howbadisbad Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 Does it matter? Really they dont. Melee is weak in comparison to magic and range. Compare the whip, probably altogether the best weapon there is in runescape. Add a few ags or sgs specs in depending on the situation and you got it. They're all incredibly expensive. 1.5m might not seem like much, but in the longrun for most people it is. Magic has ancients. Gives you an extreme upper hand in clan pking. With the ability to hit extremely hard with the ice spells, 30+ on a single target. If not 30, than atleast 28. Magic can also bind people in a spot with that or other spells. Hit accurate 20-30 with a god spell charged. Magic is also a skilled combat. Meaning it needs skill to be used. Unlike melee, pointless clicking, mage has to be used in proper situations. The best situation for melee is when you're low on hp and need to heal with an sgs spec, or say, using the KO potential of the d claws. Ranged, is already overpowered. It was very lame in RSC and now they made it great. You can hit as high as a whip with 61 ranged and a few expensive bolts as you would with 80(+/-2) strength. And as mentioned in the FIRST post, there are godstaves for magic. Overall magic is the strongest. The ability to hit extremely high, bind, and on numerous opponents obviously wins. :thumbup:holy crap magic is pwned by melee and range alike melee is most overpowered for its ability to hybrid with any armour without loss of stats and it does take skill to kill people with melee try looking up some pvp vids before you start talking about how mage is overpowered. ags and dds are overpowered :wall: also vesta is uber overpowred lol Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Does it matter? Really they dont. Melee is weak in comparison to magic and range. Compare the whip, probably altogether the best weapon there is in runescape. Add a few ags or sgs specs in depending on the situation and you got it. They're all incredibly expensive. 1.5m might not seem like much, but in the longrun for most people it is. Magic has ancients. Gives you an extreme upper hand in clan pking. With the ability to hit extremely hard with the ice spells, 30+ on a single target. If not 30, than atleast 28. Magic can also bind people in a spot with that or other spells. Hit accurate 20-30 with a god spell charged. Magic is also a skilled combat. Meaning it needs skill to be used. Unlike melee, pointless clicking, mage has to be used in proper situations. The best situation for melee is when you're low on hp and need to heal with an sgs spec, or say, using the KO potential of the d claws. Ranged, is already overpowered. It was very lame in RSC and now they made it great. You can hit as high as a whip with 61 ranged and a few expensive bolts as you would with 80(+/-2) strength. And as mentioned in the FIRST post, there are godstaves for magic. Overall magic is the strongest. The ability to hit extremely high, bind, and on numerous opponents obviously wins. :thumbup:holy crap magic is pwned by melee and range alike melee is most overpowered for its ability to hybrid with any armour without loss of stats and it does take skill to kill people with melee try looking up some pvp vids before you start talking about how mage is overpowered. ags and dds are overpowered :wall: also vesta is uber overpowred lol What are you talking about? I just demonstrated, several times, how magic is far superior to melee, especially when fighting off more then one person. AGS and dd++ are completely inaccurate. The majority of the time they both hit 0-0 on me, and it's rare that I get hit more then once in 4 dd++ specs. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Magic hasnt got anywhere close to 100 in magic attack cause if it is, watch out. Melee will always fail - its just used more cause its 3 skills in one, and cause rangers get the living [cabbage] beaten out of them cause they cant bind like magers. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homowz Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 i'm not gonna repeat everything u guys said, but its true that mage/range far overpower a melee. they just barrage/blitz and then use d bow spec or rune cbow with dragbolts and ur gone, u can even run away. melee has to be right next to it and if you fight some1 and the noob runs away a mager just freezes or even binds him while a melee wastes his time running behind him and mostly losing his prey... also, and i dont thing some1 has said this allready, melee have to train 2 skills to be a little tread to any1 and mostly even def is required to not get owned. rangers/magers only train 1 skill (2 if they wanna combo) and stay slow enough cb to keep their def low... also jagex has to keep bringing melee updates in group because it simply is the most liked skill (since it doesnt cost 2 much and goes quite fast) and otherwise they would lose their member. and since i lasted checked jagex is still a companie that has to make profit to stay alive [hide]visage drop 11/01/09goals:all skills 70+ (completed)all skills 80+98% Of teenagers surround their minds with rap music, if you're part of the 2% that stayed with rock, put this in your signature, ROCK IS BETTER![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 and once he gets out of bind this happens gf mage :twss: Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 you died Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 you died Stop double posting. And for the record, 1 d claws spec isn't going to kill a mage. Max of 84, and then the meleer is frozen again while the mage heals up at his expense. Side note: A good ancient wouldn't get hit by running just out of the meleer's range before freezing him again. