Skill Capes vs. Quest Skill Cape

[seeds222]

if u add up all the exp u need for the highest level in each skill it still doesnt add up to the total exp u need for just 1 99

 

therefore i think a skill cape i smore impressive

[hhankhilll]

this is my capes in order quest -> fletch -> mage -> str -> hp -> att

 

 

 

fletch came at 126 cb (lol) and quest at around 110 personally i think the lower lvl u r with quest cape the more impressive it is but all in all its still not very impressive at all. a skill cape on the other hand (besides fletch/cook/fm) is imho pretty impressive and since i got fletch as nooby as it is i havent gone back to quest once

 

 

 

and its not quest "skill" cape as much as i loved it when i got it to when i got fletch cape it is what it is and doesnt amount to a skillcape even if it takes well over 13m xp to get :D

[XS3tHzX]

Personally, I think that it depends on the skill.

 

 

 

On average, a skill cape is harder to get, and thus more respectable, than a Quest Cape. On average. But when you compare a quest cape to a Cooking/Fletching Cape, then the Quest cape is more respectable.

 

 

 

Something like RC or Herblore, a QP Cape can't stand up to that.

 

 

 

So IMO, Skill Cape > Quest Cape

[Evil Pig20]

You all seem to say quest cape is too easy, so from your point of view the fletching, cooking and theiving capes should be removed entirely?

[Evil Pig20]

I've done it - added up all the requirments of the quest with the xp and found the total :s

 

 

 

Agility 60 (273,742)

 

Attack 15 (2,411

 

Combat 85

 

Construction 50 (101,333)

 

Cooking 70 (737,627)

 

Crafting 66 (496,254)

 

Defence 65 (449,428)

 

Farming 65 (449,428)

 

Firemaking 55 (166,636)

 

Fishing 62 (333,804)

 

Fletching 53 (136,594)

 

Herblore 65 (449,428)

 

Hunter 55 (166,636)

 

Magic 75 1,210,421)

 

Mining 60 (273,742)

 

Prayer 55 (166,636)

 

Ranged 60 (273,742)

 

Runecrafting 50 (101,333)

 

Slayer 59 (247,886)

 

Smithing 69 (668,051)

 

Strength 60 (273,742)

 

Summoning 23 (6,291)

 

Theiving 63 (368,599)

 

Woodcutting 72 (899,257)

 

 

 

Total: 6,815,329

 

 

 

(Give or take a bit, I was tired and this too about 15 minutes :()

 

 

 

So just by getting the requirements your half way to a 99, I think that after doing all the quests plus getting the items you have DEFINATELY earned an achievement cape.

[XS3tHzX]

The thing that you're missing with Quest skill requirements is that you aren't considering the difficulty.

 

 

 

Getting 13M in assorted skills for quest requirements is MUCH easier than 13M xp in RC, Agility, or Slayer.

[Evil Pig20]

The thing that you're missing with Quest skill requirements is that you aren't considering the difficulty.

 

 

 

Getting 13M in assorted skills for quest requirements is MUCH easier than 13M xp in RC, Agility, or Slayer.

 

 

 

Nice you say you quoted the 3 slowest skills to level...

 

 

 

You have to take into account that it takes LONGER than many skill capes and therefore is an achievement. Also getting 13m in assorted skills would be harder than grinding at one, as you'd spend time buying new equipment and moving etc.

[fastknight20]

from the requirements posted on 20-21-921-56285814

 

I find that the total experience needed, including the 85 cmb(put the guy at 65 atk/str/def, 60 rng, 75 magic, 55 pray, 26 sum, 66 hp), is proximately 9.45m, only 2.55m short of a skill cape.

 

 

 

Personally, I believe that the quest cape is better than some, but not all. IMO Rc, slayer, agility and farming, maybe con, would be more of an accomplishment than the quest cape while the others are either easily got by grinding or bought with cash which doesn't really show anything.

