funnisam Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 first of all i would like to say that i hate randoms. this never used to be the case, as i quite enjoyed a slight minigame or puzzle to break up the tedium of training. It provided short relief that benefitted me when playing. However... now it seems to be that i get randoms almost all the time, no matter where i go. even when killing a steel dragon i still managed to get a sandwich lady. Now jagex say that randoms are meant to stop bots? who the hell bots at metal dragons? forgive me if i am wrong, but not paying attention to the screen for about a minute when killing one without prayer usually results in death. another problem is when i am banking; i went to get a new slayer task (158 fire giants), which caused me to promptly tele to varrock. i then got all my gear and pots/food ready. However jagex are determined to waste my time by giving me something known as the drill demon, who gives a pathetic amount of money for the time it takes (500gp). 500gp is nothing compared to what i could have got if i had been killing fire giants, but no. Good old jagex want to make me suffer for all my botting? seriously the randoms are getting out of hand. I dont usually complain about things, but today just made me want to tear my hair out. RANDOMS WASTE OUR TIME. time that i could spend enjoying the game perhaps? or did jagex not think about the fact that i pay them to play a game, which i barely get to play anymore because of the amount of randoms? I know topics like this have been made before, but i feel it is worth showing my malcontent to sit and do nothing about these horrible annoying time wasters for 'autoers'. unless jagex havent updated their dictionary, i would like to point out that almost all of tif do not/have not/will not bot the game, because they like it. the drill demon makes me want to: :boohoo: :boohoo: :wall: :!: :!: :?: sorry about the smiley spam. Most Difficult Quiz Rare drops; tzhaar-ket-om: 6 tzhaar-xil-ak: 4 tzhaar-xil-ek: 4 tzhaar-mej-tal: 1 Obsidian cape: 18 Dragon Plateskirt: 4 Dragon Platelegs: 7 Sq Shield left half: 1 Dragon Boots: 1 Dragon Medium Helmet: 11 Draconic Visage: 1 Zamorak Spear: 3 Steam Battlestaff: 1 Godsword Shards: 3 Bandos Chestplate: 1 Bandos Tassets: 1 Abyssal Whip: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peronix Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 sorry about the smiley spam. No you're not, otherwise you wouldn't have included it. And to say the least, "barely get to play the game anymore" is a monstrous exaggeration. Otherwise I agree, randoms are a waste of time and need to be rebalanced by updating some of them and taking others out. Which is exactly what Jagex said that they were working on a while ago; I wouldn't be surprised if they gave that to us with the christmas update or next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnisam Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 sorry about the smiley spam. No you're not, otherwise you wouldn't have included it. And to say the least, "barely get to play the game anymore" is a monstrous exaggeration. Otherwise I agree, randoms are a waste of time and need to be rebalanced by updating some of them and taking others out. Which is exactly what Jagex said that they were working on a while ago; I wouldn't be surprised if they gave that to us with the christmas update or next month. by barely get to play the game, i dont mean time wise, i mean as in i cant do some stuff otherwise i'd get even more randoms than at present. also i dont consider it spam, but some would, so i apologized to them. and hopefully they do update the randoms, or even give slightly better rewards, because the time spent doing them sometimes, far outweighs the actual reward. Most Difficult Quiz Rare drops; tzhaar-ket-om: 6 tzhaar-xil-ak: 4 tzhaar-xil-ek: 4 tzhaar-mej-tal: 1 Obsidian cape: 18 Dragon Plateskirt: 4 Dragon Platelegs: 7 Sq Shield left half: 1 Dragon Boots: 1 Dragon Medium Helmet: 11 Draconic Visage: 1 Zamorak Spear: 3 Steam Battlestaff: 1 Godsword Shards: 3 Bandos Chestplate: 1 Bandos Tassets: 1 Abyssal Whip: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 sorry about the smiley spam. No you're not, otherwise you wouldn't have included it. And to say the least, "barely get to play the game anymore" is a monstrous exaggeration. Otherwise I agree, randoms are a waste of time and need to be rebalanced by updating some of them and taking others out. Which is exactly what Jagex said that they were working on a while ago; I wouldn't be surprised if they gave that to us with the christmas update or next month. by barely get to play the game, i dont mean time wise, i mean as in i cant do some stuff otherwise i'd get even more randoms than at present. also i dont consider it spam, but some would, so i apologized to them. and hopefully they do update the randoms, or even give slightly better rewards, because the time spent doing them sometimes, far outweighs the actual reward. What? You mean that your so scared of doing stuff to cause randoms that you can 'barely get to play the game'? I get a teleporting random every 2-3 days, usually taking 30 seconds - 1 minute to complete. MOM box or talking to randoms take ~3 seconds. There ARE still autoers, especially in FTP, but Jagex could probably tone it down a bit. