hunting310 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I was wondering what you all think the better weapon is and why? (Personally I like the Dragon dagger because it can be poisoned, the special attack can be used 4 times back to back, and the dagger can be used with a shield) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Unless you do PVP alot the claws are not that useful. So if your killing Npc's use dds if your doing Pvp use d claws. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salad Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dragon Claws, fast owning and can kill lv 138s with the 2 specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2quit Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I was wondering what yall think the better weapon is and why? (Personally I like the Dragon dagger because it can be poisoned, the special attack can be used 4 times back to back, and the dagger can be used with a shield) Wondering what you all think* And yeah claws definatly have my vote, I pvp a lot more than pvm.... Solo GWD'er Drops: Bandos Hilt x 1/ boots x 1 / Steam staff x 1 / Shards x 9 99 Str/ 99 Att/ 99 HP (More to come...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombing_7000 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Unless you do PVP alot the claws are not that useful. So if your killing Npc's use dds if your doing Pvp use d claws. Dragon claw is way better to ko than dragon dagger since it do 4 consecutive attacks. However, a dragon dagger is way better for PvM since it can both poison the monster and is more accurate. ~Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryto Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dragon Claws, fast owning and can kill lv 138s with the 2 specs. Not like a dragon dagger can't :P. Max is 43x2, so 43*4=172, much more than enough. Not to mention it's more accurate, poisonable, and you can wear a defender. Sure, claws are better for pvp, but they're not ALL that much better. EDIT: actually calculated that wrong, a single hit can hit 43, so it's actually in the region of ~350. When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~Jonathan SwiftWebsite Updates/Corrections here. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT! Crewbie's Missions!Contributor of the Day!Thanks to artists: Destro3979, Guthix121, Shivers21, and Unoalexi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blingkachi50 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dragon Claws, fast owning and can kill lv 138s with the 2 specs. Not like a dragon dagger can't :P. Max is 43x2, so 43*4=172, much more than enough. Not to mention it's more accurate, poisonable, and you can wear a defender. Sure, claws are better for pvp, but they're not ALL that much better. EDIT: actually calculated that wrong, a single hit can hit 43, so it's actually in the region of ~350. Claws are much more accurate then d claws... and dds only has the ko ability after you've already damaged the other player, the d claws have that instant ko ability like ags does. [blingkachi50] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dragon Claws, fast owning and can kill lv 138s with the 2 specs. Not like a dragon dagger can't :P. Max is 43x2, so 43*4=172, much more than enough. Not to mention it's more accurate, poisonable, and you can wear a defender. Sure, claws are better for pvp, but they're not ALL that much better. EDIT: actually calculated that wrong, a single hit can hit 43, so it's actually in the region of ~350. Claws are much more accurate then d claws... and dds only has the ko ability after you've already damaged the other player, the d claws have that instant ko ability like ags does. \ \ \ \ Thats one win typo right there. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peronix Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dragon Claws, fast owning and can kill lv 138s with the 2 specs. Not like a dragon dagger can't :P. Max is 43x2, so 43*4=172, much more than enough. Not to mention it's more accurate, poisonable, and you can wear a defender. Sure, claws are better for pvp, but they're not ALL that much better. EDIT: actually calculated that wrong, a single hit can hit 43, so it's actually in the region of ~350. Dragon dagger is only slightly more accurate (although I'd argue that the claw spec is more accurate, I seem to hit a lot more with it). And you have to remember, the way the claw spec works, you'll be hitting higher numbers a lot more often. 40-40 hits with a dragon dagger are very rare, but I've been hitting in the 60-80 neighborhood a lot more often than I have with the dagger. You guys have to remember though, it's a spec weapon, so you have to carry it in addition to your whip or whatever else, which means you can't protect item it. With a lowly DDS this isn't bad, but with dragon claws currently having a street value in the millions, it's not something I think you'd be prepared to loose so lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_99_Melee Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dats why claws are better^^ Instant ko... unlike dds it gives you no time to react and eat if necessary :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyPunchers Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I don't particularly like PvP so I'm going to stick my trusty DDS. :thumbup: Thanks to all those who have messaged me concerning a revamp of my Range-Slayer guide. Because of you all I will start rewriting it asap.