[JustPokemon]

I say Quest Capes are more impressive and fun to get, yet also more expensive and takes longer. The problem with Quest Capes is that you have to do every single quest that comes out to keep your cape, meaning you wont be able to keep it in F2P. The Skill Capes are more boring and cheaper, but its still an Achievement Cape, and it still is impressive. And, you can kee pthe Skill Capes in F2P.

[mrdoctorsir]

i have to say i think quest cape is more impressive

 

the thing about a skill cape is it is -1- thing with a quest cape it is tons of things and some quests aren't exactly easy to say the least

 

Maybe some of the much harder skill capes are impressive (as mentioned slayer cb stats and agility) but in general i'd really have to say a quest cape is better

 

having said that you can't really compare the 2 capes, with all the different levels of skill capes there can be almost no definitive answer can there?

 

i say quest cape is better than skill capes unless it's slayer or cb stat capes

 

i know that's not really debating but you can't really debate something like this can you? unless you see a quest cape topping every single skill, or all skill capes topping a quest cape (and i really haven't seen to many people like that)

[Ilufyou]

I've done it - added up all the requirments of the quest with the xp and found the total :s

 

 

 

Agility 60 (273,742)

 

Attack 15 (2,411

 

Combat 85

 

Construction 50 (101,333)

 

Cooking 70 (737,627)

 

Crafting 66 (496,254)

 

Defence 65 (449,428)

 

Farming 65 (449,428)

 

Firemaking 55 (166,636)

 

Fishing 62 (333,804)

 

Fletching 53 (136,594)

 

Herblore 65 (449,428)

 

Hunter 55 (166,636)

 

Magic 75 1,210,421)

 

Mining 60 (273,742)

 

Prayer 55 (166,636)

 

Ranged 60 (273,742)

 

Runecrafting 50 (101,333)

 

Slayer 59 (247,886)

 

Smithing 69 (668,051)

 

Strength 60 (273,742)

 

Summoning 23 (6,291)

 

Theiving 63 (368,599)

 

Woodcutting 72 (899,257)

 

 

 

Total: 6,815,329

 

 

 

(Give or take a bit, I was tired and this too about 15 minutes :()

 

 

 

So just by getting the requirements your half way to a 99, I think that after doing all the quests plus getting the items you have DEFINATELY earned an achievement cape.

 

 

 

 

 

Are those the Correct Lvls :o

[Navyvet1]

I think that the Lower Level you are, the more impressive a Quest Cape is.

 

 

 

I am having a heck of a time with Summer's End Quest; I only have 81 HP, and the Beast can 1-hit me. I have to finish that, and then While Guthix Sleeps to regain my QP cape.

 

 

 

I do not have a 99 in anything else, but I'm closest in Cooking (almost 94). I could BUY the Skill, I guess, but then that detracts from the experience. Buying ANY Skill, to me, detracts from the value. But that is my personal belief...I'm sure others would disagree with me.

 

 

 

For those that have said that the QP Cape is nothing because there are guides...HELLO - Not all of us use Guides. I could also argue that there are Player Guides to help in every aspect of every Skill as well...where to chop trees closest to a bank...where to burn logs...closest fire source to cook on...easiest place to train Slayer...Best place raise Combat Skill...etc.

 

 

 

I am proud of my Quest Cape (which I keep losing every Quest, and have to try and retain!). I was proud of being able to beat MM with an overall Combat Level less than 90. I took great pride in being able to finish ME2...up until the Summer's End Quest, this was THE WORST, most AGGREVATING Quest created. Most of those knocking the QP Cape probably have never attempted this quest.

 

 

 

TBH - who really cares what someone else thinks about your QP Cape or Skill Cape. You only have to ask yourself 1 thing...did I enjoy the journey to my Cape?

 

 

 

If you can answer honestly "YES", then nothing else matters.

[HugeBrain]

skill capes have better stat bonuses.