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 d claws hit to fast for you to heal see for yourself also note the very overpowered vesta and statius >_> Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 d claws hit to fast for you to heal see for yourself also note the very overpowered vesta and statius >_> Javelin is also overpowered. And I didn't see any 99 hits with d claws. I've also loaned them for 10+ hours, and I haven't hit above 99 in a single hit yet. Therefore I have been foced to conclude that they will not kill me, even if the meleer is lucky enough to hit me. Which most meleers aren't, as good dodging keeps them from getting close enough. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 exept the d claws can actually hit from a distance its you hit from afar then warp foward next to them dds and claws deserve ner[bleep]e :shock: range max hits magic bow rune dart max karils c bow max crystal bow max onyx bolts max dragonstone bolts max dark bow max in my opinion only the d bow and dragon bolts come anywhere near what melee hits with most weapons Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 D claws can't hit from a distance, they just appear that way due to animations. A skilled mager can easily avoid a meleer and at most get hit once per 20 second freeze and heals. As there is currently no weapon that hits 99 damage in 1 shot, it is impossible to KO the mager. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtw700 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 omfg all the new weapons and armour are for melee just to name a few -godswords -dragon claws -dragon platebody why doesnt range have godbows? why doesnt mage have godstaves? wtf! no wonder melee is what the overwhelming majority of players use in combat. there are 2 other skills that could use updates you know! HURR DURR rs2 used to be a mages game, then a rangers game, now melee our time has come and your time has passed, get out the way while i grind 4 cash =mtw=i smoke and i drink does that make me mature Not mature, it just makes you cool..::RollinOn XTC::.Total::1953Combat::131.1/123.1 dont take it personal... im old-school-as-f**k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I dont think anyones going to care bout this anymore cause anyone with a brain knows magic is literally the strongest, statistic wise. I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Tam_Tan_Tien Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 [hide=Quote]omfg all the new weapons and armour are for melee just to name a few -godswords -dragon claws -dragon platebody why doesnt range have godbows? why doesnt mage have godstaves? wtf! no wonder melee is what the overwhelming majority of players use in combat. there are 2 other skills that could use updates you know! HURR DURR rs2 used to be a mages game, then a rangers game, now melee our time has come and your time has passed, get out the way while i grind 4 cash[/hide] that gave me a laugh :twss: But seriously if the other combat skills were any more powered up then they would be uber overpowered. Think of the misamic spells, they reduce your attack speed by 50%, that would totally destroy a person using a godsword. O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O OO O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 omfg all the new weapons and armour are for melee just to name a few -godswords -dragon claws -dragon platebody why doesnt range have godbows? why doesnt mage have godstaves? wtf! no wonder melee is what the overwhelming majority of players use in combat. there are 2 other skills that could use updates you know! HURR DURR rs2 used to be a mages game, then a rangers game, now melee our time has come and your time has passed, get out the way while i grind 4 cash Not a chance. The argument could be made that melee has gotten more updates to make up for it being weaker. Besides, I just proved how magic is stronger; abandoning a logical argument and going 'HURR DURR MELEE GOT MORE UPDATES IT PWONS MAGE' is just stupid. