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how do battlestaffs work? Are they always in stock, or do you have to buy them from GE?


They can be bought on the GE. Air battlestaves I think are the cheapest ones to alch, last time I checked anyway.

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how do battlestaffs work? Are they always in stock, or do you have to buy them from GE?


They can be bought on the GE. Air battlestaves I think are the cheapest ones to alch, last time I checked anyway.


and are they always readily available?

Like could I go buy as many as I could with the trade limit at any time?

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I don't know what the trade limit, but air, earth, water, and fire battlestaves all cost about the same and alch for the same, and there's usually a supply from the people who make them for crafting experience. So even if it turns out you can only buy them 100 at a time ( I woudn't know) you could put in 4 offers at once...

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In reply to your query about Air / Water Battlestaves availability within the Grand Exchange, the last time I checked, a few days ago, I could only buy a limited number of them. (Availability wise).



So, they may theoretically be one of the best alchs, but they aren't available in a short time span so can make it rather difficult.

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You can only get 100 ever 24/h(time is reset by Jagex, not 24 hours from when you buy).



You are not allowed to put in more offers(you can't have 6 offers for 100 staves each)





To date, I belive this is the best exp/gp ratio.

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I have an even better idea to alch that makes tONS of money! my friend tried it and he said it did! What u do is u go to the bandos general place then u kill him until he drops 'bandos hilt' then u alch the bandos hilt for 50,000 coins!!!! thst right, 50000 of them! all from 1 alch!!! and ppl say magic is expensive rofl, u can earn over 10,000,000,000 gp from 99



rate plz



On topic: Nice guide, but air\water battlestaffs lose 41 GP alch, only 14k more per hour. Assuming this method loses 15% XP per hour due to the buying and messed up invo (no mousekeyes here), your losing 15% of your time to save 14k, meaning anyone who can earn more then 93k per hour should alch battlestaffs. And even a level 70 can make much more then that at a place like green dragons ;)



Nice guide, a little too wordy for a simple idea, but it's kind of worthless (sorry).

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Zomg I do that method of bandos 222 d00d i g3t leik 1billion magik ecp a sekond man. Ra8 pl0z



You do not lose 15% exp a hour(maybe 5% TOPS). Sure, you can alch battlestaves. Too bad 100 a day eh? Check your own "method" before you rant on others.





Anyways, for people suing this, to stop the guy from wandering, talk to him, then start trading/alching. if you talk, but dont complete the convo, he will stand still staring at you. No mroe chasing around.

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I have an even better idea to alch that makes tONS of money! my friend tried it and he said it did! What u do is u go to the bandos general place then u kill him until he drops 'bandos hilt' then u alch the bandos hilt for 50,000 coins!!!! thst right, 50000 of them! all from 1 alch!!! and ppl say magic is expensive rofl, u can earn over 10,000,000,000 gp from 99



rate plz



On topic: Nice guide, but air\water battlestaffs lose 41 GP alch, only 14k more per hour. Assuming this method loses 15% XP per hour due to the buying and messed up invo (no mousekeyes here), your losing 15% of your time to save 14k, meaning anyone who can earn more then 93k per hour should alch battlestaffs. And even a level 70 can make much more then that at a place like green dragons ;)



Nice guide, a little too wordy for a simple idea, but it's kind of worthless (sorry).

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Zomg I do that method of bandos 222 d00d i g3t leik 1billion magik ecp a sekond man. Ra8 pl0z



You do not lose 15% exp a hour(maybe 5% TOPS). Sure, you can alch battlestaves. Too bad 100 a day eh? Check your own "method" before you rant on others.





Anyways, for people suing this, to stop the guy from wandering, talk to him, then start trading/alching. if you talk, but dont complete the convo, he will stand still staring at you. No mroe chasing around.


5% = Assuming 25 alchs per hour are messed up due to the 28 inventory\RL distractions, we get 30 alchs per hour lost, or 98 At 1,045 alchs per hour, that's 40 inventorys of alchs - meaning your finishing your final alch, opening up the shop, clicking buy X, waiting for the window to appear, typing "26", waiting for the rings to update, closing the shop window, navigating back to the spells tab, and starting the alch of the next item.. all in under 2 and a half seconds, less then the time of one alch. Not likely, I'd consider at least 5 seconds more likely, and probably considerably more then that if you include the time traveling to and from the shop + messups from the much more complicated procedure compared to 'press the 5 key twice every 3 seconds' of regular alching. Plus you can't do anything else in RL like watch a movie\surf the web, which virtually everyone does to stave off the boredom of alching.



