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Ha, I used to be just like those pures. Until I started doing things other than pk in this game. I've since realized what a useful skill defense is to have.
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Allthough pures are rubbish, it's not abuse at all. Some people just decide to not train a certain skill (and whine afterwards, nonetheless). How is that abuse?


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Def nubs, str nubs, food nubs etc are all just names people use to hurl abuse. Don't like it? Stay away from PvP, BH etc.



As a 1 def, 1 pray pure, I have been called a def nub too many times to count - yet I have 1 def!!!



I kill rune wearers the same way as other pures, although with less success, but a lot more impressive none-the-less. Hitting 14-24 on rune is a lot of fun - which is why we make pures in the first place. We make them to pk with - not to do quests, train farming, or solo Bandos. When a level 60 main enters the PvP, or BH arena they ought to be aware that they are now in the realm, and domain of pures - they are extremely vulnerable with their low hitpoints and inability to KO.



Not all pures are name callers, just like not all mains are either. Don't lump us normal players in with the name calling bunch just because we train differently than you do.

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I think that you should ignore them. An idiot's world is not ruled by logic like mine. Anyways, I have high-ish defense, I try to keep them balanced though. With my defence I get more money than str noobs (At PvM) because I don't even use food. I stand there with tons of zeros on me, whilst they are taking 20's. It's easier/faster money not to spend money to make money. :P

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Classic stuck up pure response.




Don't let the pure noob get to you. Just because you could easily KO him, he hates you. So just challenge him/her to a duel and take care of it right then. Shuts them up every single time. (Some even log or run away before we fight. ^_^)

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Classic stuck up pure response.




Don't let the pure noob get to you. Just because you could easily KO him, he hates you. So just challenge him/her to a duel and take care of it right then. Shuts them up every single time. (Some even log or run away before we fight. ^_^)




You are just as bad if not worse that the people the topic author wrote about. "Pure noob... main can easily KO them..." etc - this is equally as impressive as people calling me a def nub, or pures calling you one.



Mains do NOT have KO potential - I repeat - DO NOT. They have defence which they hope will see them eat long enough to last a fight until everyone has eaten all food and wear their opponant down through shear eating skills.



A main my level (60) cannot hit 25's with a R2H, nor hit 14's with addy arrows. I happily accept all fights/duels with player of similar combat level as me. I would go 5 levels higher if need be, but after that its too much difference. Likewise I would not expect someone 5 levels lower than me to stand up to a beating they will surely get.



Pures do not train on monsters that hit 20's. You know very little about how pures train their skills - so don't pretend you do. They train at a slower rate, gain less gp, to become better pkers. They do not want to buy godly armour, or expensive garb -unless it provides them with better attacking stats in battle. We do not lust for gold, we lust for blood on the battlefield. Learn that, and you may begin to see what makes a pure tick.

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I hate people who whine just as much as you do.



Nevertheless i don't hate pures any more than i hate normal players, being a pure dosent make you a tool, its just a great deal of tools are pures.
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On a more serious note, In game I tend to suffer alot more verbal abuse from people saying things like 'pur nub' 'str nub' as opposed to how much verbal abuse I give out. Nine times out of ten I say things like defence newb in retaliation to someone calling me a pure noob (most common insult I receive), not because I just feel like insulting them.



You get mains who don't understand pures constantly saying things like 'pures are useless' 'pures are rubbish' etc. If you think so then keep your opinions to yourself; since the opposite is obviously true since pures still exist.




Not your fault that you abuse the combat system? Ok.




It's not abuse. It's manipulation.



Mains cry about it so often you'd think they'd have an appropiate definition of it.


Look at the sad pure trying to defend his abuse of the combat system.




Abuse? We take a negative (no defence) for bonuses (More offence). It's a pretty even sacrifice. If we magically had the same defence bonuses as 99 defence then yes, that would be abuse. :roll:



Classic stuck up pure response.




Don't let the pure noob get to you. Just because you could easily KO him, he hates you. So just challenge him/her to a duel and take care of it right then. Shuts them up every single time. (Some even log or run away before we fight. ^_^)




Yeah well don't make me get my main :lol: .
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Yea its not a single sided argument.



