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According to RuneScape's Grand Exchange database here is the price for all four godswords:

 

1.Armadyl godsword- 63.3M.

 

2.Bandos godsword- 18.5M.

 

3.Saradomin godsword- 46.3M.

 

4.Zamorak godsword- 25.6M.

 

 

 

Now considering the four special attacks (AGS-25% more damage, BGS-10% more damage & drains your opponent's stats, SGS- restores HP and Prayer, and ZGS- freezes your opponent for 20 seconds), AGS is the least useful (IMO) because:

 

SGS is best for long term melee training, especialy when using Prayer (because you can last there longer).

 

BGS is better for pvp, since your lower your opponent's stats (and the +10% damage is always useful).

 

ZGS is better for (some) boss monsters, if using mage/range to kill them, or for running away.

 

ZGS is better for pvp, incase you're using mage/range/melee helbard on a melee'er, or for running away.

 

BGS could be better for (some) boss monsters, considering it lowers their stats (and, again, the +10% damage is nice).

 

SGS is better for pvp, could save you in hard times.

 

 

 

Most of you did not understand my argument.

 

 

 

I'm not saying AGS is lame, or that ther other godswords are way better than it, I'm talking price-wise, considering the PRICES, if you're going to SAVE UP for a godsword, don't save up for AGS, or in other words, only buy it if you can afford it, and don't mind spending the money.

 

 

 

 

 

The only place I could possibly see AGS being more useful than the others, is Pest Control, since the other specials are not of much use there, but then, I think a faster-hitting weapon is better (especialy 1 handed ones, like whips).

 

 

 

NOTE: I do not say this sword is garbage, I'm only saying using it (compared to other godsword's specials and Grand Exchange value) is not worth saving for, unless you have the money, and don't mind spending it on this sword.

 

 

 

NOTE2: All of the 'better' claims, are stated considering the swords' prices.

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Many people have already said this. Oh, and AGS is the most useful for solo PvP.

 

Not really, I think using a SGS could be more useful, for healing yourself, and adding some Prayer points.

 

BGS could be better for draining your opponent's stats.

 

ZGS could be better for running away, or fighting with mage/range/helbard.

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The reason why people like it because with PVP the +20% damage can easily KO, which is the objective. With AGS you can kill people so quickly with the special that there's no need for anything else (although most people switch the AGS simply for the KO [some use D claws now])

 

 

 

Granted, at the start of a fight BGS may be better to give you the upper hand, but given how easy it is to get away and the fact BGS just has one spec, most people generally use the AGS to stack the odds in their favour to end the fight, as opposed to start it.

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I beg to differ.

 

 

 

 

 

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I think that a weapon capable of onehitting any player is worth that price tag.

 

But with the average players stats, how often will you be able to get hits like that? :ugeek:

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I beg to differ.

 

 

 

 

 

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I think that a weapon capable of onehitting any player is worth that price tag.

 

But with the average players stats, how often will you be able to get hits like that? :ugeek:

 

 

 

This thread is no about average players stats, it is about if the ags is worth it, and Bruno has obviously proved that it is. ( and what average statted player can afford an ags anyway?)

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I beg to differ.

 

 

 

 

 

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I think that a weapon capable of onehitting any player is worth that price tag.

 

But with the average players stats, how often will you be able to get hits like that? :ugeek:

 

 

 

You don't need those amazing hits as an avarage player. Your avarage player has lower hitpoints, remember?

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For PvP, AGS has lots of KO potential, so if you don't plan on a 10 minute fight, depleting both user's food and seeing one of them teleport you'd best buy the AGS (not to say there aren't substitutes).

 

 

 

If you had a duel, with food and no pots BGS would clearly win, it's long term defence drain can make the difference of a close fight to decimation. However, the second pots are allowed, the BGS spec'ed player can defence pot and cure himself of the defence nerf. As soon as food is not allowed, the long term effect of a BGS spec is lowered and the "here and now" effect of an AGS, SGS and even ZGS takes over.

 

 

 

Not to say, ZGS spec does have uses (though you probably will have to go out of your way to make use of these uses...), SGS is godly to have in so many ways and BGS remains the welfare AGS for PvP.

 

 

 

I honestly can't talk for GS's in boss hunting, I haven't been in many teams to see how their effects stack up.

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When soloing monsters, like god wars, I'd find it better to hit the 70+ hits which i do often, then heal on something which might hit 0 and do nothing, then in terms of bossing, I've got 99 defence, Hp, And unicorn, I feel 100% confortable using that and not needing Sgs for specials, Then going onto bandos godsword, You say "BGS is better for pvp, since your lower your opponent's stats " Most pkers such as myslef will use super restores, therefore making it pointless to have bgs lowering stats, and In the terms of PvP, comparing AGS to BGS, you Mess up your one bgs spec, your not getting another, at least with ags you can do three specials in a fight

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When soloing monsters, like god wars, I'd find it better to hit the 70+ hits which i do often, then heal on something which might hit 0 and do nothing, then in terms of bossing, I've got 99 defence, Hp, And unicorn, I feel 100% confortable using that and not needing Sgs for specials, Then going onto bandos godsword, You say "BGS is better for pvp, since your lower your opponent's stats " Most pkers such as myslef will use super restores, therefore making it pointless to have bgs lowering stats, and In the terms of PvP, comparing AGS to BGS, you Mess up your one bgs spec, your not getting another, at least with ags you can do three specials in a fight

 

I'm sorry, people did not get what I was trying to say (my fault).