Air\Water battlestaffs, rune maces, and adamant platebodys together buy for 2.4k per day and an average loss of 50 gp per alch, or 50-29 = 21k per hour of alching more then this method. The average player can easily make 450k+ per hour with Avansies; we can use that for calculations:



21/450 = .046, or 4.6% - meaning you have to be able to buy all of the rings for each inventory in under 2.5 seconds just to make it even. And even assuming you can open the store and buy all of the rings in under 1 second (physically impossible), your forcing yourself to pay 100% attention and do far more clicking\mouse moving for a grand total savings of 14k per hour.
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I have an even better idea to alch that makes tONS of money! my friend tried it and he said it did! What u do is u go to the bandos general place then u kill him until he drops 'bandos hilt' then u alch the bandos hilt for 50,000 coins!!!! thst right, 50000 of them! all from 1 alch!!! and ppl say magic is expensive rofl, u can earn over 10,000,000,000 gp from 99



rate plz



On topic: Nice guide, but air\water battlestaffs lose 41 GP alch, only 14k more per hour. Assuming this method loses 15% XP per hour due to the buying and messed up invo (no mousekeyes here), your losing 15% of your time to save 14k, meaning anyone who can earn more then 93k per hour should alch battlestaffs. And even a level 70 can make much more then that at a place like green dragons ;)



Nice guide, a little too wordy for a simple idea, but it's kind of worthless (sorry).

6/10




Zomg I do that method of bandos 222 d00d i g3t leik 1billion magik ecp a sekond man. Ra8 pl0z



You do not lose 15% exp a hour(maybe 5% TOPS). Sure, you can alch battlestaves. Too bad 100 a day eh? Check your own "method" before you rant on others.





Anyways, for people suing this, to stop the guy from wandering, talk to him, then start trading/alching. if you talk, but dont complete the convo, he will stand still staring at you. No mroe chasing around.


5% = Assuming 25 alchs per hour are messed up due to the 28 inventory\RL distractions, we get 30 alchs per hour lost, or 98 At 1,045 alchs per hour, that's 40 inventorys of alchs - meaning your finishing your final alch, opening up the shop, clicking buy X, waiting for the window to appear, typing "26", waiting for the rings to update, closing the shop window, navigating back to the spells tab, and starting the alch of the next item.. all in under 2 and a half seconds, less then the time of one alch. Not likely, I'd consider at least 5 seconds more likely, and probably considerably more then that if you include the time traveling to and from the shop + messups from the much more complicated procedure compared to 'press the 5 key twice every 3 seconds' of regular alching. Plus you can't do anything else in RL like watch a movie\surf the web, which virtually everyone does to stave off the boredom of alching.



Air\Water battlestaffs, rune maces, and adamant platebodys together buy for 2.4k per day and an average loss of 50 gp per alch, or 50-29 = 21k per hour of alching more then this method. The average player can easily make 450k+ per hour with Avansies; we can use that for calculations:



21/450 = .046, or 4.6% - meaning you have to be able to buy all of the rings for each inventory in under 2.5 seconds just to make it even. And even assuming you can open the store and buy all of the rings in under 1 second (physically impossible), your forcing yourself to pay 100% attention and do far more clicking\mouse moving for a grand total savings of 14k per hour.




Making up numbers for data has no relevance, so I'm ignoring that portion completely.



Personally I think mouse keys are stupid. If you'd rather watch a movie, go watch a movie. Any idiot can press the 5 key over and over again. This is why I despise RS2. The game is simply too easy.



Everyone is rich. Everyone can buy 99 magic in nature runes and just sit in a bank all day and alch and not worry about profit. Want to know the only way to get nature runes years ago? Thieving the nature rune chest in ardougne or TELEGRABING off an island in the deep wilderness.



I'm sorry but if you kids are that obsessed with losing a few hours for something that already takes a long [wagon] time anyway, then by all means, wait for the GE to update and alch 100 BS a day. But for the people who can't afford to lose all that money, or the ones who actually play the game to, well, play the game; this guide is for them.





and I note: that is clearly stated in the beginning of the guide.