Mains keep dissing pures about being useless, neglecting there defense, cheating the combat system, being noob, saying pures aren't useful for anything etc.



Pures retaliate by saying mains are stupid, useless, noob, etc.



Until people learn to not care what other people do to there accounts, its never going to stop, weather you win or lose a fight, doesn't mean you have to complain about it.
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i agree, it does get quite annoying (especially at the hot spots like rock crabs) but for the most part, you can pretty much put any insult as far as yelling "HAHA "insert skill here" noob! this goes for cooking, fletching, or any skill many deem "easy"

it sucks, i know -.-

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As a 1 def, 1 pray pure, I have been called a def nub too many times to count - yet I have 1 def!!!




first off you are a defense noob stupid

defense noob aka a a noob at defense

any lvl1 skill=noob

therefore 1def=defnoob :thumbsup:

also you'll get called a def noob only if you are wearing iron and your opponent hits multiple 0s with addy arrows or rune schim... (i got called a def noob by a mage before?)
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Well I'm a pure and call those guys in rune in non-members a def noob all the time. But that's just because they're so annoying, I'm only 76 combat... So when some random nub who has never been to pvp comes to these worlds and he's like 80+ combat, he'll be harrasing me all the time. So they waste my food, jump on me in the middle of a fight. They're just so annoying and when I try to range them back, with 99 ranged and 44 prayer I can't even scratch them. So they feel uber leet and think omg i pwnzor 99 range@@@... And if you manage to hit them with a few decent hits they'll eat at half hitpoints. Just leave me and fight your own kind so you can waste an entire inventory of food and run after like 20 minutes of hitting a lot of 0s and nobody ends up with a kill.




Get 40 defence and wear a green d'hide body for 17 ranged attack ;)

Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall:


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As a 1 def, 1 pray pure, I have been called a def nub too many times to count - yet I have 1 def!!!




first off you are a defense noob stupid

defense noob aka a a noob at defense

any lvl1 skill=noob

therefore 1def=defnoob :thumbsup:

also you'll get called a def noob only if you are wearing iron and your opponent hits multiple 0s with addy arrows or rune schim... (i got called a def noob by a mage before?)




Lol you R-tard.



Defence noob = Relying on defence.
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Alright, that's enough arguing, you're better than that.

"Defence noob" seems to generally be an "insult" from pure to non-pure/tank/whatzit.



Part of the point of the game is that you don't have to train everything.



Though I think a lot of it is some people that create pures without fully knowing what they're doing. Say, they see their favorite minimal defence PK'er and think, "I can do dat!!1!", create a pure, and wonder why they don't constantly get kills the minute they set foot in BH, and don't hit well on armor.

I think I would like pures that know what they are doing. I didn't like the ones that made pures and think that made them 0\/\/n4g3 incarnate. Those are the ones that really give pures their reputation...



That said, I almost have a pure-type build, or some strange perversion of it. Higher attack, mage, and range than defence and strength. Unfortunately, balanced str and defence. At the very least I can appreciate limiting stats in favor of others.

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As a 1 def, 1 pray pure, I have been called a def nub too many times to count - yet I have 1 def!!!




first off you are a defense noob stupid

defense noob aka a a noob at defense

any lvl1 skill=noob

therefore 1def=defnoob :thumbsup:

also you'll get called a def noob only if you are wearing iron and your opponent hits multiple 0s with addy arrows or rune schim... (i got called a def noob by a mage before?)




Lol you R-tard.



Defence noob = Relying on defence.




good one :ohnoes: :ohnoes:

technically speaking as i was dip[cabbage]

being a noob at def=def noob

i know def noob=rely on def im not stupid
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Those people are usually just proud that they have managed to create a pure account with some nice stats for pking, although creating a pure is kind of difficult, it generally takes much less time than working on a balanced fighter and completely fails in anything besides one on ones with someone of equal combat level. (Unless it's a range pure, they kick [wagon] and are surprisingly easy to create, but range is one of those skills that requires little more than patience to achieve 99)



Just remember, the sheer fact that they are a strength pure means that they have effectivly limited themselves from the majority of the game (no defense) and they are willing to insult you on the basis of training defense? A little stupid, eh.