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnisam Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 i mean things like the maze event, mime and the drill demon, where you have to wait a bit for the animation to perform and then get teled back. i also never said autoers were gone, but do i auto at steel dragons? no. Most Difficult Quiz Rare drops; tzhaar-ket-om: 6 tzhaar-xil-ak: 4 tzhaar-xil-ek: 4 tzhaar-mej-tal: 1 Obsidian cape: 18 Dragon Plateskirt: 4 Dragon Platelegs: 7 Sq Shield left half: 1 Dragon Boots: 1 Dragon Medium Helmet: 11 Draconic Visage: 1 Zamorak Spear: 3 Steam Battlestaff: 1 Godsword Shards: 3 Bandos Chestplate: 1 Bandos Tassets: 1 Abyssal Whip: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 i mean things like the maze event, mime and the drill demon, where you have to wait a bit for the animation to perform and then get teled back. i also never said autoers were gone, but do i auto at steel dragons? no. i barely escaped sandwitch lady at metal drags but i got a lucky hit and killed it before i was teled \ i hate randoms soooo much tele randoms ftllllllll they should make it like a random every 10 hours playing or somthing lol (how the hell could you bot at metal drags?) lol. Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Agree to some extent... At least when I last played on free worlds and skilled just for fun; I got maybe 3 random events in a timespan of two hours. Not sure if it has anything to do with me being F2P, but that's pretty unacceptable. I've fortunately quit a long time ago, but still... The tasks should last 15 seconds at most and verify only a human could know the outcome (so that patterns can't be detected by bots, but by human eye only). More importantly, they should appear at longer intervals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 as i began to write this i got a random :wall: Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatballr Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I feel your pain. I am wc'in to 98.9 (about 100k from 99, don't ask why) and I realize that a lot of autoer's are woodcutting bots. On top of that I like to WC with my chat OFF. (I cannot stand being asked my levels or w/e, if you really want to know please look on the highscores) Anyway, I get about 4-9 randoms an hour. (not including nests) ents being the main time killer because I do look away from that window often. Many many many randoms, not all of them are the time consuming ones but when those do come I loath them. There have been times where I have been enjoying myself on RS and get a maze, then I just log out because I cannot be bothered with it. Apparently, my signature was to big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasscube Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The tasks should last 15 seconds at most and verify only a human could know the outcome (so that patterns can't be detected by bots, but by human eye only). More importantly, they should appear at longer intervals. Harder then what you think. If you are talking about bots, then randoms are 100% useless, if you are talking about a certain color clicker, then randoms are 90% useless. The fact that the track record for randoms are so bad (100% failure chance against bots? 90% chance failure against a scriptable color clicker?) is in my opinion proof enough that random events for the most part should be removed from the game. You have to remember a bot has everything the client has. Help drive change Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambudwiser Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 first of all i would like to say that i hate randoms. this never used to be the case, as i quite enjoyed a slight minigame or puzzle to break up the tedium of training. It provided short relief that benefitted me when playing. However... now it seems to be that i get randoms almost all the time, no matter where i go. even when killing a steel dragon i still managed to get a sandwich lady. Now jagex say that randoms are meant to stop bots? who the hell bots at metal dragons? forgive me if i am wrong, but not paying attention to the screen for about a minute when killing one without prayer usually results in death. another problem is when i am banking; i went to get a new slayer task (158 fire giants), which caused me to promptly tele to varrock. i then got all my gear and pots/food ready. However jagex are determined to waste my time by giving me something known as the drill demon, who gives a pathetic amount of money for the time it takes (500gp). 