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I have an even better idea to alch that makes tONS of money! my friend tried it and he said it did! What u do is u go to the bandos general place then u kill him until he drops 'bandos hilt' then u alch the bandos hilt for 50,000 coins!!!! thst right, 50000 of them! all from 1 alch!!! and ppl say magic is expensive rofl, u can earn over 10,000,000,000 gp from 99



rate plz



On topic: Nice guide, but air\water battlestaffs lose 41 GP alch, only 14k more per hour. Assuming this method loses 15% XP per hour due to the buying and messed up invo (no mousekeyes here), your losing 15% of your time to save 14k, meaning anyone who can earn more then 93k per hour should alch battlestaffs. And even a level 70 can make much more then that at a place like green dragons ;)



Nice guide, a little too wordy for a simple idea, but it's kind of worthless (sorry).

6/10




Zomg I do that method of bandos 222 d00d i g3t leik 1billion magik ecp a sekond man. Ra8 pl0z



You do not lose 15% exp a hour(maybe 5% TOPS). Sure, you can alch battlestaves. Too bad 100 a day eh? Check your own "method" before you rant on others.





Anyways, for people suing this, to stop the guy from wandering, talk to him, then start trading/alching. if you talk, but dont complete the convo, he will stand still staring at you. No mroe chasing around.


5% = Assuming 25 alchs per hour are messed up due to the 28 inventory\RL distractions, we get 30 alchs per hour lost, or 98 At 1,045 alchs per hour, that's 40 inventorys of alchs - meaning your finishing your final alch, opening up the shop, clicking buy X, waiting for the window to appear, typing "26", waiting for the rings to update, closing the shop window, navigating back to the spells tab, and starting the alch of the next item.. all in under 2 and a half seconds, less then the time of one alch. Not likely, I'd consider at least 5 seconds more likely, and probably considerably more then that if you include the time traveling to and from the shop + messups from the much more complicated procedure compared to 'press the 5 key twice every 3 seconds' of regular alching. Plus you can't do anything else in RL like watch a movie\surf the web, which virtually everyone does to stave off the boredom of alching.



Air\Water battlestaffs, rune maces, and adamant platebodys together buy for 2.4k per day and an average loss of 50 gp per alch, or 50-29 = 21k per hour of alching more then this method. The average player can easily make 450k+ per hour with Avansies; we can use that for calculations:



21/450 = .046, or 4.6% - meaning you have to be able to buy all of the rings for each inventory in under 2.5 seconds just to make it even. And even assuming you can open the store and buy all of the rings in under 1 second (physically impossible), your forcing yourself to pay 100% attention and do far more clicking\mouse moving for a grand total savings of 14k per hour.




Making up numbers for data has no relevance, so I'm ignoring that portion completely.



Personally I think mouse keys are stupid. If you'd rather watch a movie, go watch a movie. Any idiot can press the 5 key over and over again. This is why I despise RS2. The game is simply too easy.



Everyone is rich. Everyone can buy 99 magic in nature runes and just sit in a bank all day and alch and not worry about profit. Want to know the only way to get nature runes years ago? Thieving the nature rune chest in ardougne or TELEGRABING off an island in the deep wilderness.



I'm sorry but if you kids are that obsessed with losing a few hours for something that already takes a long [wagon] time anyway, then by all means, wait for the GE to update and alch 100 BS a day. But for the people who can't afford to lose all that money, or the ones who actually play the game to, well, play the game; this guide is for them.





and I note: that is clearly stated in the beginning of the guide.


Yes, I certainly made up the 1.1k alchs\hour and 450k profit that I used for the 4.6% calculations. And you completely ignored the 2.4k alchs per day, not 100; did you completely skip over any part that contained numbers or overly long sentances?



Your argument is basically "yeah well its better to do it the slow way cause then u have to work for it so its funner'. By that logic, shouldn't you just alch nature runes or Elysian Shields?
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Yes, I certainly made up the 1.1k alchs\hour and 450k profit that I used for the 4.6% calculations. And you completely ignored the 2.4k alchs per day, not 100; did you completely skip over any part that contained numbers or overly long sentances?



Your argument is basically "yeah well its better to do it the slow way cause then u have to work for it so its funner'. By that logic, shouldn't you just alch nature runes or Elysian Shields?


It's a bunch of "lets assume that" and "possibly" thrown together into a math equation.



I'm saying it's better to do it this way IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY. Less gp loss per spell = better for people with money restraints.



Oh, and if you're going to try to insult my intelligence, do try and spell your words correctly in the punchline.

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Yes, I certainly made up the 1.1k alchs\hour and 450k profit that I used for the 4.6% calculations. And you completely ignored the 2.4k alchs per day, not 100; did you completely skip over any part that contained numbers or overly long sentances?



