K112 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Ok, so this threas died, then came back to life. (Yay?) I've left my methodology below if anyone is willing to find the amount of recruits needed for this, but currently, I am not going to oversee the challenge. However: http://www.rsdrop.com/index.php This site, once its out for a while should provide a good idea of what items and higher percentages are given when the row is used. Maybe edit your first post and include the website. ^^ What he said. Use it, check it. ___________________________________ Ever wanted to be part of something big? Ever wanted to crack one of the great mysteries of Runescape? Ever wanted to contribute to the Runescape Community? Well then, ask yourself this one "simple" question: Does the Ring Of Wealth Work? :ohnoes: For many years, players have debated it's authenticity, some saying its a load of rubbish, and others swearing by it. My plan is to expose the truth once and for all, putting the fabled object in it's rightful place. My investigation will be thoroughly scientific :ugeek: This will make it useful to the everyday player and will also give me a reliable conclusion, to a certain degree of accuracy. If you would like to know the details of my investigation click below; [hide=Scientific explanation]Because this will take a large amount of processing, It is nessecary for large groups of people to take part. This gives me a large salmple to deal with. It also gives me a wide variety of monesters and drops to deal with. Lots of people = Large Salmple Large salmple = Better results[/hide] [hide=Easy explanation]I have leet haxor skillz[/hide] Essentially, the more people I have to take part, the better it is. So, what do you have to do? It's rather simple really, and it takes minimal effort on your behalf. Step 1 Get a ring of wealth. OR; don't get a ring of wealth, depending on what you plan to do. Step 2 Go hunting a monster and keep a tally of your first 100 kills, you can do this on a piece of paper with a pencil, or if your feeling really adventurous, write it in blood. Step 3 Method: DO NOT INCLUE ANY DROPS DEEMED TO BE "100% DROPS" I advise to kill on a lop population world - this allows you to enter your data in between kills, reducing the chance of an error. Step 4 Fill out this form: (All monsters to be killed in sets of 100) Monster Killed: Ring of wealth used or not: Then, make a hide tab: [hide=][/hide] And record your 100 drops. Then, please tally those drops up into an ordered system by stating "TOTAL" eg. 20 Oak planks+blue charm ... ... ... Total drops: 810 oak planks, 45 blue charms ect...... Step 5 Relax, leave the rest to me. I highly suggest doing something like Spiritual Mages, as in the God Wars Dungeon, there is a handy kill count to keep track of your kills. A special note on Aviansies (and other monsters of this manner) - Please kill all of the same level Avianseies while testing, this is annoying as some people may take your spot, but it keeps the investigation fair. RULES :arrow: You can kill ANY monster you like, just make sure it's 100 of them. :arrow: Don't interrupt your killing streak by killing something else. Eg, Killing a Saradomin Knight whilst killing Saradomin Spiritual mages. (This will also include soloing boss monsters, unless you can stay there for 100 kills) :arrow: Don't fake results :arrow: Don't include team killings GOOD LUCK! P.S. If i have missed a trick anywhere, or there is a similar investigation happening, please let me know! On a side note: The only official insight into the ring: [hide=The Official Statement]If thou consider the possessions of an enemy to be like a roulette wheel, then the 'rare' items so coveted by players are located on a second roulette wheel, that will only be spun shouldst thou roll a specific number on the first wheel. The ring of wealth affects not the number which thou may achieve upon the first wheel, but should thou gain the precise number to allow thee access to the second, the ring will make thy chances of gaining an object on that second roulette wheel all the greater. My analogy is flawed, for death is not like roulette, but I hope that thou see the truth within this.[/hide] For good faith: (All monsters to be killed in sets of 100) Monster Killed: Avinasies-Level 83 Ring of wealth used or not: RoW USED [hide=Drops (with)]1. 4 addy bars 2. 30 Water runes 3. Grimy Harrelander 4. 15 Airs 5. Silver Ore 6. 4 addy bars 7. Rune Dagger p+ 8. 11 Blood Runes 9. 9 Nature Runes 10. Nothing 11. 2 Laws 12. 12 Body Runes 13. 4 addy bars 14. 30 Water runes 15. 4 addy bars 16. 4 addy bars 17. grimy tarromin 18. grimy tarromin 19. Silver ore 20. 5x antipoison 21. Silver ore 22. Silver ore 23. Rune dagger p+ 24. Grimy Marrentil 25. 30 water runes 26. 4 addy bars 27. 4 addy bars 28. 5x antipoison 29. 4 addy bars 30. 4 addy bars 31. 11 blood runes 32. Grimy Kwuarm 33. 2 Law Runes 34. 30 water runes 35. 9 nature runes 36. 4 addy bars 37. 15 air runes 38. 15 air runes 39. 3 chaos runes 40. 15 air runes 41. Uncut sapphire 42. 5x swordfish 43. 4 addy bars 44. rune dagger p+ 45. silver ore 46. Grimy Tarromin 47. Silver ore 48. 4 addy bars 49. 15 air runes 50. 4 addy bars 51. 2 law runes 52. silver ore 53. 5x antipoison 54. Grimy harrelander 55. Nothing 56. grimy marrentil 57. 2 law runes 58. 15 air runes 59. 4 addy bars 60. 4 addy bars 61. 5 mind runes 62. 30 water runes 63. 4 addy bars 64. 4 addy bars 65. 30 water runes 66. rune dagger p+ 67. rune dagger p+ 68. grimy tarromin 69. 15 air runes 70. 5x antipoison 71. nothing 72. 4 addy bars 73. silver ore 74. 30 water runes 75. 5x antipoison 76. 30 water runes 77. rune dagger p+ 78. nothing 79. 3 chaos runes 80. 