 

 

 

quest capes require additional work as quests are added

[jatscm]

As a proud owner of a quest cape, guideless too btw, i'd have to say a quest cape is better than the COMMON skill capes such as fletching cooking thieving and woodcutting, and I'd have to say getting a quest cape is near a 99 in the amount of exp needed, i totaled it up btw, the 66 hp is wat u get after the 60 range and attack and strength being 65, which are the lowest total exp for warriors guild, needed for while guthix sleeps. Here's the total exp:

 

Attack- 65 - 449,428

 

Strength- 65 - 449,428

 

Defence- 65 - 449,428

 

Ranged- 60 - 273,742

 

Hitpoints- 66 - 540,675 - this is the exp after taking above 4 and adding together and dividing by 3

 

Magic- 75 - 1,210,421

 

Prayer- 55 - 166,636

 

Summoning- 23 - 8,740

 

Cooking- 70 - 737,627

 

Woodcutting- 72 - 899,257

 

Fletching- 53 - 136,594

 

Fishing -62 - 333,804

 

Firemaking- 55 - 166,636

 

Crafting- 66 - 496,254

 

Mining- 60 - 273,742

 

Smithing- 69 - 668,051

 

Herblore- 65 - 449,428

 

Agility -60 - 273,742

 

Thieving- 63 - 368,599

 

Slayer- 59 - 247,886

 

Farming- 65 - 449,428

 

Runecrafting- 50 - 101,333

 

Hunter- 55 - 166,636

 

Construction- 50 - 101,333

 

 

 

Total:9,414,848

 

3,615,583 exp short of a 99

 

Thats the equivalent of getting 95 in a skill, but considering the quests alone can take a month, and thats WITH guides, guideless it will obviously take longer, meaning in my oppinion it definitely is qualified as a skill cape, it also gets harder and harder to get with the release of more quests, meaning it will end up becoming rarer.

 

 

 

There is also the fact of the rewards from the quests that i can include, such as the 400k exp from WGS, but should I leave this out or add to the total?

[Atom Smash40]

quest cape doesnt count...

 

 

 

thanks for the math :

 

As a proud owner of a quest cape, guideless too btw, i'd have to say a quest cape is better than the COMMON skill capes such as fletching cooking thieving and woodcutting, and I'd have to say getting a quest cape is near a 99 in the amount of exp needed, i totaled it up btw, the 66 hp is wat u get after the 60 range and attack and strength being 65, which are the lowest total exp for warriors guild, needed for while guthix sleeps. Here's the total exp:

 

Attack- 65 - 449,428

 

Strength- 65 - 449,428

 

Defence- 65 - 449,428

 

Ranged- 60 - 273,742

 

Hitpoints- 66 - 540,675 - this is the exp after taking above 4 and adding together and dividing by 3

 

Magic- 75 - 1,210,421

 

Prayer- 55 - 166,636

 

Summoning- 23 - 8,740

 

Cooking- 70 - 737,627

 

Woodcutting- 72 - 899,257

 

Fletching- 53 - 136,594

 

Fishing -62 - 333,804

 

Firemaking- 55 - 166,636

 

Crafting- 66 - 496,254

 

Mining- 60 - 273,742

 

Smithing- 69 - 668,051

 

Herblore- 65 - 449,428

 

Agility -60 - 273,742

 

Thieving- 63 - 368,599

 

Slayer- 59 - 247,886

 

Farming- 65 - 449,428

 

Runecrafting- 50 - 101,333

 

Hunter- 55 - 166,636

 

Construction- 50 - 101,333

 

 

 

Total:9,414,848

 

3,615,583 exp short of a 99

 

Thats the equivalent of getting 95 in a skill, but considering the quests alone can take a month, and thats WITH guides, guideless it will obviously take longer, meaning in my oppinion it definitely is qualified as a skill cape, it also gets harder and harder to get with the release of more quests, meaning it will end up becoming rarer.

 

 

 

There is also the fact of the rewards from the quests that i can include, such as the 400k exp from WGS, but should I leave this out or add to the total?

 

 

 

i agree, quests take time to complete. but not a month if u do it right and easy. even without guides. remember, when WGS came out people were doing it a matter of 1-3 days, no guides. and summer's end, 8hrs roughly. no guides. true the skills for the quests take time to lvl and quests too, but that only really totals to about maybe 8 months? considering time needed to level certain skills.