500gp is nothing compared to what i could have got if i had been killing fire giants, but no. Good old jagex want to make me suffer for all my botting? seriously the randoms are getting out of hand. I dont usually complain about things, but today just made me want to tear my hair out. RANDOMS WASTE OUR TIME. time that i could spend enjoying the game perhaps? or did jagex not think about the fact that i pay them to play a game, which i barely get to play anymore because of the amount of randoms? I know topics like this have been made before, but i feel it is worth showing my malcontent to sit and do nothing about these horrible annoying time wasters for 'autoers'. unless jagex havent updated their dictionary, i would like to point out that almost all of tif do not/have not/will not bot the game, because they like it. the drill demon makes me want to: :boohoo: :boohoo: :wall: :!: :!: :?: sorry about the smiley spam. lol i agree...u think thts bad if u ever went to brihmhaven agility place...i think u shud have...wen u get a random there it pisses me off!!!!!!!!!!!!! wen u come bak u gotta work r way bak up to the guthix damn green ligh again!!!!!!!!! i lose 250 xp for a dumb random tht gives me 80gp...half keys are ncie tho :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodkay Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Well you know, they do happen "randomly". I've been playing for a few weeks from a break now and I've had a very minimal amount. Guess it's just bad luck? ^^" Taking a Playstation 3 break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbadisbad Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 they should stop randoms at places its impossible to bot :wall: Hypocrite. You tell others to be nice then attempt to murder people. Nice going, you just failed life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDayRsDied Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Well, yes, I agree. And If Jag had just got some simple anti macroing software they wouldnt need randoms. But I suppose that just isn't "in the spirit" of the game. They wouldn't have needed to ruin Pking and Trading either. Disgruntled, Ignorant, Rude, Obnoxious, over-the-top, unreasonable Ex-PKerDrops: Abby Whips:13/ Black Mask: 38/ Dark Bow:3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Well, yes, I agree. And If Jag had just got some simple anti macroing software they wouldnt need randoms. But I suppose that just isn't "in the spirit" of the game. They wouldn't have needed to ruin Pking and Trading either. GTFO! I'm sick of you! "Jag" can't make a miracle cure that stops all bots! Oh wait, yes they did, 12/10/07... [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellis Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Well, yes, I agree. And If Jag had just got some simple anti macroing software they wouldnt need randoms. But I suppose that just isn't "in the spirit" of the game. They wouldn't have needed to ruin Pking and Trading either. GTFO! I'm sick of you! "Jag" can't make a miracle cure that stops all bots! Oh wait, yes they did, 12/10/07... Just to be fair, it didn't stop ALL bots, just the ones that did RWT. There are still occasionally bots trying to scrape by at woodcutting trees. I rarely see them though. Well, yes, I agree. And If Jag had just got some simple anti macroing software they wouldnt need randoms. But I suppose that just isn't "in the spirit" of the game. They wouldn't have needed to ruin Pking and Trading either. +1 to Cheefoo124. They were CONSTANTLY changing the game code to try to stop bots before 12/10/07. And guess what? It didn't ****-in' work! That's why they changed the wildy, because they couldn't keep on changing the code to keep the bots out! And guess what? . . . It worked! As a note to get back on topic, not all of the randoms are bad. I especially appreciate the gravedigger when I'm grinding at a monster; it gives me a chance to bank all of my herbs, seeds, rune drops, etc. so that I can return with an empty inventory again and refill. A couple days ago at Fire Giants I got one an hour, each time just before I was going to leave :thumbsup: so that I got to stay about 3 times the normal amount of time/experience at the giants because I didn't have to go bank. Wewt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddo89 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I have no sympathy for those who say they "look away from the screen". I'm aware thats how most people would do it, but the fact is, if a random gets you because you are looking away, is your fault. If you look at the screen full time, it would never happen. There are consequences for escaping utter boredom. I have no problems with randoms except they don't really stop all bots and a couple of issues: -Why do I get randoms when I just logged in? Firstly, there is no point, an autoer would still be looking at screen anyway, neglects the whole point of it. Secondly, it is annoying, bad first impression for a player. -Interaction randoms during high HP monsters training, like sandwhich lady. There is no way in hell we are going to figure out what you want and click continue and then select the right option between one turn. Templar GuardiansWhen are trying to lend something, the word to use is borrow. Not barrows, which is a mini-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geekoverlord Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Same thing happened to me! Sandwitch lady at steel dragons sucks. :evil: That could have been my visage! :wall: I agree, at least to just tone them down, or make them appear after combat. 98% Of teenagers surround their minds with rap music, if you're part of the 2% that stayed with rock, put this in your signature, ROCK IS BETTER!Runescape has policies now?First barrows drop 12/12/08 - Aharims Robeskirt FTW XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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