30 water runes 81. rune dagger p+ 82. 15 air runes 83. 15 air runes 84. 4 addy bars 85. 15 air runes 86. grimy guam 87. 15 air rune 88. grimy harrelander 89. 30 water runes 90. 4 addy bars 91. 5x antipoison 92. 15 air runes 93. silver ore 94. 15 air runes 95. uncut sapphire 96. grimy guam 97. rune dagger p+ 98. silver ore 99. grimy marrentil 100. 5 mind runes TOTAL: 20 drops of addy bars 2 drops of mind runes 8 rune daggers p+ 13 air rune drops 10 water rune drops 4 law rune drops 10 silver ore drops 6 antipoison drops 2 naure rune drops 3 chaos rune drops 1 body rune drop 2 blood rune drops. 1 high herb drop (kwuarm) 18 low herb drops (below kwuarm)[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconic Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'll totally help! I'll start with Tormented Wraiths, as that's what I'm killing right now and they aren't exactly Runescape's most commonly killed monster. They also don't have any "don't pick up" drops (unless you count the lesser herbs). I'll do 100 with and 100 without. [hide=Without]1. 3 addy bars+Blue Charm 2. Black PLatebody+Blue Charm 3. 80 Oak PLanks 4. Black Chainbody+Gold Charm 5. 50 Iron Ore+Gold Charm 6. Black Med Helm 7. Black Longsword+Blue Charm 8. Harrlander, Avantoe+Green Charm 9. Black Longsword 10. Black Chainbody 11-15 Disconnected, lost list. 11a. Black Patebody+Blue Charm 12a. Black Platebody 13a. Black Med Hem+Blue Charm 14a. Black Platelegs 15a. 2 Prayer Potions(3) 16. Black Longsword 17. Black Longsword+Gold Charm 18. 825 Coins 19. 15 Chaos Runes 20. Black Full Helm+Crimson Charm 21. Black Longsword 22. 342 Coins 23. 2 Prayer Potions(3) 24. Avantoe, Marrentill 25. Black Med Helm 26. Black Platebody+Crimson Charm 27. 10 Death Runes+Blue Charm 28. 10 Death Runes 29. 7 Blood Runes+Crimson Charm 30. Black Platelegs 31. Black Med Helm+Gold Charm 32. Ranarr, Guam+Blue Charm 33. 542 Coins 34. 50 Iron Ore 35. Black Longsword 36. 314 Coins+Crimson Charm 37. Black Platebody+Gold Charm 38. 50 Iron Ore 39. 10 Death Runes+Green Charm 40. 3 addy bars 41. 5 Big Bones (plus genie lamp : ) 42. 158 Coins 43. Black Med Helm+Crimson Charm 44. Black PLatebody+Crimson Charm 45. 5 Big Bones 46. 80 Oak Planks+Green Charm 47. 5 Big Bones+Crimson Charm 48. Black Chainbody 49. 342 Coins+Blue Charm 50. Black Longsword+Bue Charm[/hide] When you go feather dragon god, you never go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racheya Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 :o Nice idea. I'll give it a shot later. :thumbsup: I have a slayer task of over 100 pyrefiends to do so I'll start with that. I edit for the [Tip.It Times]. I rarely write in [My Blog]. I am an [Ex-Moderator]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K112 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'll totally help! I'll start with Tormented Wraiths, as that's what I'm killing right now and they aren't exactly Runescape's most commonly killed monster. They also don't have any "don't pick up" drops (unless you count the lesser herbs). I'll do 100 with and 100 without. Please keep a tally of your drops somewhere else, as it'll make this all very messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterben92 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Right, why have an experiment if there has already been an official statement that it does increase ones chance of getting more expensive items? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconic Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Please keep a tally of your drops somewhere else, as it'll make this all very messy. Even if it's under a hide tab? When you go feather dragon god, you never go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K112 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Right, why have an experiment if there has already been an official statement that it does increase ones chance of getting more expensive items? Because thats not what the statement says :?: It basicly states that using the ring of wealth increases the chance of getting a rarer drop, my investigation is to work out by what degree this is. If you want a simplistic term of the roulette wheel ananolgy; Imagine every monster has two roulette wheels of all their drops, with the rarer drops being on that second wheel. Now, when you kill the monster, the first wheel spins, and if your lucky, on that wheel there is a slot to spin the secoond wheel and get a "Rare" drop. Wearign the ring of wealth increases the chance of getting the chance to spin the second wheel. -Apparently EDIT: Please keep a tally of your drops somewhere else, as it'll make this all very messy. Even if it's under a hide tab? Fine, go for it then. But Lablel It!! And your adding it up / getting a PC for it : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salad Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Totally going to help :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psvstef Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 can't wait to see the results : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33smokey Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 tbh i dont think a 100 kills is enough but none the less i'll be happy to help, i'll do spiritual mages with wealth and edit this post after edit: my internet just cut out whilst doing it so i missed out 3 of the drops :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davix12 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'll help : Barrows drops: 2 Dharok Helms, 1 Karil top, 1 Verac helm, 2 Guthan helm, 1 Karil skirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior5024 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 This is the third or fourth