 

 

 

i also agree with your "better than the more common skill capes" such as fm/fletch/str/cook/hunt. but those other skill capes take much longer to obtain. granted if u train the fast way with some skills (like brews with herb) and lose a ton of money, then those skills would be faster than the cape. but for non buyables, mining in particular. mining takes roughly 8 months to obtain, much longer if u dont have the liberty to train every day constantly. that is a real skill cape (unlike the ones u see more than obby capes).

 

 

 

quest cape i dont think count as skill capes because questing itself isnt very diffcult (plenty of ways to beat the bosses with the minimum lvls) but maybe just timeconsuming, which, in my book, makes it just another fm/fletch/cook/str cape. sure it takes much more attention, but the "easieness" kinda works against it, seeing as lvl 85s can get them, but lvl 85s cant really get 99s in certain skills that require much more time an attention. since the requirements for the cape are relatively low, those are actually pretty common average lvls, which means the average scaper can get a quest cape if they wanted, but the average scaper probably wouldnt get the mining cape if they wanted to.

[pkinyou]

Quest Cape hands down. With the QC you always have the burden of having to do the new quest that comes out. with a skill its 99 and thats it, its your forever

[pureprayer]

Quest Cape hands down. With the QC you always have the burden of having to do the new quest that comes out. with a skill its 99 and thats it, its your forever

 

until you have to get more xp to level

[Troacctid]

Quest Cape hands down. With the QC you always have the burden of having to do the new quest that comes out. with a skill its 99 and thats it, its your forever

 

until you have to get more xp to level

 

Uh...right, because Jagex is constantly upgrading the maximum level possible in a skill, no? :roll:

 

 

 

Anyway, a quest cape shows that you have done all quests. A skillcape shows that you have 99 in a particular skill. It's not as if one is "better" or "worse" than the other. It's like asking, "Which is better, being good at Castle Wars or being good at Clan Wars?"

 

 

 

None of the criteria you'd use for comparing skillcapes works when comparing the quest cape.

 

 

 

-You can't use time, because new quests are constantly increasing the time it takes to get the quest cape, so either the quest cape wins by default or it just doesn't work.

 

-You can't use rewards, because you don't need a quest cape to get all the rewards from quests. (You can skip Sheep Shearer and such and still get your barrows gloves and whatnot.) Besides that, more rewards are, again, being constantly added with new quests.

 

-You can't use popularity, because the hiscores don't say how many people have a quest cape, so you don't really know.

 

-You can't use fun, because it's subjective and not something you can debate.

 

-You could try to use skill, but if that's your criterion then the real winner is the fire cape, isn't it? If not, the quest cape is the only achievement cape that can't be attained with mindless grinding, so it would win anyway.

 

-You can't use appearance, because people's favorite colors and emotes will vary from person to person.

 

 

 

In the end, your only choice would be to say that the quest cape is the worst of all capes of achievement because it's the only one that doesn't give you a prayer bonus. :-w

[zunee_boy]

Before GWD/GE came out, don't know when exactly, I saw a level 70 something with the quest cape. THAT earned my admiration, seeing how I was cussing out that stupid Monkey Madness puzzle because I was a noob who just bought himself a DBA and couldn't afford to skip it.

 

 

 

A lot of people rag on skill capes because you can buy 99 fletching/cooking/construction/herblore/crafting, and a quite a few others. Now I see your point, those take maybe a week or two if you no-life and have the cash. Well, people that say that OBVIOUSLY DON'T THINK.

 

 

 

Cook's Assistant? Prince Ali Rescue? Hell, ALL THE F2P QUESTS! The event quests that just came out? Rag and Bone Man? Priest In Peril? What? Those don't count? They're too easy and they only make up like... 20qp? NO. They do count, and a majority of quests can be completed in under an hour. I have 170QP, and most of my quests done are either completely nooby or just require a fight.