Your argument is basically "yeah well its better to do it the slow way cause then u have to work for it so its funner'. By that logic, shouldn't you just alch nature runes or Elysian Shields?


It's a bunch of "lets assume that" and "possibly" thrown together into a math equation.



I'm saying it's better to do it this way IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY. Less gp loss per spell = better for people with money restraints.



Oh, and if you're going to try to insult my intelligence, do try and spell your words correctly in the punchline.

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I word it 'let's assume' for the purpose of calculations. "Let's assume" the average player can make 450k. It means I'm going to do my calculations using that number. It has nothing to do with where I got the number from. Feel free to show where I used the word possible. Your method is saving 20k per hour, at the very most - but it's being done in a way that, given time lost from moneymaking methods easily open to the average player, is actually costing them a significantly larger amount then that due toopportunity cost.
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Itsjustagame, I'm sorry, but your arguments are flawed...



Comp's numbers are correct... and for god's sake, I don't see how you can factor in fun. I don't see how buying from a shop is more or even as fun as plain alching.



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Itsjustagame, I'm sorry, but your arguments are flawed...



Comp's numbers are correct... and for god's sake, I don't see how you can factor in fun. I don't see how buying from a shop is more or even as fun as plain alching.



PS: Nobody likes spelling/grammer nitpicks.


It's called posting while luring rock lobsters :-w



A few mistakes slip through every now and then...
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Itsjustagame, I'm sorry, but your arguments are flawed...



Comp's numbers are correct... and for god's sake, I don't see how you can factor in fun. I don't see how buying from a shop is more or even as fun as plain alching.



PS: Nobody likes spelling/grammer nitpicks.




How can you state that THIS is correct:

5% = Assuming 25 alchs per hour are messed up due to the 28 inventory\RL distractions, we get 30 alchs per hour lost, or 98 At 1,045 alchs per hour, that's 40 inventorys of alchs




How can you assume how many times someone slips up? How can you use that to base further calculations off of? You can't.



Show me a place that sells an unlimited supply of battles, adamant plates, rune maces, or whatever else it is you people are so set on alching, and I'll tip my hat to you and have this guide removed.



Oh, and they better be available. Every damn second.



If you're that obsessed with the fastest xp, and clearly don't care about losing money, then why are you alching? There are a whole bunch of faster methods. I wouldn't even dream of using my own guide for leveling.



But maybe...just maybe...there's some kid who spent a whole day mining rune essence because he didn't want to buy it. He spent a whole day runecrafting that essence in to nature runes because he wanted the xp and didn't want to buy them. He then wanted to use those runes to train his magic level. And maybe...just maybe...after all that work he did at no cost to himself, he wanted to make over 200gp a ring by alching ruby rings in the lost city.



This guide is for him.

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Itsjustagame, I'm sorry, but your arguments are flawed...



Comp's numbers are correct... and for god's sake, I don't see how you can factor in fun. I don't see how buying from a shop is more or even as fun as plain alching.



PS: Nobody likes spelling/grammer nitpicks.




How can you state that THIS is correct:

5% = Assuming 25 alchs per hour are messed up due to the 28 inventory\RL distractions, we get 30 alchs per hour lost, or 98 At 1,045 alchs per hour, that's 40 inventorys of alchs




How can you assume how many times someone slips up? How can you use that to base further calculations off of? You can't.



Show me a place that sells an unlimited supply of battles, adamant plates, rune maces, or whatever else it is you people are so set on alching, and I'll tip my hat to you and have this guide removed.



Oh, and they better be available. Every damn second.



If you're that obsessed with the fastest xp, and clearly don't care about losing money, then why are you alching? There are a whole bunch of faster methods. I wouldn't even dream of using my own guide for leveling.



But maybe...just maybe...there's some kid who spent a whole day mining rune essence because he didn't want to buy it. He spent a whole day runecrafting that essence in to nature runes because he wanted the xp and didn't want to buy them. He then wanted to use those runes to train his magic level. And maybe...just maybe...after all that work he did at no cost to himself, he wanted to make over 200gp a ring by alching ruby rings in the lost city.



This guide is for him.


You will, please notice, that I redo the calculations without the messup factor towards the end, though I firmly believe that to be accurate.



Air\Water battlestaffs, rune maces, and adamant platebodys together buy for 2.4k per day

*ahem*



The kid you described would have to play over 7 hours a day to mine, craft, and alch that much. I'll expect the tip of the hat and guide removal promptly.