thread I've seen in my four years of playing, with the exact same concept and plan. So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 This is the third or fourth thread I've seen in my four years of playing, with the exact same concept and plan. Correct. Follow me on Twitter!FORGET NOT THE CHICKEN.I have no intrest in helping "keyers" farm xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonpost Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I may be wrong...but... You said shout "PC" and get the trade value? I'm pretty sure that the trade value changes. I believe you should prefer the items over the trade value. Runescape Name: "unbug07"Expand your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodAngel Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 To be honest I think you need to make more than 100 kills to draw a decent conclusion, it is too small a number to see a significant difference. For example while wearing the RoW you could fairly consistently get items worth say 500gp however when not wearing the RoW by chance you could get one or two drops of an item worth 15k which would mess with the results. Even calculating averages wouldn't show you too much of a difference so you might want to up the number of kills. Your choice though. Good luck : "Unfortunately, the real world isn't the same as a fairy tale." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian5kamikaze Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 This is the third or fourth thread I've seen in my four years of playing, with the exact same concept and plan. Yep, yet every few months after a thread on this has died somebody will make a new one on it. 100 monsters is way too little by the way. Quit. PM me if you play The Conduit to exchange friend codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_99_Melee Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Old thread don't work... Waste of time it's all random Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Right, why have an experiment if there has already been an official statement that it does increase ones chance of getting more expensive items? The topic poster has taken a job that takes alot hard work and that many are interested in the results, and you reply by commenting like that? Behave please. Old thread don't work... Waste of time it's all random If it's a waste, don't comment it/read it...i suggest avoiding it. OT: I will try to help if i can, but i am very excited over the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myweponsg00d Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Your system doesn't really make sense. The "total wealth gained" might not be the best way to approach this. Maybe you could look at that data in addition, but I think the best thing to do would be to have an actual tally of drop percentages with the RoW and without the RoW. For example: Monster A without RoW: 28 herbs 17 mith scimitars 8 fire rune drops 7 rune chains 2 rune scimitars Monster A with RoW: 19 herbs 12 mith scimitars 11 fire rune drops 9 rune chains 3 rune scims Get my drift? Then we can make an actual estimate at the percentages and how they change from RoW to no RoW. I also think that 100 monsters sounds like a good enough number to me. The point is to get 100s of submissions each with 100 drops and I think that if we could get a few people working at this, we would start to see a fairly accurate pattern. Plus, 100 monsters is not that many and will encourage average people to actually help gather info. Definitely wait awhile before coming to any conclusions though. This topic comes up every now and then, and we all dismiss it as something that we will simply never know. But...honestly, this time it doesn't seem like such a bad idea. As long as you are able to keep the thread up to date. : ;) I'll probably work on submitting some data soon. Need assistance in any of these skills? PM me in game, my private chat is always ON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champion Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Interesting idea. I'm F2P so this doesn't really affect me, but I'll be sure to see the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliboli1992 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i'll try and help out, but i;m not on much, interested in the results [spoiler=Sig] I like to think of the Dark Bow like a Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) - you get one shot and then you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirTommy2005 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 You guys want to see dramatic change in drops with the RoL? Get 200 Aviansie kills with and w/o RoL, you'll see it does work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 The ring of wealth increases the chance of getting a rare drop when you kill a monster. I rest my case. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer_Jesse Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 ill be sure to do this when i do my spirit mages task. :thumbup: [hide=Siggy credits]The Awesome, Epic, Amazing, S3xah A-10 Sig By Unolexi! I wub u Uno!InsanityV2 Did the Franz Ferdinand Sig.Killerwatt is responsible for the Arctic Monkeys sig.Pat_61 did the B-2 sig and the raptor sig.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon246665 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I didn't keep an actual tally of my drops while killing zamorak warriors but while wearing the ring of wealth I noticed I was getting lots of rune daggers and rune scimitars but when I came later I got very few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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