 

 

 

[hide=Quest vs. Skill Analogy]Assume you have the stuff for 99 fletching... Now assume you have a friend named Qu357 N008 and you're both level 100 with about 50 in each stat, excluding your level 1 fletching, his level 1 herblore/summoning/runecrafting, which he boosts with his lamps after doing some quests and going to the museum. By the time Qu357 N008 gets 90QP (~1/3 all QP's) you just got 40 fletching #-o. Well, that's not fair you say. By the time our little questing friend gets all the stats for another 90QP, you've got 60-65 fletching, evened out a bit in that short time. He now does some easy quests for yet another 60QP and gets 30QP from actually difficult quests like some of the RFD parts and Ichtlarin's Little Helper. He's got 180QP and you've got 65-70 fletching. It takes him about 3 hours to do Underground Pass then about another hour to do the Elven quests and about 10 minutes to do all the cat quests. You've got about 73 fletching, still very far from that cape, and he's got 210QP. He buys some runes to boost himself from 60 mage to 70 and runs about doing all the little magical quests. He's got 225QP you've got 76 fletching. Jeez it's close. He does all the other little quests so as to get all the teleports and access to all the little nooks and crannies of RS. He's got 250QP, you now have 86 fletching because of how long he took getting those levels. He does all the other difficult quests and finishes RFD, 260ish to 89. He finishes Summer's End and Spirit of Summer, now he has over 270, all the quests but 1. You have 92 fletching because he took so long trying to finish Summer's End. 1 quest left, but you're only half way to 99. By the time he gets the levels to do it you have 94. Yep. Quests are so much harder. He does it and gets that 400k lamp and you get 95 fletching. He uses the lamp and now has about 65-70 fletching. Yep...[/hide]

 

 

 

Now, it's true, you have to continually do new quests. But since While Guthix Sleeps there have been like 2 quests. The Halloween quest doesn't take too long and the reward is incredibly beneficial to people who love that garden :D. See my 808kxp today? Yep :P. In Pyre Need takes... 45 seconds :o. Ya, I know, they'll come out with a hard quest eventually, but I mean it's not like we skillers have to deal with our xp being nerfed or needing other skills/quests to get good xp or anything, not at all. PC nerf hurt quests bad, but not us skillers and fighters...

[Lem2222]

I would say getting 99 in a skill is more impressive to me. Frankly I think the quest cape is overated.

 

Overall I think getting 99 in a skill takes more time/money and proves that your are a no-lifer. :lol:

 

But thats just my opinion.... My lousy, unimportant, useless, random, annoying comment.

 

 

 

having both a quest cape and skill cape is better than having only a skill cape/quest cape. :roll:

[zxzxzxzx99]

Quest cape wrecks everything, it's super useful, like ability to get dragon plate shards, dragon claws, bank near barrows, easier pyramid plundering, Lletya magic tree and hunter area, ability to buy dragon halberd, make bloods, make deaths, there's a lot more i could list :)

 

 

 

Quest Caper for life!(unless i quit)

[zunee_boy]

Quest cape wrecks everything, it's super useful, like ability to get dragon plate shards, dragon claws, bank near barrows, easier pyramid plundering, Lletya magic tree and hunter area, ability to buy dragon halberd, make bloods, make deaths, there's a lot more i could list :)

 

 

 

Plus there's no such thing as a skill cape....they're all called ACHIEVEMENT CAPES.

 

 

 

Quest Caper for life!(unless i quit)

 

 

 

A valid point. Quests are necessary for a good way to do skills, and skills for quests. Without regicide I wouldn't have at least 3 slayer levels. Without the Burgh bank I would've never gotten a full set of Verac's and Torag's for free ;). Well tbh I just got a Gspear drop and traded it for Vhelm and Torag's plate :P.

