, because you're too cheap to use arrows?




how does this have to do anything with mage is overpowered in castle wars? -.-



because the barrages hit like 10000 people in one cast so you cant die (blood barrage) :wall:

well the lvl 130's cant die \<img src=/' />
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You could say that Karil's is a tanking set of armor with high damage output. It's as fast as a msb for pete's sake, it SHOULD be less accurate. The armor has good magic defense, but I think it sacrifices melee defense for that, though I'm not sure. It's good armor, but when compared to the degree of other barrows armor, it pales in comparison.
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mage is overpowered in castle wars lol.




Why, because you're too cheap to use arrows?




how does this have to do anything with mage is overpowered in castle wars? -.-



because the barrages hit like 10000 people in one cast so you cant die (blood barrage) :wall:

well the lvl 130's cant die \<img src=/' />




Then you're too low of a level. Generally, 130>n<130



If you used arrows, you could easily kill them if you were about the same level.
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the karil top is useful because it provides great mage def without being to expensive. Also it is used for godwars. For the bow its gd only for fight caves and maybe pking. The skirt and coif are useless.


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Karils is the worst barrow amour get over its range bonus is worse than red dhide :P
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Karils is the worst barrow amour get over its range bonus is worse than red dhide :P




WRONG!



It has the range bonus of black dragonhide, Mr. Ilookeverythingupbeforeposting.
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they should really add more melee and rang def to karils :wall:
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I like Karils X bow, it is very fast and when you get over 90+ range and pot up, it is amazingly accurate. And what are you guys talking about dragon crossbows?! The rune ones are already dishing out 50's...

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they should really add more melee and rang def to karils :wall:




That I agree with. If you look at dragon and, say, torags armor the difference is huge.



If you look at black dragonhide and karils, the only difference and mage defense (and melee defense, which karils has less of).

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I like Karils X bow, it is very fast and when you get over 90+ range and pot up, it is amazingly accurate. And what are you guys talking about dragon crossbows?! The rune ones are already dishing out 50's...




lol with the specs that rarly activate and if they do activate might not even hit high. #-o
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I like Karils X bow, it is very fast and when you get over 90+ range and pot up, it is amazingly accurate. And what are you guys talking about dragon crossbows?! The rune ones are already dishing out 50's...




lol with the specs that rarly activate and if they do activate might not even hit high. #-o


Not that it matters, your dishing out 50s NON-spec, at the equivalent of level 74 melees. What's your max with a D2H? Cause that's about the best KO weapon the meleer has at his levels.
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yea when your 99 range you MIGHT be able to hit 50's without spec but if your not 99 range... forget about it.
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Keep in mind that rangers had had 70 requirement armour (black d'hide) before Barrows came out. The other two classes had 60 and 40 as their highest requirement (Dragon [60] and Mystic [40/20]) respectively. And at that time in the game Dragon armour was... a pretty price.



Karil might be bad, but to compare it to black d'hide, which shares the 70 skill requirement is wrong. To compare it accurately Karil's should be compared to either red d'hide or green d'hide.
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thats stupid because black d hide sucks pretty bad anyway.

upgrade karils ffs
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How would the stats of Karil's be if black d'hide didn't exist?



For the sake of statistical argument we'll say that black d'hide and blue d'hide didn't exist (As there was/is no 70 or 50 requirement melee or mage armour) We'll also say that red d'hide was the stuff of legend, only the elite had access to it. So for the most part, green d'hide was the tired and true armour of rangers. Then all of a sudden... KARIL!!! With it's massive defence and range bonuses it obliterates green d'hide and even soars past the legendary red d'hide.



But no. That's not the case because there IS black d'hide and it's beyond easy to get. From a statistical point of view, rangers had Barrow class armour for a looooong time. The special blows, I'll give it that, but the stats are only bad because of how good the pre-existing armour was. And Armadyl is out now, so whatever.
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Magic defence. I used it like crazy before I got armadyl. Black d hide body just doesn't cut it against an ancient mage.




Yeah. It's great mage def plus good ranged attack. Set effects are only really used for dharok, guthan, and verac tbh.
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they should make karils 80 ranged and buff the stats then because blk d hide gets absolutly raped by dds >_>
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No, they shouldn't raise Karils to 80. It is fine for what it is used for: Magic Defense.



And if you wanna reduce damage input on you, raise your defense.
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lol with the specs that rarly activate




I'd beg to differ. If it rarely activated, then it wouldn't be used as a potential KO in pvp worlds/BH. I'm not saying it activates ridiculously often like every other shot, but it activates often enough to put it to practical use.



and if they do activate might not even hit high. #-o




Might not even hit that high? Go fight a dragon without a dragon anti shield or dragon breath pots. It's dragon breath might not even hit high, so you don't need those.



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I honestly think Karils set is fine. At 70 range, you have two choices, black dhide which overs great all around defence for rangers, and Karils, which loses a bit of it's melee defences so that it can specialize in magic defence. They both have a 70 RANGE REQUIREMENT, so their range attack bonus SHOULD be equal.



Now, one thing I'm not okay with is Karils special. If they managed to switch it with Torags (drain run energy) then I'd be perfectly happy, because it would be of greater use than just reducing agility level. Just my two cents.
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