As per the kid you described, don't you think he'd rather get the alching done faster by spending an extra 14k, then use the time saved to make triple that? I always thought 60k > 14k.
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Not all people think the same way.



And using your numbers:



1045 alchs per hour. Sure.

203 gp gain per ring - with all "omgz datz runecrafting profitz!!" arguments aside as we've established the gains/losses are based on the item alched.



take your 1045 and work in the apparent "5% loss" for having to buy rings every time.

you get 992.75. Round it to 993 alchs/hour.

Hell I'll even do your "slip up" hypothesis and say that in that hour, I have carpal tunnel wrist spasms 93 times (not healthy) and click too early/too late. Make it an even 900.



900 alchs per hour with a 203 gp gain per ring.



Profit of - 182,700gp.



Will this only work for people who make their own runes and mine their own essence? Yes.

But we are talking about my fictional story.

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Not all people think the same way.



And using your numbers:



1045 alchs per hour. Sure.

203 gp gain per ring - with all "omgz datz runecrafting profitz!!" arguments aside as we've established the gains/losses are based on the item alched.



take your 1045 and work in the apparent "5% loss" for having to buy rings every time.

you get 992.75. Round it to 993 alchs/hour.

Hell I'll even do your "slip up" hypothesis and say that in that hour, I have carpal tunnel wrist spasms 93 times (not healthy) and click too early/too late. Make it an even 900.



900 alchs per hour with a 203 gp gain per ring.



Profit of - 182,700gp.



Will this only work for people who make their own runes and mine their own essence? Yes.

But we are talking about my fictional story.


You nicely failed to mention that while your method results in a 29 GP loss, mine results in a 50 GP loss (Or a 37 GP loss, if one is only playing for 1.5 hours per day), making the overall results:

182.7k for your method in 60 minutes

175.5k for my method in 49 minutes - 11 minutes to earn 7.2k, or 39k per hour. Can your newb make 39k per hour? Yes, he can, all he has to do is mine 300 pure ess. So your method is resulting in him having less money. Redoing it with 50 gp loss gives us:

163.8k for my method in 49 minutes - 11 minutes to earn 18.9k, or 103k per hour - 750 pure ess; even a newb can easily mine over 1k in an hour. And crafting nats is much faster money, as is a huge variety of other things he could be doing like tanning d hides\green dragons\avansies.
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You nicely failed to mention that while your method results in a 29 GP loss, mine results in a 50 GP loss (Or a 37 GP loss, if one is only playing for 1.5 hours per day), making the overall results:

182.7k for your method in 60 minutes

175.5k for my method in 49 minutes - 11 minutes to earn 7.2k, or 39k per hour. Can your newb make 39k per hour? Yes, he can, all he has to do is mine 300 pure ess. So your method is resulting in him having less money. Redoing it with 50 gp loss gives us:

163.8k for my method in 49 minutes - 11 minutes to earn 18.9k, or 103k per hour - 750 pure ess; even a newb can easily mine over 1k in an hour. And crafting nats is much faster money, as is a huge variety of other things he could be doing like tanning d hides\green dragons\avansies.


You're basing this entirely on people doing things constantly.

You're saying that the second you finish an hour of alching, you teleport to the nearest rune essence mine and immediately start slaving away. No time for a break. No time for leaving lost city and getting to rune essence. No, we simply just "insta-port."



You should probably also take in to consideration the time it takes you to buy the items you will be alching. B staffs are easy, sure. But I have a feeling getting a couple hundred rune maces/adam plates and whatever else gives small loss will take some time. While you're at grand exchange buying your items, I'm already at the lost city buying my rings with no lines and no waiting. Even if you buy 100 at a time, and hope the rest update slowly through the hour...Isn't that time spent checking the GE and withdrawing the bought items? Doesn't that compare to oh I don't know...clicking trade and Buy x? Now even if you buy all the items at once, don't you have to type in the names of the items you're buying? Doesn't that take time? What if the middle price isn't selling? What if you have to go higher? If you're going to nit-pick every second in my method, you better believe I'll do the same.



11 minutes in not much time at all. It could be because it's 1 in the morning, but I don't even know where you're getting 49 minutes from in the first place.



Do you want to know what I did in the last 11 minutes? Not a damn thing.

You don't like the guide? Don't use it.

But based on how you're responding, you alch ALL DAY EVERY DAY!

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