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogwaga Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Jagex does favor melee in the fact that they do get more updates if thats what your ranting about, but in terms of power Melee and Range are pretty much equal. I don't agree with anyone who says that mage is just as powerful if used correctly. And they can beat meleers if they stay out of their melee range so they can refreeze them without taking damage. But mages get into real trouble ones their opponents put on some Karils. And what about when they fight Range? Then their freezing doesn't do anything and they'll be hardly getting hit while they get ripped apart because of their robes. Notable Drops: 5 X Dragon Axe.......1 X D Skirt...............1 X Bandos Platebody 3 X Zerker Ring.......1 X Bandos Hilt4 X Warrior Ring......1 X Bandos Tassets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Jagex does favor melee in the fact that they do get more updates if thats what your ranting about, but in terms of power Melee and Range are pretty much equal. I don't agree with anyone who says that mage is just as powerful if used correctly. And they can beat meleers if they stay out of their melee range so they can refreeze them without taking damage. But mages get into real trouble ones their opponents put on some Karils. And what about when they fight Range? Then their freezing doesn't do anything and they'll be hardly getting hit while they get ripped apart because of their robes. Meleer pulls karils, they pull out a whip and own them with higher defence and double the hitting speed. Rangers are tricker; it requires torags top\bottom and whip, but you will then have the advantage. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_klutz Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Meleer pulls karils, they pull out a whip and own them with higher defence and double the hitting speed. Rangers are tricker; it requires torags top\bottom and whip, but you will then have the advantage. Your no longer maging if you pull out a whip... Or am I misunderstanding you? If you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature. ^^^At least I'm not the only crazy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Meleer pulls karils, they pull out a whip and own them with higher defence and double the hitting speed. Rangers are tricker; it requires torags top\bottom and whip, but you will then have the advantage. Your no longer maging if you pull out a whip... Or am I misunderstanding you? Nope, but your no longer a pure melee if you pull out ranger armor. I have never seen people fight together with 'pure' combat classes, so a mage or melee only situation is hypothetical and therefore has no bearing on real in-game activity. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_klutz Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I define your class by the weapon/attack you are using. If you are holding a whip and using it you are meleeing. Please use magic and beat someone using melee. Not use magic and then take out your GS/Whip and kill them with that. If you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature. ^^^At least I'm not the only crazy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 i just saw a dude in rune 2 hit a dude with an hp cape with a status warhammer in a pvp world today.., lol owned \ Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I define your class by the weapon/attack you are using. If you are holding a whip and using it you are meleeing. Please use magic and beat someone using melee. Not use magic and then take out your GS/Whip and kill them with that. I'm sorry to hear that. I define it by both weapon and armor, as melee is the only weapon-exclusive class. i just saw a dude in rune 2 hit a dude with an hp cape with a status warhammer in a pvp world today.., lol owned \ I saw a dude in void 1 hit a dude with an hp cape with a dark bow and ice blitz in a pvp world today.., Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayOxide Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 ^Thats 2 hits. :? I dont need a siggy no moar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homowz Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 it are 2hits but u can see it as 1, u never have the time to eat or something when a dbow spec comes at u... anyway this is allready the 2nd treat where some1 is compaining about melee is better etc. can you guys maybe come togetter for a cup of tea and talk about all ur problems that would be nice, u can evn become friends anyway no skill is favored above an other, as the last 70 posts has shown, u need all of them to be of any danger or at least 2 its true mage/range might need a new update talking about new robes etc but better weapons or so, certainly not or melee wouldnt be of any use anymore and any1 not mage/range would be KOed in a couple of hits [hide]visage drop 11/01/09goals:all skills 70+ (completed)all skills 80+98% Of teenagers surround their minds with rap music, if you're part of the 2% that stayed with rock, put this in your signature, ROCK IS BETTER![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 ^Thats 2 hits. :? They all hit at the same time, with no delay for eating. And the total damage is 120, higher then the maximum possible HP. So surving one is completely luck. From two 'weak' combat styles. That you can use at 51 combat. So yeah, a level 51 that can easily, and OFTEN, hit over 120 in a SINGLE hit. And they say melee is good at KOing. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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