[Troacctid]

Assume you have the stuff for 99 fletching... Now assume you have a friend named Qu357 N008 and you're both level 100 with about 50 in each stat, excluding your level 1 fletching, his level 1 herblore/summoning/runecrafting, which he boosts with his lamps after doing some quests and going to the museum. By the time Qu357 N008 gets 90QP (~1/3 all QP's) you just got 40 fletching #-o. Well, that's not fair you say. By the time our little questing friend gets all the stats for another 90QP, you've got 60-65 fletching, evened out a bit in that short time. He now does some easy quests for yet another 60QP and gets 30QP from actually difficult quests like some of the RFD parts and Ichtlarin's Little Helper. He's got 180QP and you've got 65-70 fletching. It takes him about 3 hours to do Underground Pass then about another hour to do the Elven quests and about 10 minutes to do all the cat quests. You've got about 73 fletching, still very far from that cape, and he's got 210QP. He buys some runes to boost himself from 60 mage to 70 and runs about doing all the little magical quests. He's got 225QP you've got 76 fletching. Jeez it's close. He does all the other little quests so as to get all the teleports and access to all the little nooks and crannies of RS. He's got 250QP, you now have 86 fletching because of how long he took getting those levels. He does all the other difficult quests and finishes RFD, 260ish to 89. He finishes Summer's End and Spirit of Summer, now he has over 270, all the quests but 1. You have 92 fletching because he took so long trying to finish Summer's End. 1 quest left, but you're only half way to 99. By the time he gets the levels to do it you have 94. Yep. Quests are so much harder. He does it and gets that 400k lamp and you get 95 fletching. He uses the lamp and now has about 65-70 fletching. Yep...

 

100% imaginary. I can say that I can get 99 fishing in 100 hours, but that doesn't make it true. You're trying to judge the quest cape based on the time it takes. Fact is, the time spent on individual quests varies so widely that you can't even begin to calculate the total time you need for it. Add in that new quests are being constantly released and you really have no idea. We only have one Grandmaster so far, but just its having its own category is an obvious sign that there will be more. Our 150th is coming up next, and it wouldn't be surprising in the least if another big one was released to commemorate it, as with the 50th and 100th quests. We still haven't seen the end of several important series--you can bet it won't be easy to infiltrate Prifddinas, Arposandra, and Castle Drakan. The quest cape may have been easy at some point, but it only gets harder and harder, and it has to be constantly re-earned.

 

 

 

Quest cape wrecks everything, it's super useful, like ability to get dragon plate shards, dragon claws, bank near barrows, easier pyramid plundering, Lletya magic tree and hunter area, ability to buy dragon halberd, make bloods, make deaths, there's a lot more i could list :)

 

I agree that most quest rewards are worth getting, but those are from individual quests, not from every quest. You can skip Myths of the White Lands and Sheep Shearer and Between a Rock... and still have all the rewards you're ever likely to use. So that's not the cape itself per se, just the individual quests. What you're saying here is kind of like saying 99 slayer is useful because it lets you use broad bolts, or 99 farming is useful because it lets you plant ranarrs. Quest cape =/= Quests.

 

 

 

Plus there's no such thing as a skill cape....they're all called ACHIEVEMENT CAPES.

 

No, they are called skillcapes. Achievement capes include all skillcapes plus the quest cape; skillcapes include only those obtained from getting 99 in a skill. http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarticle.ws?article_id=2871

[Iglw]

Even if 99 in a particular skill is harder to attain than all quests completed, I'd probably still wear the quest cape.

 

 

 

It shows that I've been using my time on RS going around exploring, doing stuff, and getting the most out of the game content.

 

instead of spending hours upon hours at one place doing the same thing over and over again.

 

 

 

"Wow, cool, that guy has 99 in . I -could- try for another 99... but, hey, I could be doing something more fun like chatting with my friends or checking out that new quest/feature. The rewards might suck, but who cares, it'll be more fun than burning all those darn logs, or spending hours watching my character hit things."

 

 

 

That said, I don't usually wear either my capes, and I don't want to waste time getting another one.

 

But, hey, if that's your kind of thing, go for it. 8-)

[zxzxzxzx99]

Plus there's no such thing as a skill cape....they're all called ACHIEVEMENT CAPES.

 

No, they are called skillcapes. Achievement capes include all skillcapes plus the quest cape; skillcapes include only those obtained from getting 99 in a skill. http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarticle.ws?article_id=2871

 

 

 

oh sorry cause on the tip.it general guide's it sais achievement capes :S sorry for that