 

 

 

I'm saying it's better CONSIDERING THE PRICE!

 

 

 

I will also edit it, so it's more clear.

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I traded my AGS for an SGS when they were ~90m. I laugh at anyone who says I own an SGS because it's cheaper.

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i would take zgs for pvp. its much better for multi pvp since they cant run, specially if u tb. then, u can whip them and the take out d claws and spec them for the kill (d claws much cheaper than ags and can hit like 2/3s as high)

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ags underrated.

 

 

 

sgs, for training and slayer, gwd sometimes.

 

 

 

zgs only good in castle wars and gwd, awful for pking solo.

 

 

 

bandos good for its price i guess.

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If an AGS can get you 63m in proffit doing whatever with it than I guess its worth it. Personaly I would never take something like an AGS or D claws into pvp because I would presumably be attacking people and would never risk that kind of monney. I am suprissed people who use those weapons don't get pilled when people see them in use, or in single way zones at least continualy assulted. I guess its a benifit of the money risking system Jagex put in place. Still, I would kill go after someone with those weapons just to kill them, and having them lose those items would make my day (oddly enough I am generaly a very nice person).

 

 

 

Personaly I don't think its worth it, but I would still buy one if I could just to have it (but if a different one cost more I would get that one instead so -.- ). If I feel an urge to hit supper high hits, I can take a keris to kalphites and wait for its invisible spec to kick in on a good base hit (I think the keris can still outhit any other weapon if your super lucky and your opponent has enough hp, even though its only against beetles).

 

 

 

If I wanted bonus damage, I would go for the BGS. 40% of the bonus damage for about 30% of the cost seems like a good idea to me.

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If an AGS can get you 63m in proffit doing whatever with it than I guess its worth it. Personaly I would never take something like an AGS or D claws into pvp because I would presumably be attacking people and would never risk that kind of monney. I am suprissed people who use those weapons don't get pilled when people see them in use, or in single way zones at least continualy assulted. I guess its a benifit of the money risking system Jagex put in place. Still, I would kill go after someone with those weapons just to kill them, and having them lose those items would make my day (oddly enough I am generaly a very nice person).

 

 

 

Personaly I don't think its worth it, but I would still buy one if I could just to have it (but if a different one cost more I would get that one instead so -.- ). If I feel an urge to hit supper high hits, I can take a keris to kalphites and wait for its invisible spec to kick in on a good base hit (I think the keris can still outhit any other weapon if your super lucky and your opponent has enough hp, even though its only against beetles).

 

 

 

If I wanted bonus damage, I would go for the BGS. 40% of the bonus damage for about 30% of the cost seems like a good idea to me.

 

 

 

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use whip on pvp world, everyone by about now doesnt safe, if you do find a safer, call them a safernoob and move on, when you find someone who doesnt safe, piety, ags spec twice, teleport.

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The use of the AGS is and has only ever been KO potential. Until recently it was peerless in dangerous PvP, and it's still very near the top of the ladder. Are you guaranteed to make back the 63m with it? No, but are you guaranteed to make back 18m with the bgs, 25m with the zgs, or 46m with the sgs? No. One must keep in mind that everything that godswords facilitate can be done without them.

 

 

 

To give a reality check: the bandos godsword can only special once every 5 minutes. If it fails, it fails. If it succeeds, your opponent thinks to himself: I can either continue to fight with my defense at about half of its normal value, or I can run. Your opponent will probably run, or down some super defense/super restore potions and you're back where you started but without special. The bgs is also a general fail in monster hunting - even 50 defense levels off a level 500 monster (50 defense levels = 12 or 13 combat levels) is not very significant.

 

 

 

I recently purchased a sgs. It proved to be exactly as I'd known it would be all along - the healing is either not enough or completely unnecessary in almost every situation. It's a nice toy to have, and it provides a nice boost, but it is not at all life-changing and I got along perfectly fine before. I simply bought it because there was nothing else I wanted to spend the money on.

 

 

 

I'll admit the ZGS is pretty amazing in the situations where its special is relevant. :P Lots of people think it sucks, but that's because they don't know how to use it.

 

 

 

The AGS is similar. Of course it is of limited use when you take it to places where KO potential does not matter. However, it is a very powerful weapon when used properly.

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You need to have owned an AGS to appreciate it. Just an example: You cant crash an all- AGS Bandos team of 5 members if your team only has 2 AGS's. The other Godswords are just barely good enough to get by until you make the money for an AGS.

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KO potential is key for PvP. The AGS spec has by far the best KO potential of any godsword.

 

 

 

And you might as well just use Ancients instead of a ZGS.

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i have sgs, altho i could afford ags. my reasons being:

 

 

 

I love saradomin sooo much! <3:

 

Im a huge slayer, so sgs is better for me

 

Buying ags woudl wipe out all my cash, lol

 

Ags isnt worth price when bandos spec is more usefull at more things

 

 

 

personaly, i find that sgs is the best "generalsit" godsword, that is to say it does most things well.

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