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Dragon Dagger V.S. Dragon Claws


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I was wondering what you all think the better weapon is and why?



(Personally I like the Dragon dagger because it can be poisoned, the special attack can be used 4 times back to back, and the dagger can be used with a shield)
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Unless you do PVP alot the claws are not that useful. So if your killing Npc's use dds if your doing Pvp use d claws.
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Dragon Claws, fast owning and can kill lv 138s with the 2 specs.
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I was wondering what yall think the better weapon is and why?



(Personally I like the Dragon dagger because it can be poisoned, the special attack can be used 4 times back to back, and the dagger can be used with a shield)




Wondering what you all think*



And yeah claws definatly have my vote, I pvp a lot more than pvm....
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Unless you do PVP alot the claws are not that useful. So if your killing Npc's use dds if your doing Pvp use d claws.


Dragon claw is way better to ko than dragon dagger since it do 4 consecutive attacks.



However, a dragon dagger is way better for PvM since it can both poison the monster and is more accurate.



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Dragon Claws, fast owning and can kill lv 138s with the 2 specs.




Not like a dragon dagger can't :P.



Max is 43x2, so 43*4=172, much more than enough. Not to mention it's more accurate, poisonable, and you can wear a defender.



Sure, claws are better for pvp, but they're not ALL that much better.



EDIT: actually calculated that wrong, a single hit can hit 43, so it's actually in the region of ~350.
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Dragon Claws, fast owning and can kill lv 138s with the 2 specs.




Not like a dragon dagger can't :P.



Max is 43x2, so 43*4=172, much more than enough. Not to mention it's more accurate, poisonable, and you can wear a defender.



Sure, claws are better for pvp, but they're not ALL that much better.



EDIT: actually calculated that wrong, a single hit can hit 43, so it's actually in the region of ~350.




Claws are much more accurate then d claws... and dds only has the ko ability after you've already damaged the other player, the d claws have that instant ko ability like ags does.

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Dragon Claws, fast owning and can kill lv 138s with the 2 specs.




Not like a dragon dagger can't :P.



Max is 43x2, so 43*4=172, much more than enough. Not to mention it's more accurate, poisonable, and you can wear a defender.



Sure, claws are better for pvp, but they're not ALL that much better.



EDIT: actually calculated that wrong, a single hit can hit 43, so it's actually in the region of ~350.




Claws are much more accurate then d claws... and dds only has the ko ability after you've already damaged the other player, the d claws have that instant ko ability like ags does.


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Dragon Claws, fast owning and can kill lv 138s with the 2 specs.




Not like a dragon dagger can't :P.



Max is 43x2, so 43*4=172, much more than enough. Not to mention it's more accurate, poisonable, and you can wear a defender.



Sure, claws are better for pvp, but they're not ALL that much better.



EDIT: actually calculated that wrong, a single hit can hit 43, so it's actually in the region of ~350.




Dragon dagger is only slightly more accurate (although I'd argue that the claw spec is more accurate, I seem to hit a lot more with it). And you have to remember, the way the claw spec works, you'll be hitting higher numbers a lot more often. 40-40 hits with a dragon dagger are very rare, but I've been hitting in the 60-80 neighborhood a lot more often than I have with the dagger.



You guys have to remember though, it's a spec weapon, so you have to carry it in addition to your whip or whatever else, which means you can't protect item it. With a lowly DDS this isn't bad, but with dragon claws currently having a street value in the millions, it's not something I think you'd be prepared to loose so lightly.

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Dats why claws are better^^





Instant ko... unlike dds it gives you no time to react and eat if necessary :P
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I don't particularly like PvP so I'm going to stick my trusty DDS. :thumbup:
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Instant ko... unlike dds it gives you no time to react and eat if necessary :P


yea i agree...for PVP tho. plus, if u want to use DDS with rune def, u have to click twice, and that can be a hassle. claws you only click once then hit F1 (or F2) and click spec bar.

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DDS for versatility, poisonability, affordability, and replaceability.

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Claws are much more accurate then d claws... and dds only has the ko ability after you've already damaged the other player, the d claws have that instant ko ability like ags does.




I'm guessing that you meant to type dds instead of d claws. A dragon dagger+ defender= 60 stab attack. Dragon claws= 56 slash. Not to mention the fact that barrows and bandos both have lower stab defence than slash.



D claws is better, for both PvP and PvE. Yes, four DDS specs will typically do more than two d claw specs, but you have to subtract what you would have done with a whip. Let's say that an average dds spec is 20-20, an average whip hit is 25, and an average d claw spec is 15-15-15-15. You can use the DDS 48 times an hour, and d claws 24. 48*(40-25)= 720. 24*(60-25)=840. DDS will do 720 extra damage an hour, d claws 840. And that's with a fairly conservative estimate for how much a whip can do.

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Claws are much more accurate then d claws... and dds only has the ko ability after you've already damaged the other player, the d claws have that instant ko ability like ags does.




I'm guessing that you meant to type dds instead of d claws. A dragon dagger+ defender= 60 stab attack. Dragon claws= 56 slash. Not to mention the fact that barrows and bandos both have lower stab defence than slash.



D claws is better, for both PvP and PvE. Yes, four DDS specs will typically do more than two d claw specs, but you have to subtract what you would have done with a whip. Let's say that an average dds spec is 20-20, an average whip hit is 25, and an average d claw spec is 15-15-15-15. You can use the DDS 48 times an hour, and d claws 24. 48*(40-25)= 720. 24*(60-25)=840. DDS will do 720 extra damage an hour, d claws 840. And that's with a fairly conservative estimate for how much a whip can do.




Yeah, but for Claws all you need to do is have your first hit be nice, then the rest follow. It's much harder to hit two high hits with DDS. Maybe DDS will hit more 40's more often, but I think Claws will still be doing more damage.
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Dragon Claws are better than dragon dagger x2 ,fo sho it can one hit u if lucky, been pking in them for like 2 days now.

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Unless you do PVP alot the claws are not that useful. So if your killing Npc's use dds if your doing Pvp use d claws.




I agree. But the poison is nice... :|

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The last 2 hits of D claws tend to be 7 and 6 for me, and my max in one special has been low 50, but alot of the time it's 48.

With dds I tend to hit low most of the time, if at all, but dds definatly has a chance to be more powerful, using all it's specials.



But still, with d claws, I can use them as a main weapon too, which I do anyway, with dds it's not really a great idea to do that, maybe it is, but I've never tried or really seen anyone do it. But neither are good as main weapons for pvp.



If I was a pker, I'd choose dds, mainly because I'm cheap and wouldn't want to risk more. But since I'm not, I'll choose D claws.

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I've seen people survive 2v1 while the two people were ddsing him. I have never seen anyone to survive that with dragon claws.



Don't bring up the argument that D claws have only been out for a few days, if people would team up on you with this, you are sliced, diced, scrambled and shredded. While possibly already digging a grave for you while they hack at you.
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