[/color] Formerly RobinHoodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atom Smash40 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Instant ko... unlike dds it gives you no time to react and eat if necessary :P yea i agree...for PVP tho. plus, if u want to use DDS with rune def, u have to click twice, and that can be a hassle. claws you only click once then hit F1 (or F2) and click spec bar. ~ 3,072nd to 99 Mining on August 30th, 2009 ~~ 112,084th to 99 Magic on April 16th, 2011 ~~ 131,681st to 99 Crafting on March 29, 2019 ~~ 178,385th to 99 Prayer on April 2, 2019 ~~ 234,921st to 99 Defence on May 9, 2019 ~~ 173,480th to 99 Herblore on June 21, 2019 ~~ 155,160th to 99 Smithing on July 16, 2019 ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canineteeth Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 DDS for versatility, poisonability, affordability, and replaceability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamster Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Claws are much more accurate then d claws... and dds only has the ko ability after you've already damaged the other player, the d claws have that instant ko ability like ags does. I'm guessing that you meant to type dds instead of d claws. A dragon dagger+ defender= 60 stab attack. Dragon claws= 56 slash. Not to mention the fact that barrows and bandos both have lower stab defence than slash. D claws is better, for both PvP and PvE. Yes, four DDS specs will typically do more than two d claw specs, but you have to subtract what you would have done with a whip. Let's say that an average dds spec is 20-20, an average whip hit is 25, and an average d claw spec is 15-15-15-15. You can use the DDS 48 times an hour, and d claws 24. 48*(40-25)= 720. 24*(60-25)=840. DDS will do 720 extra damage an hour, d claws 840. And that's with a fairly conservative estimate for how much a whip can do. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogwaga Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Claws are much more accurate then d claws... and dds only has the ko ability after you've already damaged the other player, the d claws have that instant ko ability like ags does. I'm guessing that you meant to type dds instead of d claws. A dragon dagger+ defender= 60 stab attack. Dragon claws= 56 slash. Not to mention the fact that barrows and bandos both have lower stab defence than slash. D claws is better, for both PvP and PvE. Yes, four DDS specs will typically do more than two d claw specs, but you have to subtract what you would have done with a whip. Let's say that an average dds spec is 20-20, an average whip hit is 25, and an average d claw spec is 15-15-15-15. You can use the DDS 48 times an hour, and d claws 24. 48*(40-25)= 720. 24*(60-25)=840. DDS will do 720 extra damage an hour, d claws 840. And that's with a fairly conservative estimate for how much a whip can do. Yeah, but for Claws all you need to do is have your first hit be nice, then the rest follow. It's much harder to hit two high hits with DDS. Maybe DDS will hit more 40's more often, but I think Claws will still be doing more damage. Notable Drops: 5 X Dragon Axe.......1 X D Skirt...............1 X Bandos Platebody 3 X Zerker Ring.......1 X Bandos Hilt4 X Warrior Ring......1 X Bandos Tassets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurechaos Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 wow i wanna try them out 99 Firemaking | 99 Mage | 99 Range | 99 Hitpoints | 99 Strength | 99 Attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrass2 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dragon Claws are better than dragon dagger x2 ,fo sho it can one hit u if lucky, been pking in them for like 2 days now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooferfish Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Unless you do PVP alot the claws are not that useful. So if your killing Npc's use dds if your doing Pvp use d claws. I agree. But the poison is nice... :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 The last 2 hits of D claws tend to be 7 and 6 for me, and my max in one special has been low 50, but alot of the time it's 48. With dds I tend to hit low most of the time, if at all, but dds definatly has a chance to be more powerful, using all it's specials. But still, with d claws, I can use them as a main weapon too, which I do anyway, with dds it's not really a great idea to do that, maybe it is, but I've never tried or really seen anyone do it. But neither are good as main weapons for pvp. If I was a pker, I'd choose dds, mainly because I'm cheap and wouldn't want to risk more. But since I'm not, I'll choose D claws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharockslayer Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I've seen people survive 2v1 while the two people were ddsing him. I have never seen anyone to survive that with dragon claws. Don't bring up the argument that D claws have only been out for a few days, if people would team up on you with this, you are sliced, diced, scrambled and shredded. While possibly already digging a grave for you while they hack at you. Interrested in joining the cabbagy madness? Click here to go to our forums, and say hi ^^lol one of the biggest pvp updates of the year, and tip it is discussing granite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samittaja Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Right now, dragon claws for sure. I'm expecting the spec to get nerfed within a few weeks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Dan3HitU Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Right now, dragon claws for sure. I'm expecting the spec to get nerfed within a few weeks though. If it does, the Dagger needs to be too. [-- DYNAMIC SIGNATURES FOR RUNESCAPE 3 & OLDSCHOOL 2007 RUNESCAPE --] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brice1b3 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 if i get a pair of d claws ill use it for everything :? they own all the way to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReapMe Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 do you need to finish the quest to use the spec? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigajie Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 claws are very good for pvp and bh since they have a high quick hitting spec. dragon dagger is better for monster hunting since: a. monster gets poisoned b. higher hits (you get higher hits on dragon dagger. the number of hits is same since claws hit 4 times and it takes up 50% and dagger hits 2 times but take 25%. the dagger also from by expirience just hits higher.) c. you have wear a shield at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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