Just remember that all pures are, doesn't matter what kind, are eventually surpassed by their balanced counterparts.

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As a 1 def, 1 pray pure, I have been called a def nub too many times to count - yet I have 1 def!!!




first off you are a defense noob stupid

defense noob aka a a noob at defense

any lvl1 skill=noob

therefore 1def=defnoob :thumbsup:

also you'll get called a def noob only if you are wearing iron and your opponent hits multiple 0s with addy arrows or rune schim... (i got called a def noob by a mage before?)




Lol you R-tard.



Defence noob = Relying on defence.




good one :ohnoes: :ohnoes:

technically speaking as i was [cabbage]

being a noob at def=def noob

i know def noob=rely on def im not stupid




Lol. You called him a defence noob because of his lack of defence and then proceded to elaborate on your rather messed up logic. I simply corrected you. Defence = Noob. So 'being noob' at defence is having a high level in it. Having 1 defence = Pro. But try to take the things I say in this thread with a grain of salt; as it is rather fun living up to the stereotypical view of pures.



Just remember that all pures are, doesn't matter what kind, are eventually surpassed by their balanced counterparts.




I guess you mean when mains are at a higher level than pures, so I agree. Obviously a level 126 balanced account will kill a level 94 pure account.



But a level 94 pure account (99 1 99 99 99 44 99) will destroy a level 94 balanced account.
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But a level 94 pure account (99 1 99 99 99 44 99) will destroy a level 94 balanced account.


That's exactly the point of pures :thumbup: .

I recall reading in the Debate Club area a while ago, someone saying something along the lines of ''you have to have something unique about your stats if you want to pk''. ''Balanced looks good on paper'', but just doesn't work in PvP where your combat level matters. That's why BH was all people at the highest possible combat in the lowest crater, and when I ran a thread about it (also debate club, in early 2008), fixing the level system was almost a unanimous improvement, and the current (?) level system was a nearly unanimous complaint.

The quoted comments are horribly paraphrased (It was from when you could PK in the wilderness, don't blame me for forgetting :lol: ), but the meaning should still be there. I think the person I'm quoting is still here... Compfreak847?

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But a level 94 pure account (99 1 99 99 99 44 99) will destroy a level 94 balanced account.


That's exactly the point of pures :thumbup: .

I recall reading in the Debate Club area a while ago, someone saying something along the lines of ''you have to have something unique about your stats if you want to pk''. ''Balanced looks good on paper'', but just doesn't work in PvP where your combat level matters. That's why BH was all people at the highest possible combat in the lowest crater, and when I ran a thread about it (also debate club, in early 2008), fixing the level system was almost a unanimous improvement, and the current (?) level system was a nearly unanimous complaint.

The quoted comments are horribly paraphrased (It was from when you could PK in the wilderness, don't blame me for forgetting :lol: ), but the meaning should still be there. I think the person I'm quoting is still here... Compfreak847?




It's not just stats that count but your level of skill in pking. A level 94 pure would obviously have more experience than the level 94 main. I would devastate a 'newb' even if he had a maxed lvl 94 pure and I had a 70 70 70 main, because I KNOW how to pk.



It's not a simple case of "You need something unique about your stats" at all. It's hard as hell to pk on a high level pure ESPECIALLY when your opponents have barrows, vengeance, piety etc. But if you know what you're doing you will win alot. And you NEED to know what you're doing to succeed as a high level pure. That's part of the thrill of being pure for me, you need to constantly be on top of your game, whereas with defence you can rely on your defence taking some of the hits.



That's why there is a vast amount of low levelled new-pures and a rare amount of maxed pures. Because once the new-pures realise they won't be able to rain down fire and destruction upon their opponents with ease as a pure they end up getting defence. On the average crowded world you'll find more new-pures at rock crabs than the number of maxed 1 defence pures in the game. People will watch videos of their favourite maxed pures or see them in action and think that all they need to do to own like that is get similiar stats.
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Just ignore them... Although my stats are equal across all 3 of the melee combat skills, I pride myself on my defense. It allows you to tank anything instead of wasting all of your food. It's also less expendable than prayer, which you waste and have to find a pot or altar. Instead, you can just sit there as your opponent can barely hit you. 8-)
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